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Follow our journey as we build and launch two startups. Hosted by Matt Wensing, founder of Summit, and Peter Suhm, founder of Reform.

Out of Beta Matt Wensing & Peter Suhm

    • Business
    • 4.4 • 13 Ratings

Follow our journey as we build and launch two startups. Hosted by Matt Wensing, founder of Summit, and Peter Suhm, founder of Reform.

    Back again

    Back again

    Matt is back from France and Peter is back from Scotland. They are both eager to get back to work. Reform has soft-launched their ConvertKit integration and are planning to announce it very soon. Summit is getting closer to general admission where users will be able to launch public-facing apps and calculators on top of their Summit models.

    • 37 min
    Q&A with Matt & Peter pt. 2

    Q&A with Matt & Peter pt. 2

    Before heading off on vacation, Matt and Peter recorded a marathon Q/A session answering all the questions they got from the listeners on Twitter.

    • 39 min
    Q&A with Matt & Peter pt. 1

    Q&A with Matt & Peter pt. 1

    Before heading off on vacation, Matt and Peter recorded a marathon Q/A session answering all the questions they got from the listeners on Twitter.

    • 45 min
    Product Hunt And Product Velocity

    Product Hunt And Product Velocity

    Peter launched Reform Free on Product Hunt and became the number two product of the day. Matt is working through how all the latest Summit updates have impacted the positioning of the product.

    • 35 min
    Bootstrapper questions with Feature Upvote

    Bootstrapper questions with Feature Upvote

    This is a special episode with our sponsor this month, Feature Upvote. In this episode, Matt and Peter are tackling some questions and challenges that Steve, the founder of Feature Upvote, are facing in his bootstrapped business.

    • 23 min
    Optimism

    Optimism

    Peter is optimistic about the early results of his SEO efforts and Reform's free plan, which has started to contribute a meaningful amount of traffic to Reform's website. Matt has had a busy period on the personal front, but the Summit team has been making some solid progress on the product while Matt has been occupied with graduation ceremonies, family visits etc.

    • 39 min

Customer Reviews

4.4 out of 5
13 Ratings

13 Ratings

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Incredible ride

Go back to episode 1 and start from there. I listened to one random episode, realized I needed the whole story, and am now up to the mid 60’s. And it’s worth it.

It’s fascinating watching these two lovable doofs build out a pair of very cool but not necessarily trendy companies. Their ups and downs are both instructive and weirdly compelling. This isn’t a polished big-budget affair, but more like a low-key slice-of-life drama. Imagine the vibe of a Scandinavian buddy comedy—understated but sincere.

Beyond the human interest side, if you have any interest in starting a company, it’s worth a listen. This isn’t the story that founders tell after the fact. This is the raw process. They struggle, they make brilliant choices, they make choices that will leave you wanting to scream at them. But they both seem like good people which leaves you rooting for them the whole way.

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Listening non-stop for value

So, I am way too far behind in listening to my podcasts. For some podcasts, I’ve skipped episodes. For Pete and Matt, I am listening carefully to each episode. It’s Feb 2021, but I’m still at Dec 2019 in episodes, and there’s so much value in each episode that now I’ve decided I will ONLY listen to Out of Beta - at least until I catch up. I’m making business decisions based on what I hear in the podcast. Great stuff!

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