Optimized Equine Podcast

Tamara Lee Barrett
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Welcome to the Optimized Equine Podcast with Tamara Lee Barrett. Join me and my guests, as we discuss horsemanship, equine performance optimization, and explore the evolution of self through the wisdom that horses offer us.

  1. MAR 4

    OE Mini: When Athleticism is tied to Anxiety

    In this Optimized Equine Mini, we're dropping you into a piece from a real lesson with an off-the-track Thoroughbred who has spent significant time with his dedicated owner working through the anxiety and high-alert state that came with his past.The hard work paid off — he found relaxation. But that success brought a new and unexpected hurdle. For horses who associate physical effort with stress, fear, and survival, moving from a calm state back into athleticism isn't as simple as asking for more. The body and mind have to be taught, step by step, how to engage and work without triggering that deeply wired fight-or-flight response.In this clip, Tamara breaks down why this happens, what it looks like, and how to begin building that bridge between relaxation and athletic effort. Don't Forget To Follow, Subscribe, and Rate Optimized Equine Podcast! Stay Connected at TamaraLeeBarrett.com

    5 min

  2. MAR 2

    OEP 36: Is Your Horse Surviving or Thriving? with Stephanie Carter, NTP

    In this episode, Tamara sits down with Stephanie Carter, founder of Indigo Ancestral Health and a veterinary technician with over 23 years of clinical experience. Stephanie shares how her time working in conventional veterinary medicine — across small animal, large animal, and mixed practices — ultimately led her away from the traditional model and toward equine functional nutrition, an approach centered on species-appropriate, nutrient-dense, real foods and the bio-individuality of every horse. Stephanie breaks down what sets functional nutrition apart from conventional equine nutrition, why population-level guidelines like the NRC fall short for individual horses, and how quality and sourcing of feed ingredients plays a bigger role in long-term health than most people realize. She also explains why she uses hair tissue mineral analysis and microbiome testing alongside traditional bloodwork to get a fuller picture of what's really going on with a horse — and why bloodwork alone can miss a lot. The conversation gets into some deeper territory too, including how chronic stress and emotional trauma show up as physical health problems in horses, the connection between the gut microbiome and whole-body health, and Stephanie's perspective on conditions like Cushing's and insulin resistance as layered, systemic issues rather than single problems to be managed with medication alone. Tamara and Stephanie also touch on the importance of the owner's role in their horse's health, the value of collaboration between functional and conventional practitioners, and why prevention will always beat crisis management. Stephanie also shares details on her two books — Managing Muscle Mayhem and her newest release, Equine Functional Nutrition: Understanding Root Cause to Restore Vitality. You can follow Indigo Ancestral Health on Facebook, Instagram or visit stephaniecarterntp.com to learn more about her work. Don't Forget To Follow, Subscribe, and Rate Optimized Equine Podcast! Stay Connected at TamaraLeeBarrett.com Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Equine Functional Nutrition 06:43 Understanding Osteopathic Veterinary Medicine 11:20 The Importance of Individualized Nutrition 16:10 The Role of Forage in Equine Diets 26:12 Understanding Trauma and the Microbiome in Horses 36:01 The Role of Emotional Well-being in Horse Care 41:36 Exploring Stephanie’s New Book on Equine Health and Vitality 46:30 Wishes for Horses and Humanity

    49 min

  3. FEB 16

    OEP 35: Horsemanship from Nature with Rachel Windchaser

    In this episode, Rachel Windchaser shares her journey from growing up with horses in England to creating a Spanish Mustang preserve in Spain. As a child who struggled with communication, Rachel found her voice with horses—they gave her the space to pause, to speak, and to simply be herself.Rachel's path led her to Spain, where she felt immediately at home. Here her work with Spanish Mustangs transformed her understanding of horses entirely. These undiluted horses taught her that true horsemanship begins with understanding nature: both the horse's nature and our own.In this conversation, we explore how Rachel's father taught her that it all starts with asking the right questions at the right time, and why understanding the nature of the horse changes everything about how we interact with them. Rachel explains the difference between relationship and partnership with horses and why you can't have one without the other. We discuss why boundaries aren't the enemy of ethical horsemanship but are actually essential for clarity and safety, and how bringing your authentic self to your horse, emotions and all, creates better connection than leaving everything "at the gate."Rachel emphasizes the importance of slowing down enough to truly see your horse, not just look at them, and why horses thrive on clarity and become confused and frustrated without it. We also dive into how the pressure of competing voices in the horse world creates more confusion than clarity for horse owners trying to do their best. Rachel shares about her book, "The Principles of Rewilding: Horsemanship from Nature," and what inspired her to write it despite her own struggles with communication.Rachel offers a perspective that bridges the gap between different horsemanship camps, reminding us that no single method works for every horse in every moment. Instead, understanding the individual horse in front of you, and yourself, is the foundation for everything else. Whether you're a high-level competitor or someone who simply wants to connect more deeply with your horse, this episode will inspire you to step outside the noise and return to what matters most: authentic communication and mutual understanding.You can connect with Rachel Windchaser at rewild.windchaserranch.com, on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube. Her book "The Principles of Rewilding: Horsemanship from Nature" is available on Amazon and Lulu in both English and Spanish.Don't Forget To Follow, Subscribe, and Rate Optimized Equine Podcast! Follow Our Socials and Stay Connected at TamaraLeeBarrett.com

    1h 28m

  4. JAN 14

    OEP 34: Nick Fornwalt on Training, Hoofcare and finding Partnership in Horsemanship

    In this compelling conversation, Nick Fornwalt shares his transformation from traditional Western trainer and farrier apprentice to barefoot hoof care provider and partnership-based horseman. Nick opens up about his early days in the industry, when horses were viewed as machines to be programmed and the training methods that went along with it.Nick shares about a pivotal moment with his horse, and a profound realization about communication, fairness, and humility that sparked a journey that would change his life.Nick doesn't shy away from the controversial topics. He makes a strong case that barefoot is objectively better for horses, but he also brings nuance to the conversation, acknowledging that shoes can be valuable tools when approached honestly, rather than as permanent solutions we avoid questioning.The conversation explores the false dichotomy between "push-button horses" and partnership-based training, the uncomfortable truth about what it actually takes to commit to barefoot transitions, and why Nick believes the industry often prioritizes human convenience over horse welfare. He shares how horses have taught him lessons about ego, patience, and presence that have made him a better husband and father.Throughout the episode, Nick emphasizes that real horsemanship isn't about technical perfection—it's about being present enough to have genuine conversations with horses, even when those conversations reveal uncomfortable truths about ourselves.ABOUT NICK FORNWALTNick Fornwalt is a hoof care provider and horse trainer based in Payson, Arizona. His journey with horses began in earnest during college, though horses weren't a major part of his childhood. After working in the film and television industry, Nick found himself drawn back to a more rural, agricultural lifestyle through horses.When COVID shut down the entertainment industry, Nick transitioned full-time into hoof care and training. What started as a practical need to trim his own horses evolved into a professional practice after apprenticing with traditional farriers and later studying barefoot approaches with specialists like David Landreville.Nick's training philosophy has been deeply influenced by his work with mentor and training partner Tessa Nicolet of Cohesive Horsemanship, whose French classical-based approach and emphasis on lightness, communication, and partnership marked a significant departure from his earlier methods. Today, Nick focuses on developing horses as curious, willing partners rather than push-button machines, and advocates for barefoot hoof care whenever possible while maintaining honest, nuanced conversations about when and why shoes might be needed.He approaches both hoof care and training with an emphasis on making it harder for the human and easier for the horse, prioritizing sustainability, welfare, and genuine partnership over convenience and quick results.Contact:Website: www.fornwaltlivestock.comFollow, Subscribe, and Rate the Optimized Equine Podcast! Follow Our Socials and Stay Connected at TamaraLeeBarrett.comChapters00:00 Nick's Journey with Horses07:15 Transitioning to a Professional Role18:05 Corner Turning Moments in Training18:18 Realizations and Shifts in Perspective21:45 Turning Points in Horse Care26:02 The Culture of Hoof Care30:17 Understanding Barefoot vs. Shoeing36:30 The Band-Aid Effect of Shoes44:31 Interpreting Horse Behavior44:35 Understanding Horse Communication49:40 The Complexity of Training Horses55:36 Personal Development Through Horsemanship01:00:33 Wishes and Reflections on Horsemanship

    1h 3m

  5. JAN 7

    OEP 33: Student of the Horse with Ariana Sakaris

    In this episode of the Optimized Equine Podcast, I sit down with Ariana Sakaris to explore what it truly means to work in partnership with horses. Ariana shares her unique approach to blending groundwork, liberty work, and dressage—always with the horse's perspective at the center of every decision. We discuss the art of information gathering and how to read what your horse is telling you through body language, energy, and subtle cues that often go unnoticed in routine care. Ariana challenges the idea that "liberty" has one definition, explaining why sometimes the kindest thing you can do is put the halter back on to help a horse find clarity rather than letting them stay lost and confused. Ariana opens up about her journey with her Mustang, Wildheart—from wild in Nevada to competing in dressage shows and International Liberty competitions. She shares the internal battle of showing up in competitive environments when your horse doesn't fit the mold, and how she found the courage to do it anyway, on her own terms. We also dive into the concept of horsemanship as an evolving practice of self-awareness, adaptability, and learning to speak the horse's language. Ariana emphasizes that true partnership isn't about perfection—it's about meeting each horse where they are, respecting their "no" while helping them work through challenges, and always prioritizing their mental, emotional, and physical wellbeing. Whether you're interested in liberty work, dressage, or simply want to deepen your connection with your horse, this conversation offers practical wisdom and inspiration that transcends discipline. Key Topics Discussed: Blending groundwork, liberty work, and dressage in daily training Reading your horse's mental and physical state through observation The importance of establishing baseline information about your horse When to use tools like halters and lead ropes versus working at liberty Navigating fear and building confidence—for both horse and human Showing with non-traditional horses and doing it your way Managing horses with health challenges like EPM, PSSM1, and allergies Defining horsemanship as self-awareness and adaptability About Our Guest: Ariana Sakaris is known for her calm, patient, and deeply empathetic approach with both horses and humans. Her teaching blends clarity with compassion, helping others discover a kinder way of understanding, communicating, and working with their horses. Ariana's journey began at age five in Greece, where she first became fascinated by the language between horses and people. After returning to the U.S., she spent over eight years studying under a former Russian Olympic Dressage Coach and Master of Sport, completing more than 400 hours of certified training. However, as her technical skills grew, she realized something was missing—genuine, two-way connection. This revelation sparked a transformative journey across the U.S. and France, studying with leading professionals in Grand Prix Dressage, Classical Dressage, Liberty, and Horsemanship. Today, Ariana is a United States Dressage Federation Silver Medalist, four-time International Liberty Horse Association Champion, National Dressage Pony Cup Mustang Champion, USDF Mustang Breed Award Champion, Mustang Makeover Reserve Champion, Midwest Horse Fair Star Search Reserve Champion, and award-winning filmmaker for her documentary Wild Heart.  Based in Paris, Kentucky, Ariana offers clinics, demonstrations, instruction, and training focused on Liberty Work, Dressage, Groundwork, and Relationship-Based Problem Solving.  Connect with Ariana: Website: https://www.arianasakaris.com/ Facebook: Ariana Sakaris Equestrian Development Please take a moment to Share, Follow, Subscribe, and Rate the Optimized Equine Podcast! Follow Our Socials and Stay Connected at TamaraLeeBarrett.com

    1h 20m

  6. 12/12/2025

    OEP 32: The Great Debate About The Horse's Mouth with Leslie Desmond

    In this episode, Leslie Desmond discusses her upcoming webinar series "The Great Debate About the Horse's Mouth," running from December 17th through March 18th, 2026. This free 14-hour educational event brings together a panel of nominated specialists including veterinarians, certified dentists, lay practitioners, and other equine specialists from around the world. With over 450 auditors registered from 30+ countries, the series aims to address the polarizing and often confusing world of equine dentistry. Leslie shares her personal journey into equine dentistry that led her to attend dental school at age 68. She discusses the wide spectrum of approaches in the field, different philosophies, and the various certification standards across states. The conversation explores why this topic matters for all horse owners. Leslie emphasizes the importance of understanding the qualifications of anyone working in your horse's mouth and the profound impact dental work has on the whole horse. Leslie also reflects on her extensive horsemanship background, her formative lessons from WWI cavalry veteran Ivan Taylor, her time studying with Tom Dorrance, Ray Hunt, and Buck Brannaman, and how Bill Dorrance's wisdom—"if you want to help the horses, you gotta help the people on the other end of the rope"—has shaped her lifelong commitment to helping horses by helping the people who care for them. A complete and current list of nominated panelists is available on the Leslie Desmond Horse Network, where you can also sign up for this FREE educational event. In this episode, Leslie tells us about a handful of the panelists that we will be hearing from during the course of the debates: Dr. Justin Christensen, Dr. Mark DePaolo, Marilyn Hobbs, Spencer LaFlure, Karina Lewis, Larry Moriarity, Wayne Needham, Maureen Rogers, Dr. Geoff Tucker, Dr. Trish Kallenbach, and Lance Rubin.  Click HERE to sign up for The Great Debate!  About Leslie Desmond: Leslie has been immersed in the horse world since her father first put her on a pony in 1958 and the rest is history. Over the decades, she has worked with nearly every breed and taught across multiple continents. Many of you may know Leslie from her work as a student and colleague of Buck Brannaman, Ray Hunt, and Bill Dorrance, with whom she co-authored True Horsemanship Through Feel. Her written work has been published extensively in the States and overseas with publications and articles translated into seven languages. Her audio book, Horse Handling and Riding Through Feel, represents what she considers some of her most important contributions to helping horses and their people. You can learn more about Leslie Desmond at https://lesliedesmond.horse and https://www.feelofahorse.com or contact her at lesliedesmondhorsenews@gmail.com Don't Forget To Follow, Subscribe, Rate The Show, and Follow Our Socials to Stay Connected! TamaraLeeBarrett.com Chapters [00:00] Introduction to Leslie and The Great Debate [02:05] Webinar Format & Structure [05:01] Two Types of Horse People [06:01] Why This Matters: Leslie's Wake-Up Call [08:43] The “Head Shaking Horse” [09:16] Personal Loss & Commitment [10:39] Even Experts Can Be Fooled [11:18] Turning Point: A Broken Arm Changes Everything [12:04] The Debate Rules & Ready Participants [13:03] The Complex Landscape of Credentials [15:27] The Wide Spectrum of Practitioners [16:54] Would You See a GP for a Toothache? [18:15] The Cumulative Effect [19:34] Leslie's Background: Early Years [21:51] Ivan's Lessons: Kindness & Non-Judgment [24:42] A Life Dedicated to Horses [25:37] Bill Dorrance's Wisdom [26:53] The Childhood Dream Becomes a Business [27:26] Learning from Buck, Ray, and Tom [30:12] Introducing the Panelists [42:33] Why Invest in Deep Knowledge? [49:33] Final Thoughts & How to Participate

    50 min

  7. 11/18/2025

    OEP 31: Answering Gaited Horse Training Questions with Ivy Starnes (Part Two)

    In this episode, host Tamara Lee Barrett welcomes back Ivy Starnes of Ivy's Glide Gait for a comprehensive Q&A session diving deep into your gaited horse training questions. From fixing trotty horses to understanding the nuances between the gaits, Ivy shares her expertise on achieving smooth, comfortable gaits through proper communication, training techniques, and equipment choices. This conversation addresses the most common challenges gaited horse owners face and provides practical solutions grounded in understanding each horse's individual needs and movement patterns. What You'll Learn: How to approach fixing a trotty horse—from the saddle versus the ground The role breeding practices play in creating pacey horses in certain breeds Why saddle racks and foxtrots are distinct gaits requiring different approaches How proper rein contact and communication improve performance on a loose rein The significant impact hoof care and shoeing practices have on gait quality When and how to use different bits, including shanked bits, for training success How to help your vet identify lameness in gaited horses and address underlying gait issues Takeaways: Working from the saddle is often more effective than groundwork for fixing trotty gaits Achieving one gait (like a saddle rack) doesn't automatically lead to another (like a foxtrot) Understanding your horse's movement is crucial for their health, longevity, and your comfort Training techniques must be adapted to each individual horse's needs and responses Teaching horses to understand rein contact creates better performance and safety overall The balance between telescoping forward and rocking back affects gait quality Consistency in training and proper feedback are essential for success Hoof care issues can significantly impact a horse's ability to gait correctly Whether you're struggling with a pacey horse, trying to understand contact and softness, or navigating equipment choices, this episode provides the guidance you need. Ivy's thoughtful, individualized approach demonstrates that effective gaited horse training comes from understanding biomechanics, clear communication, and meeting each horse where they are. Guest Bio: Ivy Starnes specializes in gaited horse training through her business Ivy's Glide Gait. Based in Fort Worth, Texas, she travels nationwide conducting three-day clinics focused on achieving smooth, relaxed gaits. Her extensive online content and training videos demonstrate that gaited horses can naturally gait on a loose rein in a relaxed frame, challenging traditional training methods in the gaited horse community. You can find her on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and www.ivyshorses.com Don't Forget To Follow, Subscribe, Rate The Show, and Follow Our Socials! TamaraLeeBarrett.com Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Gaited Horses 02:03 Understanding Trotty Horses 04:55 Fixing the Trotty Gait 07:23 The Role of Breeding in Gait 10:01 Saddle Rack vs. Foxtrot 12:55 Finding the Right Gait 15:25 The Impact of Weight on Gait 17:46 Training Techniques for Gaited Horses 23:44 Training the Ear for Gait Recognition 24:34 Understanding Gait Differences in Horses 26:33 Achieving a Balanced Gait 29:43 The Importance of Feedback in Riding 30:10 Bitless Riding: Pros and Cons 32:36 Choosing the Right Bit for Your Horse 36:00 Using Shanked Bits for Control 43:54 Contact and Softness in Riding 52:35 Navigating Challenges in Horse Training 53:21 The Importance of Consistency in Training 54:38 Understanding Contact and Its Impact 56:56 Teaching the Rock Back Technique 01:00:33 The Balance of Telescoping and Rocking Back 01:04:37 Identifying Lameness in Gaited Horses 01:06:49 Addressing Hoof Care and Gait Issues

    1h 12m

  8. 10/28/2025

    OEP 30: Navigating Equestrian Sport in the US with Nandi Kegode (Part Two)

    In part two of this conversation, Nandi Kegode shares her experiences navigating the American equestrian industry as an aspiring international athlete without major financial backing. She discusses the challenges of working through Florida and other competitive circuits, the mentors who supported her journey, and the toxic cultural dynamics she encountered in barn environments. Nandi opens up about her partnership with two other women of color who co-own her mare Idana, and their ambitious vision to create pathways for Kenyan athletes to reach top sport. The conversation explores the realities of "quirky" horses, the importance of two-way communication in training, and Nandi's vision for authentic cultural exchange through equestrian tourism in Africa. The equestrian sport is not designed to allow aspiring athletes without substantial financial backing to progress through the levels Marketing may celebrate diversity, but the industry often lacks understanding of true moral and ethical diversity Cultural differences in respect, work ethic, and interpersonal boundaries create significant challenges when navigating different barn environments Finding good mentors who prioritize horse welfare and human wellbeing is rare but essential for surviving the industry The "quirky horse" label is often an excuse for poor training, handling, or unaddressed pain rather than inherent personality True diversity in equestrianism includes cultural exchange and learning from different approaches to horsemanship worldwide Horses labeled as difficult often respond completely differently when treated with respect and proper communication You cannot terrify the rider and expect the horse to have a good experience—both must be supported Not every rider can ride every horse, and admitting that is a sign of good horsemanship Cultural exchange through equestrian tourism can provide quality education and competition experience at accessible prices You can follow Nandi Kegode on Facebook or Instagram @african.horse.woman_official and @hisia_intel Don't Forget To Follow, Subscribe, Rate The Show, and Follow Our Socials! ⁠  Visit TamaraLeeBarrett.com Chapters [00:00] Introduction to Part 2 [00:32] Coming to America [02:08] The Reality of Diversity in Sport [05:30] Cultural Clashes in Barn Environments [08:45] Navigating Toxicity and Racism [12:36] Geographic and Economic Barriers [13:27] Learning What Not to Do [14:14] Jenni McAllister: A Role Model [16:25] McKrell and Christian: Critical Mentors [21:23] The Idana Partnership [26:58] The Plan for Idana [30:18] Equestrian Tourism Vision [32:06] The True Meaning of Diversity [36:08] How Horses Communicate [40:49] Feeling Riders Aren't Born, They're Made [42:40] The "Quirky Horse" Excuse [50:18] Becoming What We Tell Them [52:52] One-Way vs Two-Way Dialogue [54:57] When Livelihood Depends on Sales [56:06] Education in Body Language and Biomechanics [57:23] Three Fairy Godmother Wishes [58:52] The Sad Over-Correction [1:00:00] How to Follow Nandi

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Welcome to the Optimized Equine Podcast with Tamara Lee Barrett. Join me and my guests, as we discuss horsemanship, equine performance optimization, and explore the evolution of self through the wisdom that horses offer us.

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  • Creator
    Tamara Lee Barrett
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    38
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Tamara Lee Barrett
  • Show Website
    Optimized Equine Podcast

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