Pairing Gone Wrong

Chelsee & Matios
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Pairing Gone Wrong is two BCBAs discussing ABA hot topics through research, lived clinical experience, and a whole lot of sarcasm. This is not clinical advice, not supervision, and not a treatment plan. It’s two friends having real conversations about a complicated field. Remember don’t take us seriously.

Episodes

  1. 6D AGO

    Episode 4 BT to CEO Pipeline. What's missing?

    In this episode of Pairing Gone Wrong, we’re unpacking the classic ABA glow-up: BT today, supervisor tomorrow, BCBA by Friday, CEO by next fiscal quarter. ABA loves to push passionate people into leadership and ownership, but somehow forgets to teach them how to actually lead, manage conflict, build systems, understand business, supervise ethically, or run an organization without surviving purely on caffeine, crisis, and vibes. We’re talking about how being great with clients does not automatically mean you’re ready to lead a team or open a company, and why the field needs to stop confusing clinical talent with leadership readiness. Growth is great. Unsupported promotions disguised as “opportunities”? Pairing gone wrong. Tell us your thoughts!

    1h 18m

  2. APR 9

    Episode 3 Are YOU weaponizing Ethics?

    This week on Pairing Gone Wrong, we’re talking about weaponizing ethics and the messy reality of people using the Code to intimidate, control, or “win” instead of protect. We break down the difference between actual ethical violations and the workplace drama people love to dress up as one. If you’ve ever heard “that’s unethical” and thought, or maybe you’re just mad, this one’s for you.  Tell us your thoughts!

    1h 14m
  3. Episode 2 Actively Disengaged? It's your fault

    MAR 18

    Episode 2 Actively Disengaged? It's your fault

    This week on Pairing Gone Wrong, we’re talking about actively disengaged employees and the leadership delusion that somehow staff just woke up one day and chose chaos. Spoiler: disengagement usually has receipts. We’re getting into how BCBA leaders contribute to burnout, resentment, and low morale, and why accountability cannot just be for the team when BCBAs helped build the culture in the first place.  Tell us your thoughts!

    1h 1m
  4. Episode 1 Private Equity ABA Villain or Expanding care?

    MAR 4

    Episode 1 Private Equity ABA Villain or Expanding care?

    In this episode, we will be discussing private equity and who the real villain is. Is it them? Is it Us? Or are we all just trying to make an impact and do better? *Remember, don't take us seriously, we are just here to stir the pot* Tell us your thoughts!

    1h 10m
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Pairing Gone Wrong is two BCBAs discussing ABA hot topics through research, lived clinical experience, and a whole lot of sarcasm. This is not clinical advice, not supervision, and not a treatment plan. It’s two friends having real conversations about a complicated field. Remember don’t take us seriously.

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  • Creator
    Chelsee & Matios
  • Years Active
    2K
  • Episodes
    4
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Pairing Gone Wrong
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