Out of Beta Matt Wensing & Peter Suhm

Go back to episode 1 and start from there. I listened to one random episode, realized I needed the whole story, and am now up to the mid 60’s. And it’s worth it.

It’s fascinating watching these two lovable doofs build out a pair of very cool but not necessarily trendy companies. Their ups and downs are both instructive and weirdly compelling. This isn’t a polished big-budget affair, but more like a low-key slice-of-life drama. Imagine the vibe of a Scandinavian buddy comedy—understated but sincere.

Beyond the human interest side, if you have any interest in starting a company, it’s worth a listen. This isn’t the story that founders tell after the fact. This is the raw process. They struggle, they make brilliant choices, they make choices that will leave you wanting to scream at them. But they both seem like good people which leaves you rooting for them the whole way.

So, I am way too far behind in listening to my podcasts. For some podcasts, I’ve skipped episodes. For Pete and Matt, I am listening carefully to each episode. It’s Feb 2021, but I’m still at Dec 2019 in episodes, and there’s so much value in each episode that now I’ve decided I will ONLY listen to Out of Beta - at least until I catch up. I’m making business decisions based on what I hear in the podcast. Great stuff!