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Kacper Oleszkiewicz

On Secure Channels I talk with people who are doing Sales in Cybersecurity, and hopefully ask them questions they find interesting. How do they sell it? Is the 95-5% rule valid? What are the 3 main challenges in their role? Are they people related, or is it sell, sell, sell!?  I recruit the people who help sell the Cybersecurity products. I also use this format to do shows with people within wider Security that I find interesting.  Join the live session if you want to ask a question - schedule on my LinkedIn profile! *** Hi, I am Kacper. I have a background in Law and Security. I am producing and editing this show. You can contact me directly on my LinkedIn profile.  My LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/hirecybersales

Episodes

  1. #5 Jack Jillings, a Cybersecurity Recruiter with a Sports Psychology degree | socode.co.uk

    05/22/2025

    #5 Jack Jillings, a Cybersecurity Recruiter with a Sports Psychology degree | socode.co.uk

    I had a great pleasure of talking with Jack Jillings, a skilled CyberSecurity recruiter working with SoCode, an agency that was started in England, but reached a worldwide status - so did the British empire, right? Background-wise, Jack is really interesting. He has studied Sports Psychology - I believe that is coming in handy when he needs grit & determination. Working in sales & climbing the corporate ladder in a car rental industry has shaped him to be focused on what the customer needs. Takeaway-wise, if I had to choose one, that would be that the CyberSecurity market is up & down, constantly, because of the demand & supply law. Several years ago you had many job postings, and few people that are able to fill them. Some time passed, people got the wind of things, and even though the amount of CyberSec jobs grew, the proportion didn't stay the same.  The fact that major companies in the USA laid off 5/10/15% of their IT headcount is not helping the market either. Other companies see that this is possible, and want to follow suit, because they all chase the profits.  Having said that, Jack sees a trend that good jobs are slowly coming back. Hope is there, the demand for Cybersecurity is growing again. Other than that, we discussed that a good external hiring agency should be more like a consultant (provide the client insights about the market, when it is helpful for them), why internal talent acquisition and external recruitment should be friendly to each other (we all have a lot to do, so we can focus on helping each other and not be antagonistic), and why some senior Cyber people are afraid to pick up their phones (yes, it's because of the cold calling haha).  In the ad break I talk about my sponsor. Me 😂 If you know a person that have trouble hiring for CyberSecurity role, let them know about me, and once I make a successful placement, I will wire you 1,000 Euros. This person has to mention you. I work on a success fee basis, and I charge one monthly salary gross for a successful hire.  Please check the reward section of my page to read through the terms & conditions, and to check if the reward is still active at the time that you are reading this. 💰 Reward - good2be.eu/reward 💰 💻 Jack Li - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-jillings-172197a0/ 💻 Kacper LI - https://www.linkedin.com/in/IRecruitCybersecurityPeople/ Kacper with good2be.eu

    45 min
  2. S01E03 - Rida, Cyber Security Executive Search Consultant & CEO of AxiumRH

    05/05/2025

    S01E03 - Rida, Cyber Security Executive Search Consultant & CEO of AxiumRH

    (00:00:00) S01E03 - Rida, Cyber Security Executive Search Consultant & CEO of AxiumRH (00:00:15) What AxiumRH, Rida's company does (00:01:50) Why companies use other companies to recruit? (00:04:04) Recruiting companies actually save you money. (00:07:21) Why clients come to AxiumRH (00:10:40) Do clients come to Rida, or Rida to clients :) (00:13:30) How Rida is doing his prospecting (00:17:45) Hiring in Cybersecurity now (00:20:27) What does "senior" mean? (00:21:56) Why we challange our clients viewpoints :) (00:24:10) Agency recruiting need to provide market oversight! (00:27:00) How Rida made one client successful :) (00:33:30) How is the job market in Cybersecurity nowadays? (00:39:15) Rida's message to people working in Cybersecurity & Recruitment (00:41:10) Rida's advice to me. Rida reinforces three main points: 1. Stay human. Recruitment in Cybersecurity is essentially HR, and HR has a human in the name. Everything is evolving, automation and AI is changing how we work, but the core of what we do always will be human, because we are doing that. It's important not to loose this from our sight. That's the key point of our job. Let's keep it human. 2. A recruitment agency needs to provide market oversight. This cannot be stressed enough, this alone will help the client solve some issues and maybe even the whole problem. And if you tell the client how it is, they are more likely to hear you out. 3. Ideas stay ideas until you test them out. Some ideas work, some don't, but you need to test them out first to check that :) Kacper from good2be.eu & Rida from AxiumRH good2be.eu/podcast

    44 min

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On Secure Channels I talk with people who are doing Sales in Cybersecurity, and hopefully ask them questions they find interesting. How do they sell it? Is the 95-5% rule valid? What are the 3 main challenges in their role? Are they people related, or is it sell, sell, sell!?  I recruit the people who help sell the Cybersecurity products. I also use this format to do shows with people within wider Security that I find interesting.  Join the live session if you want to ask a question - schedule on my LinkedIn profile! *** Hi, I am Kacper. I have a background in Law and Security. I am producing and editing this show. You can contact me directly on my LinkedIn profile.  My LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/hirecybersales