OrgDev with Distinction

Dani Bacon and Garin Rouch
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The Org Dev podcast is all about Organisational Development, a practice that has the power to transform organisations, shape cultures, and empower individuals. Yet, it's often shrouded in mystery and misunderstood. But fear not, because on this podcast, we pull back the curtain to reveal the inner workings of Organisation Development. We demystify the concepts, unravel the strategies, and delve into the real-life experiences of professionals who are driving real and significant change and innovation within organisations.

  1. 1D AGO

    Leading Transformation and Change with Sophy Pern Ammalo - OrgDev Episode 82

    We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What really derails a change project – the plan, or the relationships behind it? Our guest today, Sophy Pern, has spent her career helping leaders and teams untangle the relational dynamics that quietly shape whether strategy and change succeed or stall. An international consultant, facilitator and executive coach, she works with executive leaders on strategy engagement, organisation design, operating models, culture change and team development. Sophy is known for bringing depth, clarity and humanity to complex organisational challenges, and for building OD and Design capability in organisations and professional communities across Europe. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get: ■ Key insights from the episode ■ A reflection prompt ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

    1 hr

  2. OCT 31

    Master the Art and Science of Organisation Design and Change with Jaimini Lakhani - OrgDev Episode 81

    We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How do you make sure your organisation’s design is truly fit for purpose – not just neat on paper, but aligned to the strategy your future depends on? And how do you work with senior leaders in a way that builds real trust – so you can understand how value is created in their world, and the tough trade-offs that come with redesigning it? Today we’re joined by Jaimini Lakhani – founder of Lumiere Consulting and a leading expert in organisation design and strategy. Jaimini has helped some of the world’s most recognisable organisations navigate complex moments of change, connecting strategy, structure and people in ways that deliver real impact. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get: ■ Key insights from the episode ■ A reflection prompt ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

    1h 3m

  3. OCT 24

    The Power of Presence - Inner work of the OD Practitioner with Dr Frances Baldwin - OrgDev Episode 80

    We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What separates good OD practice from great OD practice – skill, strategy, or self-awareness? You can have the tools. The models. The frameworks. But what really shapes your impact as an OD practitioner? According to Dr Frances Baldwin, it’s not what you do – it’s who you are. Frances has been shaping the field of Organisation Development for more than five decades. Yet when you ask her what truly makes a difference in this work, she doesn’t start with methods or models. She talks about presence. About congruence. About the quality of the inner condition we bring to our practice. After fifty years of working across industries and continents, Frances is clear: it’s your presence, purpose and self-awareness that enable trust, unlock change and create real impact. In this episode, she brings depth, wisdom and a lifetime of embodied OD practice to the conversation – reminding us that development always begins with who we are. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get: ■ Key insights from the episode ■ A reflection prompt ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

    1h 9m

  4. SEP 12

    How to Tackle Stubborn Business Problems with Phil Lewis - OrgDev Episode 79

    We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How to Solve Complex Business Problems? Organisations are not machines – and they certainly don’t run on machine logic. Solving the toughest business problems isn’t about pulling levers or rewriting process charts. It’s about people: how they work together, how they make sense of their world, and how they feel. But people don’t operate in neat, predictable ways. We delete, distort, and generalise the reality around us – which makes organisational life messy, complex, and often resistant to simple solutions. In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we’re joined by Phil Lewis, a consultant, strategist and thinker based in Scotland, who specialises in helping organisations tackle their most stubborn challenges. 💼Phil Lewis Phil's website to access his services and writing: philhq.com Join Phil's insightful Workforces newsletter: https://philhq.us17.list-manage.com/s... Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get: ■ Key insights from the episode ■ A reflection prompt ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

    50 min

  5. SEP 5

    Imposter Phenomenon with Dr Kate Atkin - OrgDev Episode 79

    We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Have you ever worried you’ll be “found out” or dismissed your own successes as luck? You’re not alone. In this episode, we’re joined by Dr Kate Atkin, author of The Imposter Phenomenon: Why You Feel Like a Fraud and What to Do About It.  Kate brings both personal experience and rigorous research to the conversation, busting myths (it’s phenomenon, not syndrome) and sharing practical strategies for navigating self-doubt. We explore how imposter feelings show up in organisations, why the right kind of feedback matters, and how psychological courage helps us update the story we tell ourselves. It’s an honest and hopeful conversation that we're pretty sure will resonate with many leaders and practitioners Join Kate's Book Launch for free: There are three options, London on 3rd September, Cambridge on 28th October and online on 6th November. The details and booking are available through Eventbrite using this link: https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/the-imp...  Please also feel free to share this with others if you wish. Buy Kate's book: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Imposter-Phe... Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get: ■ Key insights from the episode ■ A reflection prompt ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

    54 min

  6. AUG 22

    Neurodiversity in the Workplace with Melanie Francis - OrgDev Episode 77

    We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we’re joined by Mel Francis, Director of Neurodiversity at Work at Do-IT Solutions, to explore how organisations can move beyond simply accommodating difference to designing workplaces where all kinds of brains can thrive. Mel shares practical strategies for embedding neuroinclusive thinking across the employee lifecycle – from recruitment and onboarding to performance, progression, and everyday management. Drawing on her HR expertise and lived experience as a parent of a neurodivergent son, she challenges outdated stereotypes, highlights the risks of unintentionally excluding talent, and offers simple, low-cost changes that benefit everyone. This is an essential listen for anyone looking to create a truly inclusive culture that values neurodiversity as a strength.  Follow Melanie's work at www.doitprofiler.com and get in contact via info@doitprofiler.com Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get: ■ Key insights from the episode ■ A reflection prompt ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

    1h 2m

  7. AUG 14

    Disruption Change and Transformation with Dr Andrew Day - OrgDev Episode 76

    We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Change and Transformation. What if the way most organisations approach transformation is fundamentally flawed? In this episode, Dr. Andrew Day turns the usual change management playbook on its head. Drawing on decades of work with leaders across sectors and continents, he explores why transformation isn’t something you can manage from the top – and why the real work is social, emotional, and far messier than any plan on paper. We dig into what really happens to people during change, why standard tools often miss the point, and how leaders can work with – rather than against – the human side of transformation. Buy Andrew's brilliant book here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Disruption-C... Dr. Andrew Day has over 30 years’ experience working with leaders across the globe to develop and improve how organisations function. He believes that lasting, meaningful change happens only when those affected are actively involved in co-creating new working practices and structures. His work has taken him around the world with clients in the private, public and third sectors, including Ford Motor Company, GSK, BP, Jazz Pharmaceuticals, the UK Civil Service, Cancer Research UK, the NHS and many more. A former internal consultant at Ford Motor Company and senior member of faculty at Ashridge Business School, Andrew combines first-hand insight into the realities of organisational life with a deep grounding in the research and theory of organisational development and transformation. He specialises in team facilitation, executive coaching, systemic consulting and participative organisation design, and is the author of Disruption, Change & Transformation in Organisations, which explores the impact and consequences of disruptive change – and how people can navigate it effectively. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get: ■ Key insights from the episode ■ A reflection prompt ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

    1h 1m

  8. JUL 24

    Become a Next Generation HR Leader with Dave Ulrich and TV Rao - OrgDev Episode 75

    We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What if the future of HR isn’t about getting a seat at the table - but redesigning the table altogether? In a world shaped by paradox, uncertainty and stakeholder pressure, the next generation of HR leaders must be architects of value—not just participants in strategy. It’s about creating human capability that drives stakeholder value—for employees, customers, communities, investors and boards.  For this episode, we're joined from the US  by the Father of modern HR, Dave Ulrich and the Father of HRD in India, TV Rao. They’re both architects of the Global HR Leadership Experience (GHRLE), a new 100 day development program aimed at preparing the next generation of HR leaders who can deliver value for multiple stakeholders across global contexts. Wish you had a handy recap of the episode? So did we. That’s why each week in our Next Step to Better newsletter, we’re sharing From Pod to Practice – a 2-page visual summary of each episode designed to help you take the learning from the podcast and into your work. You’ll get: ■ Key insights from the episode ■ A reflection prompt ■ A suggested action Sign up now to get From Pod to Practice delivered to your inbox each week: https://distinction.live/keep-in-touch/ About Us We’re Dani and Garin – Organisation Development (OD) practitioners who help leaders and people professionals tackle the messiness of organisational life. We focus on building leadership capability, strengthening team effectiveness, and designing practical, systemic development programmes that help you deliver on your team and organisational goals. We also offer coaching to support individual growth and change. Find out more at www.distinction.live We'd love to connect with you on Linked In: linkedin.com/in/danibacon478 https://www.linkedin.com/in/garinrouch

    46 min
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The Org Dev podcast is all about Organisational Development, a practice that has the power to transform organisations, shape cultures, and empower individuals. Yet, it's often shrouded in mystery and misunderstood. But fear not, because on this podcast, we pull back the curtain to reveal the inner workings of Organisation Development. We demystify the concepts, unravel the strategies, and delve into the real-life experiences of professionals who are driving real and significant change and innovation within organisations.

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  • Creator
    Dani Bacon and Garin Rouch
  • Years Active
    2021 - 2025
  • Episodes
    92
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2025 OrgDev with Distinction
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