Shane Lukas teaches organizations how to hold onto what they believe under pressure, and he built that method in a jail cell, in isolation, with a short pencil and a scrap of paper. Years of activism had put him in front of a system that wanted him to explain his values away, and he had to decide on the spot which of them he would keep. One question carried him through the days that followed, and the answer is still on that list. In this conversation, we get into: - The question Shane asked himself in that cell, and why it made the next few days bearable - Why honesty is probably a guiding value for you rather than a defining one, and what a sick dog has to do with it - How he decides when to turn down a client, including the one he declined after asking his team how they felt - The body signal that tells you a value really defines you, and the cocktail party that left him asking "who was that?" 🟪 Timestamps (00:00) Intro (04:59) Why mismatched values become dangerous (12:44) How to dig out your real values (18:39) When a client's values clash with yours (25:30) The three tiers of your values (32:26) What your body knows about your values (39:03) Is courage a trait or a method (44:25) What was on the scrap of paper 🟪 About the Guest Shane Lukas is an activist, public speaker, and award-winning designer known for his work at the intersection of storytelling, leadership, and organizational change. He is the founder of A Great Idea, a conscious creative agency he has led for over a decade, partnering with organizations, foundations, and community-based groups to strengthen alignment, build trust, and translate values into decisions that hold up in practice. Lukas has taken the TEDx stage as a speaker, hosts the Power Beyond Pride podcast, and has received multiple awards for his design and leadership work. Through speaking engagements, creative strategy, and education, he works with leaders and organizations to navigate complexity, improve collaboration, and create advocacy and impact that lead to sustained action. 🟪 Connect with Shane Lukas - TEDx talk: https://saveyourspark.com - Speaking and consulting: https://shanelukas.com - Agency: https://agreatidea.com 🟪 Connect with Gabe Marusca - Website: https://www.gabemarusca.com - YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@gabemarusca - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabemarusca/ - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gabemarusca/ - X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/gabemarusca - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/gabemarusca - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gabemarusca