Perceived Value

Sarah Rachel Brown

Perceived Value is a podcast hosted by artist and journalist Sarah Rachel Brown, featuring radically transparent conversations about the financial and logistical realities of life as a working artist. Since 2017, the podcast has shared candid stories from makers, curators, and creative professionals worldwide, uncovering the behind-the-scenes challenges and strategies that shape sustainable artistic careers.

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    A Devotion to Service: María Cano

    In the 88th episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown is in Bogotá, Colombia, in February 2025, recording from the home and studio of visual artist and ceramist María Cano. It’s the last day of Sarah’s visit to Bogotá, and she’s finally following up on an introduction made by previous Perceived Value guest Ana María Jiménez. María is a close friend of Ana’s, and Ana knew they'd have plenty to talk about. After inviting Sarah to her studio in the Chapinero neighborhood for coffee, María agreed to an interview. The two new acquaintances talk about María’s creative practice, Salvaje, and the commercial and artistic sides of making a living through ceramics. They discuss her interest in wild clay and its connection to landscape and place, her work with communities to learn and preserve traditional ceramic techniques, and the winding path that led her to ceramics after studying production design for film and television in London.ABOUT OUR GUEST: Maria Cano is a visual artist and ceramicist who develops her practice through the exploration of materials, researching their relationship with the landscape and the communities organized around it. Through cultural exchange, Maria has been in contact with several traditional communities in Colombia, calling for the documentation and preservation of ancient ceramic techniques. She has also sought opportunities for knowledge exchange both locally and internationally. In recent years, she has dedicated herself to researching, understanding, and building different types of kilns to transform clay into ceramics. Her studio, Salvaje, aims to create a dialogue between traditional techniques and contemporary art and design. arcillasalvaje.com María’s recent publication: tinajeras de barro y río Follow our guest: @_salvaje_FOLLOW THE HOST: @sarahrachelbrown  FOLLOW THE SHOW: @perceivedvalue  SUPPORT THE SHOW: Enjoying Perceived Value? Leave a rating or review, share an episode, or support the podcast financially. Every bit of support helps me keep making the show. Pick your way to support here. The music you hear on Perceived Value is by the Seattle group Song Sparrow Research. All You Need to Know is from their album Sympathetic Buzz. Find them on Spotify! As always, thank you for listening.

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    A Return to Colombia: Jeweler & Author Nicolás Estrada

    In the 87th episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown is just outside Medellín, Colombia, recording from the family home and studio of contemporary jeweler and author Nicolás Estrada. Nicolás and Sarah first connected on social media in 2018, when Nicolás was living in Barcelona, and Sarah was in Philadelphia, PA. Their online friendship led them to meet in person during Munich Jewellery Week that year, and all these years later, they have reconnected in Colombia. When Sarah returned to Medellín to work on theCONNECTOR Exhibition, she took up Nicolás’s offer to host her and record a podcast interview. The two friends discuss Nicolás’s upbringing in Colombia during the height of violence in the late 1980s and early 1990s, being sent to the United States to study business and marketing, and navigating education, language, and identity abroad. Nicolás shares about his familial expectations to follow a path to financial success and how a later move to Barcelona led him to discover contemporary jewelry and choose a creative path. Listen to this intimate conversation between friends about what it means to live within one’s means as an artist, redefine wealth beyond money, and use jewelry to process anger, politics, and personal history. Nicolás offers insight into how he developed multiple bodies of work—commercial, artistic, and experimental—to support himself, and into the origin of his influential jewelry books, where an unpaid opportunity grew into a long-term publishing practice rooted in connection and service to the field. Towards the end of their conversation, Nicolás reflects on returning to Colombia after more than two decades abroad, on grief and inheritance, and on settling into a slower rhythm of life. 🎧 This episode is sponsored by SNAG Metalsmith, the publication of the Society of North American Goldsmiths (SNAG). Subscribe and save 25% with code VALUE25 atsnagmetalsmith.org. SUPPORT PERCEIVED VALUE: Explore How SUBSCRIBE: Add Value to your Inbox FOLLOW YOUR HOST: @sarahrachelbrown FOLLOW THE PODCAST: @perceivedvalue FOLLOW OUR GUEST: @nicolasestradajeweler

    A Return to Colombia: Jeweler & Author Nicolás Estrada
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    Never Letting the Craft Go: Marcela Rozo of Please Rain

    In the 86th episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown records from Bogotá, Colombia, where she visits Marcela Rozo, artist, designer, and founder of the textile brand Please Rain. With an unconventional background that combines economics, anthropology, and design, Marcela left a stable career in public policy to follow her passion for craft and handmaking. Their conversation explores the long and winding path from economist to maker; how Marcela rebuilt her career around textiles, founded her own rainwear label, and became one of the longest-standing residents at Materia Prima Escuela de Joyería. She reflects on motherhood, entrepreneurship, and the delicate balance between creative fulfillment and financial sustainability. Together, they discuss the intersections of craft, community, and education and how Marcela’s collaborative workshops with Materia Prima continue to blur the boundaries between textiles, ceramics, and jewelry. 📍 CONNECTOR: Jewelry as a Language of Connection opens November 15, 2025, at Gallery Loupe in Montclair, New Jersey—just ahead of New York City Jewelry Week. 🎧 This episode is sponsored by SNAG Metalsmith, the publication of the Society of North American Goldsmiths (SNAG). Subscribe and save 25% with code VALUE25 at snagmetalsmith.org. FOLLOW YOUR HOST: @sarahrachelbrown FOLLOW THE PODCAST: @perceivedvalue FOLLOW OUR GUEST: www.pleaserain.co https://www.instagram.com/pleaseraincoats/ https://www.instagram.com/rozo.mar/

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    My First Connection: Ana María Jiménez of Taller sin Borde

    In the 83rd episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown begins her travels through Colombia with an in-depth conversation with Ana María Jiménez of Taller sin Bordes and the co-curator of the CONNECTOR exhibition. Broadcast from Medellín, this episode marks the start of Season 9: CONNECTOR, recorded during Sarah’s early 2025 travels across Colombia while studying Spanish and living as a digital nomad. What began as a one-way ticket evolved into one of the most ambitious projects of her career: an international exhibition and podcast series exploring the lives and practices of Colombian jewelry artists. Ana María shares how her background in architecture and fine arts informs her jewelry practice, which bridges the object, body, and space through a deeply intentional and experimental approach. The two discuss her creative space Taller sin Borde (“Workshop Without Borders”), her research project Volver al Proceso, and how she reconstructs pre-Hispanic goldsmithing techniques using stone tools, clay molds, and lost-wax casting. Their conversation explores the cultural differences between Colombia and the U.S., the realities of working as an independent artist, and the freedom that comes from defining success on one's own terms. Together, Sarah and Ana María reflect on what it means to build a sustainable creative life rooted in curiosity, care, and connection. 📍 CONNECTOR: Jewelry as a Language of Connection opens November 15, 2025, at Gallery Loupe in Montclair, New Jersey—just ahead of New York City Jewelry Week. 🎓 To U.S.-based listeners: Ana María will be a visiting artist at The Bench Jewelry Studio in Pawtucket, Rhode Island, on November 7–8, teaching her workshop Exploring Alternative Casting and Forging, where participants will learn pre-Hispanic metalsmithing techniques. 🎧 This episode is sponsored by SNAG Metalsmith, the publication of the Society of North American Goldsmiths (SNAG). Subscribe and save 25% with code VALUE25 at snagmetalsmith.org.

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    At the Core of It: Penland Core Fellowship Then & Now with Brandon Lopez

    It's been well over a year since this interview was recorded, and it's finally seeing the light of day. Life happens - projects come up, and this wonderful conversation and a handful of others were recorded in 2023/2024 and never released. This backlog of recordings is Season 8 of the podcast: Light Of Day. This conversation focuses on the Penland School of Craft Core Fellowship. Since recording, the program has evolved, and certain aspects we discuss may no longer be accurate. Still, the heart of the fellowship—and its impact on artists—remains at the core of this episode. 2026 applications accepted Jul 15 – Oct 8, 2025. Please review the current program details here ________________________________________ In the 82nd episode of Perceived Value, host Sarah Rachel Brown records from the Penland School of Craft during the 2024 Winter Residency. As the Andrew Glasgow Resident, Sarah was invited to use her time at Penland to interview artists from across the country. Her relationship with Penland goes back to 2011, when she first attended a workshop as a scholarship student, and deepened when she became a Core Fellow from 2013 to 2015. Since launching the podcast, Sarah has often woven her Penland experiences into conversations, with many guests connected to the school or the Core Fellowship. It was only fitting that she finally welcomed a Core Fellow to the mic. In this episode, Sarah speaks with Brandon Lopez, who was in his second year of the fellowship at the time of recording. The two artists sit down and compare their Core Fellowship experiences, discussing how it has shaped Sarah’s own life and career, why Brandon chose a craft school experience over academia, and how the fellowship has evolved to meet the needs of a new generation of artists. OUR GUEST Brandon Lopez is a Mexican American artist creating functional and sculptural work with glass. Originally from Pennsylvania, he first began working with glass in 2013. Lopez attended Tyler School of Art in Philadelphia from 2014-18, where he received his BFA in Glass. Since then, he has assisted classes at craft schools and worked as an assistant for a number of artists. His work combines traditional glass blowing techniques with the aesthetics of art and objects made by ancient civilizations to create sculpture and functional objects. Lopez recently completed the Core Fellowship at Penland School of Craft. He is currently living and working in Asheville, North Carolina. Instagram: @_brandonlopez YOUR HOST Sarah Rachel Brown is an artist, journalist, and curator whose work bridges communities through storytelling, exhibition-making, and cross-cultural dialogue. She is co-curator of CONNECTOR, an international jewelry exhibition and podcast series fostering dialogue with Colombian artists. Since 2017, she has produced Perceived Value, a podcast acclaimed for its transparency on the financial realities of artists’ lives. In addition, she maintains a consulting business in marketing. Follow Sarah on Instagram RATE AND REVIEW US ON APPLE PODCASTS OR WHEREVER YOU LISTEN! $ Support Perceived Value $ Follow the podcast on Instagram The music you hear on Perceived Value is by the Seattle group Song Sparrow Research. All You Need to Know off of their album Sympathetic Buzz. Find them on Spotify!

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Perceived Value is a podcast hosted by artist and journalist Sarah Rachel Brown, featuring radically transparent conversations about the financial and logistical realities of life as a working artist. Since 2017, the podcast has shared candid stories from makers, curators, and creative professionals worldwide, uncovering the behind-the-scenes challenges and strategies that shape sustainable artistic careers.