Planning Xchange

Jess Noonan & Peter Jewell

Planning Xchange is an interview series of built environment professionals doing interesting work beyond the ordinary. Guests include town planners, architects, urban designers, landscape architects, academics, historians, CEO's (and much much more!). Featuring podcast hosts Jess Noonan and Peter Jewell.

  1. JAN 26

    PlanningxChange 139: Driverless Cars: What Do They Mean for Cities and Society?

    Driverless and autonomous vehicles are moving steadily from concept to reality, raising important questions for cities, streets and planning systems. While the technology is often framed as a transport or engineering issue, its impacts are likely to be felt far more broadly — shaping travel behaviour, land use, and the way urban space is organised. In this episode of PlanningxChange, hosts Cam Alderson and Jess Noonan are joined by Cern Basher to explore what autonomous vehicles could mean in practice. The discussion focuses on the economic and systemic forces behind driverless cars, rather than technological hype, and considers how cost, scale and incentives may influence how — and where — autonomy is adopted. The conversation examines potential implications for parking, congestion, public transport and equity, as well as the risk of unintended consequences such as increased travel demand. Rather than assuming a single future outcome, the episode highlights the uncertainty planners must work within as new technologies emerge. This episode also marks PlanningxChange's first video release, alongside the regular audio format, and introduces a new hosting arrangement — continuing the podcast's tradition of practical, practitioner-focused discussion about the forces shaping planning and cities. Podcast released 26 January 2026.

    57 min

  2. 11/26/2025

    PlanningxChange 138: Agritourism, Regulation and Risk: Insights from Old Mission with Mary Reilly

    In this episode of PlanningxChange, Jess and Peter speak with Mary Reilly, a planner and educator with deep experience in rural land-use issues. Mary helps us unpack the widely discussed Old Mission case from Michigan - a dispute between wineries and a township over land-use controls that resulted in a major federal damages award (approx $50m US). The discussion does not explore the legal merits or the ongoing appeal; instead, it uses the case to illuminate broader lessons for planners everywhere. Mary reflects on how agricultural areas are changing, how councils manage risk, and how planning systems can better balance rural preservation with economic adaptation. She also draws on her teaching experience to explain how real cases help future planners understand complexity, conflict, and the value of clear decision-making. Five Key Themes We Explore 1. What the Old Mission case reveals about zoning and regulation Mary outlines how restrictive controls can create tension when agricultural enterprises diversify into tastings, events, weddings and food service — activities that increasingly blur the line between "farm" and "commercial." 2. Balancing preservation with economic survival Many farms depend on supplementary income. Mary discusses how planners can support this economic reality while still protecting landscape character, amenity and long-standing rural values. 3. Managing risk for councils and planners A large damages award raises questions about insurance coverage and liability. Mary talks about how planners can help councils navigate uncertainty through clearer drafting, transparent process and sound policy grounding. 4. The unique pressures on small rural municipalities Old Mission, like many small townships, has limited planning resources. Mary explores how smaller councils can respond to complex disputes and why early community engagement can prevent escalation. 5. Lessons for planning education and practice Drawing on her academic work, Mary explains how real planning conflicts — like Old Mission — help students and practitioners think critically about regulation, equity, and the evolving expectations placed on rural land. Podcast Extra / Culture Corner Mary recommends Zoned in the USA by Sonia Hirt (https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9780801479878/zoned-in-the-usa/#bookTabs=1) and 'Paris Tea'. Jess recommends going off-line and embracing being bored. Pete recommends furniture beeswax (https://gillysaustralia.com.au) and maintaining the things around you. Episode released 27 November 2025.

    49 min

  3. 11/04/2025

    PlanningxChange 137: Architecture in Vietnam with Olivier Souquet (DE-SO Asia)

    In this episode, PlanningxChange travels to Vietnam to speak with Olivier Souquet, French architect and co-founder of DE-SO Asia, a Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City)-based design studio renowned for projects that weave together climate, culture, and poetic sensibility. Since establishing DE-SO Asia in 2016, Olivier has guided a diverse body of work across Vietnam—from rural schools and urban housing to major civic and cultural landmarks, including the new City Planning Exhibition Center in Ho Chi Minh City. His practice embraces both rigorous environmental awareness and a deep respect for local materials, geometry, geography, and traditions. Olivier discusses his architectural philosophy—shaped by influences such as Édouard Glissant's call to "act in your place, think with the world"—and the realities of designing in Vietnam's tropical context, where rain, heat, and humidity shape the rhythm of daily work. He reflects on building responsibly in a time of ecological change, how poetic gestures sustain creativity, and why uncertainty ("Au Vietnam, rien n'est jamais sûr") is part of the country's charm and challenge. This is a conversation about architecture as adaptation, empathy, and imagination—rooted in place yet globally aware. Key Topics Origins and philosophy of DE-SO Asia Practicing architecture across French and Vietnamese cultures The Family Garden studio: daily rituals, nature, and community Designing the Ho Chi Minh City Planning Exhibition Center Balancing civic responsibility with poetic intent Advice for young architects and reflections on Vietnam's creative energy About DE-SO Asia Founded in 2016 by Olivier Souquet, DE-SO Asia is a Vietnamese architectural and planning firm working at all scales—from regional masterplans to public buildings and landscapes. The firm collaborates with public authorities, private investors, and international partners, and is recognised for its environmentally conscious, site-responsive designs grounded in local knowledge and craftsmanship. 🌐 de-so.asia Culture Corner/Podcast Extra Olivier recommends the 1961 French classic film 'Last Year at Marienbad' directed by Alain Resnais (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Year_at_Marienbad) and the works of Ridley Scott in particular Blade Runner and Inception; and the music of Hans Zimmer www.Hans-zimmer.com. Jess talks of returning to play the violin; Pete talks of a 4000km return road trip travelling through rural Australia and the delights of the countryside, small towns and farming districts. Episode released 5 November 2025.

    51 min

  4. 10/14/2025

    PlanningxChange 136: Promoting Retirement Living with Daniel Gannon

    In this episode of PlanningxChange, Jess and Peter speak with Daniel Gannon, Executive Director of the Retirement Living Council of Australia. Daniel brings nearly two decades of experience across advocacy, public policy, and media, including eight years leading the Property Council in South Australia, where he played a key role in landmark tax reforms that strengthened the state's investment landscape. Now at the helm of the Retirement Living Council, Daniel is championing policies to meet the needs of Australia's rapidly ageing population and to promote age-friendly communities across the nation. He shares his insights into the future of retirement living—from debunking common misconceptions to exploring design, affordability, and the social and health benefits of village life. The conversation also tackles industry challenges: regulatory complexity, barriers to new supply, and how governments can better support this essential housing sector. Daniel discusses global and local innovations shaping the next decade of retirement living, the "silver tsunami" of demographic change, and why the right kind of housing can unlock new opportunities across Australia's property market. In the Podcast Extra / Culture Corner, Daniel recommends 'Your exceptional life' by Marcus Pearce https://marcuspearce.com.au. Jess recommends a podcast 'Dr Emily - The Risk of Avoiding Risk' by the Imperfects' https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/dr-emily-the-risk-of-avoiding-risk/id1476501557?i=1000656075537 Pete flags a forthcoming book he will publish 'Kaizo at Dog Beach' aimed at 3 - 7 year olds. Episode released 14 October 2025. (Japan National train Day & Izzy's birthday)

    52 min

  5. 09/14/2025

    PlanningxChange 135: Stephen Turner on the Japanese Railway System

    In this episode of Planningxchange, Jess Noonan and Peter Jewell are joined by Stephen Turner, founder of TS Japan Rail a well respected commentator on Japanese rail travel. Stephen has lived in Japan since the early 1990s and has featured on NHK World's Japan Railway Journal and Japanology Plus. Through his work, he helps visitors craft memorable journeys across both Japan's famous Shinkansen network and its lesser-known regional lines. Together we explore: Why Japan's railways are unique – from punctuality down to the second to a culture of courtesy and order onboard. The role of private rail companies such as Tokyu and Hankyu in shaping entire suburbs through transit-oriented development. Rail etiquette and staff culture – women-only carriages, the quiet of commuter trains, and the formality of conductors bowing to passengers. Railway fandom and culture – from timetable collectors to station melody enthusiasts, and even the enduring nostalgia of the 1900's Railway Songs of Owada Takeki (tetsudo shoka). Rural and third-sector lines – the challenges of depopulation, the fight to sustain local connections, and the role of tourism in keeping them alive. What the future holds – labour shortages, financial pressures, and whether Japan's model can inspire other countries. Stephen's insights open a window onto railways as more than just transport—they are a cultural institution, an engine of urban form, and a source of national pride. Tune in to hear how the Japanese system blends planning, culture, and innovation, and what lessons it might hold for cities and regions across the world.  In Podcast Extra/Culture Corner Stephen recommends travelling the rural train lines of Japan. Jess discusses the relaxing nature of gardening and the book 'Abundance' by Ezra Klein. Pete recommends the book 'I Want Everything' by Dominic Amerena. Podcast episode released on 14 September 2025.

    42 min

  6. 08/18/2025

    PlanningxChange 134: Graffiti, Governance and the City - Dr Cameron McAuliffe

    In this episode of PlanningXchange (PX135), we sit down with Dr Cameron McAuliffe, Senior Lecturer in Human Geography & Urban Studies at Western Sydney University. Cameron has written widely on the cultural politics of graffiti and street art, and has advised public authorities on how cities can approach the governance of these highly visible—and often contested—forms of expression. Our conversation explores: The social meaning of graffiti in contemporary cities How governments attempt to balance regulation, creativity, and community values The role of planning and urban management in shaping the street art landscape International perspectives on graffiti and what Sydney's experience can teach other cities Cameron offers both scholarly insight and practical reflections from his advisory work with councils and state agencies. For planners, urban designers, and anyone interested in the cultural life of cities, this episode sheds light on a subject that provokes strong reactions but also opens up new ways of thinking about public space. In Podcast extra / Culture corner Cameron recommends the Vivid Festival in Sydney, a celebration of light, music, and creative culture that transforms the city each year. Jess is diving into the global hit Squid Game, reflecting on its social themes and powerful storytelling; whilst Pete recommends George Orwell's Coming Up for Air, available as audiobook on YouTube or in book form Podcast released: 18 August 2025

    57 min

  7. 07/26/2025

    PlanningxChange 133: Five Decades in City Planning: A Conversation with Peter O'Leary

    In this episode of PlanningXchange, we speak with Peter O'Leary, whose planning career spans an impressive five decades. Peter began his journey in the mid-1970s as a cadet in local government, rising through the ranks to senior management. He later moved into the private sector before serving over 11 years as a Tribunal Member at VCAT, where he presided over a broad range of planning matters. Following his time on the bench, Peter returned to consultancy, specialising in mediation and dispute resolution. We explore each phase of his remarkable career, drawing on his insights into what makes an effective advocate, a fair and capable decision-maker, and a resilient professional. Peter offers thoughtful guidance for planners at every stage—whether just starting out, navigating mid-career, or reflecting on a lifetime of service. Few reach the milestone of 50 years in the profession—fewer still with such breadth of experience. This is a generous and candid conversation with a true planner's planner. In Culture Corner / Podcast Extra: Peter recommends The Incredible Life of Hubert Wilkins: Australia's Greatest Explorer – Wikipedia – and the documentary Maya and the Wave – mayaandthewave.com. Jess suggests attending professional conferences for inspiration and renewal. Pete offers a couple of classic comforts: hot water bottles on cold nights and the contemplative beauty of Evensong at Church. Podcast released 26 July 2025

    48 min

  8. 06/26/2025

    PlanningxChange 132: How AI Is Transforming City Planning - with Scott Matheson

    In this episode of PlanningXchange, we speak with Scott Matheson, Head of Planning at MyLot, an Australian AI technology company focused on simplifying the planning process for councils and communities. With a background in statutory planning across local government, consultancies, and the Victorian Department of Transport and Planning, Scott brings both practical experience and a forward-thinking approach to the role of technology in urban planning. We explore Scott's journey from traditional regulatory planning into the dynamic world of AI, discussing how MyLot is transforming development assessments with automated tools and data-driven insights. Scott shares examples of how AI can enhance transparency, reduce processing times, and better engage citizens—while still respecting the role of professional judgment and community context. We also discuss the broader implications of AI on the planning profession, potential ethical concerns, broader strategic analysis, impacts on employment and how planners can position themselves to work with emerging technologies rather than against them.In Culture Corner / Podcast Extra,  Scott shares a light-hearted story about using AI to open up relationship discussions. Jess recommends the Netflix documentary Titan: The OceanGate Submersible Disaster, which examines the events leading up to the 2023 implosion of the Titan submersible during a deep-sea expedition to the Titanic wreck site. https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81712178 Pete recommends investing in a pair of Stihl chainsaw chaps for serious chainsaw safety.https://shop.stihl.com.au/function-core-270-chaps Podcast released 26 June 2025

    53 min
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Planning Xchange is an interview series of built environment professionals doing interesting work beyond the ordinary. Guests include town planners, architects, urban designers, landscape architects, academics, historians, CEO's (and much much more!). Featuring podcast hosts Jess Noonan and Peter Jewell.

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  • Creator
    Jess Noonan & Peter Jewell
  • Years Active
    2014 - 2026
  • Episodes
    139
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Show Website
    Planning Xchange