Morse Code Podcast with Korby Lenker

Deep talks and sharp performances with the best musicians and writers working today.

Deep talks, sharp performances and empowering revelations from musicians and writers, live from East Nashville. Unpretentiously hosted by Korbykorby korby.substack.com

  1. Sloe Jack: This Sh*t Talking Young Aussie Just Broke 500K Followers on Instagram | MCP #303

    9 OCT

    Sloe Jack: This Sh*t Talking Young Aussie Just Broke 500K Followers on Instagram | MCP #303

    This conversation, like Sloe Jack himself, is going to offend some of you. In a little over 6 months the 23 year-old Australian-born, Nashville-based artist has amassed a huge following on Social Media, mostly for his outspoken takes on all the hot button social issues. Under the rubric of, as he describes it, “Common Sense”, Jack has thrown himself against the liberal monolith that is the contemporary music business with the fury, hilarity, and dare I say charm, of a first rate provocateur. Before you listen to this podcast, go to his instagram and poke around for a second. One of two things will happen: you’ll either dismiss him as a foul-mouthed phobe and unfollow me for platforming him, or maybe you’ll see what I think he actually is — a modern avatar of what used to be called Rocknroll spirit, spokesperson and hero to a generation of kids who grew up in a decade where being white and male was irredeemably problematic. We taped this interview in mid-August, when his follower count had just crossed over 300K on instagram. Seven weeks later he’s well over half a million. I point this out to indicate the impact his message is having on culture — especially young men. He’s worth your attention — at the very least — because he has theirs. Okay, If I might put a little of myself out here… another reason I reached out to Jack is because I saw him doing something courageous. Speaking out against what he thinks is wrong or stupid, and accepting the knocks that come. As someone with some conservative sympathies (a better way to put it is I’m a little —as opposed to waaaay — left of center) I’ve at times felt like a coward for not speaking up against the more egregious examples of a left that has increasingly seemed to have lost its mind. For instance, I don’t think biological males should be allowed to compete with biological females (or change in their bathrooms). But until this moment, I’ve never said so publicly. Why? Because for the whole of my career, my desire to reap the benefits of the pop culture’s shinier largesse — to be on Tiny Desk, play Bonnaroo, get a glowing review from some mainstream tastemaker — preempted any moral compunction I might have to speak out against what I felt to be an obvious wrong. Not only is this cowardice, but worse, it allowed a community of which I am part (the creative community if that’s not clear) to careen even farther out of step with a general public striving to maintain some kind of hold on normalcy. The current state of the democratic party is the probably result of similar inactions by thousands of people like me — moderate people who kept their heads down out of fear of being called a name rather than tap their friends and colleagues back a step before everyone talked themselves insane. If you got something from this episode of the Morse Code Podcast and want to help us with the associated (considerable) costs, become a free or paid subscriber. Thank you! I mean, what do you think is gonna happen when you tell a generation of young men that they, by virtue of being alive, are the problem? According to the Washington Post, employment rates for working age men are at an all-time low. This recent Gallup Poll shows that young American men are uniquely lonely compared with their counterparts in other rich countries. This one minute clip from a news program I tune into, Breaking Points, explains what everybody already knows — we are way past the narrative where men need to get out of the way so that women can flourish. Along comes Sloe Jack. He starts stirring shit up, saying what a lot of young people think but are afraid to say. I saw this kid and to be honest I felt like he had a lot of guts. I got where he was coming from, and I wanted to know him a little better. This conversation is the result. I have always been something of a contrarian. So this is me behaving contrarily. However you feel about the episode, I hope we can agree: an institution, industry, or political party that operates with the kind of rigid ideological conformity that marks this particular cultural moment, is, without at least some internally-generated opposition, doomed. As the late great Jack Clement once said “What we need around here are some high class dreams.” And you don’t get high class dreams without a little controversy now and then. ~Korby 🎙️ Check out Sloe Jack’s live performance of “Fools Gold” live on the podcast Get full access to The Morse Code with Korby Lenker at korby.substack.com/subscribe

    1 h y 8 min
  2. Paul McDonald: Burn It Down, Build It Better | MCP #302

    2 OCT

    Paul McDonald: Burn It Down, Build It Better | MCP #302

    This week on The Morse Code Podcast, I sat down with Nashville artist Paul McDonald — someone I’ve known in the periphery for years, but never really talked with until now. We cover a lot of ground in this one, but the big arc is this: what happens after everything falls apart… and how you find your way back. Paul had it all — record deals, red carpets, the kind of fast success most musicians only hope for. But after his marriage ended and the spotlight faded, he found himself broke, aimless, and bummed out on the whole machine. The hustle stopped making sense. So he did something not a lot of people have the guts to do: he burned it down and started over. We talk about that unraveling and the slow rebuild that followed — how sobriety, stillness, and solo songwriting helped him reconnect to music as something sacred again. It feels like he’s not chasing anymore. He’s just… doing the work. There’s a lot here for anyone trying to walk the line between ambition and authenticity — especially those of us who’ve been at it a while. Paul’s story is a reminder that sometimes the best thing that can happen is to lose the script you were trying to follow. The Morse Code with Korby Lenker is a reader-supported deal. If you get something out of my writing, music or episodes of the Morse Code Podcast, consider becoming a paid subscriber. Also in this episode: Paul performs “Rosemarie” live in the studio, accompanied by Mike Miz on guitar and Joel Parks on keys. Don’t miss it. Any of it. 🎧 Listen to or the watch full episode on the official curated Spotify’s Morse Code Podcast Playlist (And give us a follow!) Get full access to The Morse Code with Korby Lenker at korby.substack.com/subscribe

    1 h y 7 min
  3. Lera Lynn: The Art of Letting Go (And Starting Over Again) | MCP #301

    25 SEP

    Lera Lynn: The Art of Letting Go (And Starting Over Again) | MCP #301

    If you’ve followed Lera’s career over the last decade — through True Detective (she both cowrote the Season 2 theme song with T Bone Burnette and Roseanne Cash, and acted in the show), through motherhood, through a handful of sonic evolutions — you know she’s not afraid to change. But in this latest season of her life, she didn’t just evolve; she let go. Gave her old self a funeral, as she puts it. And in doing that, she found a deeper connection to music — one that didn’t have to justify itself with relevance or approval. It just had to be real. The Morse Code with Korby Lenker is a listener-supported publication. If you are encouraged or inspired by my writing, my songs or these episodes of the Morse Code Podecast, consider becoming a paid subscriber. We got into the weeds on her new album Comic Book Cowboy (see below) — why it almost didn’t happen, and why she had to make it anyway. Produced with creative and life partner Todd Lombardo, it’s a record that asks hard questions about ego and self-worth, and it does it without flinching. We also touched on the things that scare artists right now: AI impersonation, shrinking royalties, an increasingly passive culture around art. Lera brings a clarity to these challenges that I found empowering — not because she had easy answers, but because she’s learned to live with the tension. To stay curious, and to keep making the thing. If you’re navigating your own version of reinvention — creatively, professionally, personally — I think this episode will speak to you. Sometimes letting go is the bravest part of beginning again. 🎧 Listen to the full episode here on Apple Podcasts or Spotify📀 Lera’s new album Comic Book Cowboy is out now 👇 Get full access to The Morse Code with Korby Lenker at korby.substack.com/subscribe

    1 h y 4 min
  4. The Artist You Grow Into: Anna Vogelzang on Being a 'Lifer' | MCP #227

    12 JUN

    The Artist You Grow Into: Anna Vogelzang on Being a 'Lifer' | MCP #227

    There’s a moment in this week’s episode where folksinger and creative lifer Anna Vogelzang says, “I needed someone to look at me and say: you’re still doing this.” I’ve been thinking about that. Because it’s not always easy to tell, is it? Whether we’re still in it. Whether it still matters. Whether we still matter. Anna’s someone I’ve admired for years — not just because she writes these beautiful, poignant songs, but because she’s a true creative lifer. She’s kept showing up through multiple records, two kids, three cities, and a shifting music industry that’s made persistence its own kind of poetry. In this episode, we talk about the transition from ambition to authenticity, how her creative process evolved after becoming a mother, and what it really means to build a sustainable life in the arts. There’s a lot of honesty here. About burnout. About the identity crisis that comes when the thing you’ve wrapped your whole life around starts to feel… different. And about the ways we come back to ourselves, not in spite of change, but because of it. Anna also shares what it was like to write 144 songs for her new album Afterglow — and how the very act of writing became a lifeline when she wasn’t sure she could still call herself a musician. As always, this show is for anyone trying to make art a part of their everyday lives — or for anyone who believes in the power of supporting those who do. If you're in a season where the dream feels far away, or you're wondering if it's worth continuing, I think you'll find something in Anna’s story that keeps you tethered. P.S. — Be sure to check out the gorgeous live performance of “Small Dreams,” recorded in-studio with Packy Lundholm. It’s the kind of song that meets you where you are, especially if where you are is somewhere in-between. Check it out and then listen to Anna’s brand new record “Afterglow”. It drops tomorrow, everywhere. Get full access to The Morse Code with Korby Lenker at korby.substack.com/subscribe

    52 min
  5. Life After Del McCoury: Jason Carter’s Next Chapter MCP #226

    5 JUN

    Life After Del McCoury: Jason Carter’s Next Chapter MCP #226

    “I lived the dream I had at nineteen. Now I’m trying to see what else is out there.”—Jason Carter For 33 years, Jason Carter was the fiddler for the Del McCoury Band—a role as iconic in bluegrass circles as it gets. He joined at nineteen, fresh out of Eastern Kentucky, and spent the next three decades on the road, backing one of the most revered voices in American roots music. If you’ve seen Del live any time since the early ’90s, you’ve seen Jason—bow flying, head tilted, every note right where it needed to be. Now, for the first time in his adult life, he’s stepping away from the comfort of that legacy and striking out on his own. It’s not a reinvention so much as a slow reveal: Jason’s still playing the music he loves, just a little more on his own terms. In this conversation, we talk about how it all started, what he learned from years riding shotgun on the McCoury bus, and what finally tipped the scales toward change. I first saw Jason at the Columbia Gorge Bluegrass Festival when I was still new to the whole scene. I remember watching him and thinking, This guy is the sound inside the sound. He wasn’t just playing fiddle—he was holding the whole thing together, quietly, from the side of the stage. And now here he is, not just stepping into the spotlight musically, but in life too. Earlier this year, Jason married his partner and fellow musician Bronwyn Keith-Hynes in the circle of the Grand Ole Opry stage—at sunrise, no less. It’s the kind of detail that feels like the end of a movie. But for Jason, it’s really just the start. Not only was this a fantastic conversation, but we also got a little taste of Jason steppin out to sing one of his own. I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I did! Get full access to The Morse Code with Korby Lenker at korby.substack.com/subscribe

    1 h y 1 min
  6. Erin Rae on Grief, Creativity & Letting Go of the Dreamland | MCP #225

    15 MAY

    Erin Rae on Grief, Creativity & Letting Go of the Dreamland | MCP #225

    Erin Rae is a Nashville singer-songwriter whose music blends introspective folk, vintage pop, and Americana into a sound both timeless and, I’d say, quietly radical. Raised in Jackson, Tennessee by musician parents, Erin was immersed as a kid in the language of song and storytelling. We talk about her early years in Nashville (she moved in her early 20s): late nights at the Cafe Coco RIP, and finding a community for her unique approach to songs and songwriting. She began developing her distinctive voice—soft, clear, emotionally precise. The Morse Code with Korby Lenker is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my music, writing, and episodes of the MCP, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Her 2015 debut Soon Enough, released under the name Erin Rae and the Meanwhiles, introduced a minimalist approach to country-folk songwriting that drew early comparisons to Emmylou Harris and Gillian Welch. But it was 2018’s Putting on Airs that truly announced Rae’s arrival as a songwriter of depth and nuance. The album explored mental health, identity, and self-acceptance with disarming honesty—particularly on tracks like “Bad Mind,” where she addressed internalized homophobia and the complexities of personal evolution. The record earned critical acclaim from NPR, Rolling Stone, and Paste, and expanded her audience across the U.S. and Europe. Erin’s 2022 album Lighten Up, produced by Jonathan Wilson (Father John Misty, Angel Olsen, Dawes), marked a stylistic turn for the evolving songwriter. Drawing on 1970s psych-folk and Laurel Canyon pop, the album softened the edges of her earlier work without sacrificing its emotional clarity. Themes of grief, femininity, and letting go ran through the songs, while collaborators like Kevin Morby and Meg Duffy (Hand Habits) added subtle, dreamlike textures. Critics praised it as her most expansive and confident work to date, and Rae soon found herself playing major festivals like Newport Folk and Pickathon. Throughout her career, Rae has also become a beloved harmony vocalist and collaborator, contributing to records by Tyler Childers, Courtney Marie Andrews, Brent Cobb, and Gregory Alan Isakov. Her distinctive vocal presence—warm and understated—has made her a quiet fixture of the Americana and indie-folk world. It’s a lot of limelight for such a sensitive person. She’s open about her struggles with anxiety and perfectionism (we spent a lot of talking discussing both of these things in our conversation), often using her platform to advocate for mental health and self-compassion. Her Instagram reads more like a personal journal than a promotional tool: full of candid reflections on the creative process. I’ve been a fan for more than ten years. I remember hearing Erin sing for the first time at my buddy’s house over on Pennock Street in East Nashville’s Cleveland Park neighborhood. It was one of those pass-the-guitar around nights, and when it was Erin’s turn I was struck down and slapped in that way that only happens once in a while in a town where talent’s as common as water in the tap. A flowing voice, hers, not trying too hard, exactly the right amount of pressure coming through. Also, she could play guitar really well for how good the songs were. I spent the next ten years doing my own version of the folk music fantasy — mine was driving around the country in a series of under-performing cars — so it was from a distance I watched Erin’s rise through the hallowed ranks of popular folkdom. But she’s famously kind, and open, and, in addition to being a respected singular voice, has too been a consistently sought-after collaborator. She even played the love interest in the latest Red Clay Strays music video! A few months ago, Erin’s mom passed away. For the first time publicly, she opened up about that experience, their special relationship, and what she learned from her mother, in living and in moving on. It will make you think about the people in your own life who you love and who have made an impact on you. Lastly, Erin treated us to a live performance of one of the favorites from her last release, a tune she penned with former MCP guest Andrew Combs called “Lighten Up & Try”. An amazing conversation with an amazing and refreshingly understated voice. Enjoy. Get full access to The Morse Code with Korby Lenker at korby.substack.com/subscribe

    1 h y 7 min
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