Planning the Wild

Rachel Franchina

Welcome to Planning the Wild, the podcast designed for U.S. Forest Service professionals and partners working to enhance outdoor recreation experiences on national forest lands in the Pacific Northwest. Each episode offers practical strategies, expert interviews, and field-based insights to support effective planning and management of recreation resources. From navigating NEPA and forest planning processes to designing sustainable infrastructure and managing visitor use, this show helps you support the outdoor recreation economy, public access and stewardship goals. Whether you're new to recreation planning or a seasoned specialist, this is your resource for making smart, informed decisions that serve both people and the land.

Episodes

  1. Treaty Rights and Recreation: Andrew Gobin on Understanding Treaty Rights in Recreation Planning

    08/25/2025

    Treaty Rights and Recreation: Andrew Gobin on Understanding Treaty Rights in Recreation Planning

    In this episode of "Planning the Wild," we delve into the intersection of traditional knowledge and modern resource management with Andrew Gobin, the treaty rights manager for the Tulalip Tribes. Raised in the traditions of his people, Andrew shares how these teachings guide his work in protecting the rights and resources of his community. Discover how tribal sovereignty and traditional management practices are being integrated into contemporary strategies to preserve natural resources. Join us for an insightful conversation on the importance of cultural heritage in shaping sustainable futures. Resources: Tulalip Treaty Rights Office: https://www.tulaliptribes-nsn.gov/Dept/TreatyRightsAndGovernmentAffairs Tulalip Uplands Strategic Plan Treaty of Point Elliott: https://goia.wa.gov/tribal-government/treaty-point-elliott-1855 Boldt Decision: https://lib.law.uw.edu/indian-tribal/boldt Indian Country 101: https://www.whitenergroup.biz/indiancountry101     Meet Our Guest, Andrew Gobin  (Wazikanim) A lifelong resident of the Tulalip Indian reservation, Andrew was raised in the traditions of his people. The teachings and values instilled since birth have guided him in his work to protect the rights and resources of his people and for future generations – ensuring the continuation of his culture. Currently Andrew is the Treaty Rights Manager for the Tulalip Tribes where he and his team work to protect the inherent rights reserved by his people through the 1855 Treaty of Point Elliott – the right of taking fish at all usual and accustomed places, and to hunt and gather on open and unclaimed land. Co-management is a key element of treaty rights as a unique authority held by treaty tribes. Through work in treaty rights, Andrew brings tribal sovereignty to the fore as he works to incorporate traditional knowledge and management practices into modern plans and strategies in order to protect and preserve the natural resources across the lands and waters.

    44 min
  2. Trailblazing Together: Don Amador on Recreation Management

    07/30/2025

    Trailblazing Together: Don Amador on Recreation Management

    In this episode of "Planning the Wild", we delve into the world of trail advocacy and recreation management with Don Amador, a seasoned expert with over 35 years of experience. Discover how Don's journey from a family rooted in the outdoors to becoming a pivotal figure in trail stewardship has shaped his approach to managing public lands. We explore the importance of long-term relationships, the impact of natural disasters on recreation facilities, and the collaborative efforts needed to ensure sustainable access to the great outdoors. Whether you're a recreation planner, trail manager, or outdoor enthusiast, this episode offers valuable insights into the challenges and triumphs of managing our cherished natural spaces.   Resources: Quiet Warrior Racing: https://quietwarriorracing.com/ Post Wildfire OHV Recovery Alliance: https://www.facebook.com/pwora/ FireScape Mendocino: https://www.firescapemendocino.org/   About Don: Don Amador has been in the trail advocacy and recreation management profession for over 35 years. Don is President of Quiet Warrior Racing LLC. Don serves as the Western States Representative for the Motorcycle Industry Council. Don is Past President/CEO and current board member of the Post Wildfire OHV Recovery Alliance. Don is a Co-Founder and Core-Team member on FireScape Mendocino that is part of the Fire Learning Network. Don served as an AD Driver for the North Zone Fire Cache during the 2022, 2023, and 2024 Fire Seasons.

    24 min
  3. Rural Renaissance: How Public-Private Collaborations Drive Change

    07/28/2025

    Rural Renaissance: How Public-Private Collaborations Drive Change

    In this episode, we explore the transformative power of Public-Private Partnerships in rural communities. We dive into how these collaborations are bridging gaps, fostering innovation, and driving sustainable development. Rachel talks to Nick Green about his journey from defense intelligence to rural community revitalization. They discuss the importance of a shared vision for the future and the power of outdoor recreation to bring people together. Tune in to discover how synergy between public and private sectors is reshaping the landscape of rural development.   About Nick Nick Green is the founder and President of Catalyst Public Policy Advisors, LLC, which provides consulting services for rural communities. Nick specializes in public-private developments and managing large-scale capital improvement projects, including projects designed to promote recreation economy advances for rural areas. Nick formerly served as City Manager for the City of John Day in eastern Oregon. Previously, he was a Senior Associate with consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton, a Project Manager with Jacobs Engineering, and an intelligence analyst with the Defense Intelligence Agency. Nick has a Masters in Public Administration from the Evans School of Public Policy and Governance and a Certificate in Technology Entrepreneurship from the Foster School of Business at the University of Washington, with a Bachelor of Science in Microbiology from Brigham Young University. He currently lives in John Day, Oregon.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickgreen3/   Resources: Catalyst Public Policy Advisors: https://www.catalyst.win/ John Day, OR, Recreation Economy for Rural Communities (RERC) Report: https://www.cityofjohnday.com/sites/default/files/fileattachments/planning/page/3089/rerc_report_johndayor_final.pdf Recreation and Revitalization in John Day: https://www.cityofjohnday.com/sites/default/files/fileattachments/city_council/meeting/packets/3571/4b._recreation_and_revitalization_in_john_day_western_planner_july_2020.pdf

    26 min

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Welcome to Planning the Wild, the podcast designed for U.S. Forest Service professionals and partners working to enhance outdoor recreation experiences on national forest lands in the Pacific Northwest. Each episode offers practical strategies, expert interviews, and field-based insights to support effective planning and management of recreation resources. From navigating NEPA and forest planning processes to designing sustainable infrastructure and managing visitor use, this show helps you support the outdoor recreation economy, public access and stewardship goals. Whether you're new to recreation planning or a seasoned specialist, this is your resource for making smart, informed decisions that serve both people and the land.