Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This

Kami Schatz and Melissa Hayes
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Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This is the podcast for deep thinkers, ambitious women, entrepreneurs, and high achievers navigating the thoughts we all have but rarely say out loud. Hosted by Melissa Hayes & Kami Schatz, we unpack overthinking, imposter syndrome, confidence, identity shifts, success, relationships, mindset, personal growth, and becoming the next version of yourself. Honest conversations about human behavior, doing hard things, and figuring life out while probably most definitely overthinking it.

  1. Aug 1

    Ep. 16: The Hidden Cost of Chasing Your Dreams | Ambition, Identity & Finding Meaning in the Journey

    Everyone tells you to chase your dreams. Almost no one talks about what those dreams will ask of you. In this episode, Kami and Melissa explore the hidden emotional cost of ambition, the pressure to keep moving the goalposts, and why reaching the milestone rarely feels the way we imagined it would. From entrepreneurship and identity to grief, purpose, and learning to celebrate yourself, this conversation is a reminder that the destination isn't what changes you - the journey does. If you've ever wondered why you still feel like there's "more" after reaching a goal, or struggled to slow down long enough to appreciate how far you've come, this episode is for you. Because maybe the greatest achievement isn't reaching the dream... it's becoming the person you had to become along the way. Connect with us: Instagram: @epscoaching | @brave.harbour

    Ep. 16: The Hidden Cost of Chasing Your Dreams | Ambition, Identity & Finding Meaning in the Journey

  2. Jul 17

    Ep. 15: Why You Self-Sabotage When Life Starts Getting Better (Fear of Success Explained)

    What happens when the thing you have been hoping for actually starts happening? Most of us expect success, growth, love, and new opportunities to feel exciting… But sometimes they feel terrifying. In this episode, we talk about the unexpected panic that comes when life starts working - the moment where old patterns, self-doubt, and imposter syndrome try to pull us back into what feels familiar. We talk about learning to receive: ✨ Compliments without minimizing yourself ✨ Opportunities without questioning if you deserve them ✨ Success without sabotaging it ✨ Growth without shrinking back into who you used to be Because maybe the panic isn’t telling you that you’re on the wrong path. Maybe it’s showing you that you’re becoming someone new. Connect with us: Instagram: @epscoaching @brave.harbour

    Ep. 15: Why You Self-Sabotage When Life Starts Getting Better (Fear of Success Explained)

  3. Jul 10

    Ep. 14: Why Do I Need Validation From Others? | Stop Seeking Approval & Start Trusting Yourself

    Why do we crave validation from others? Why do we care so much about what people think? From childhood praise and wanting to make people proud… to chasing success, relationships, money, followers, and achievements — so many of us spend years looking outside ourselves for proof that we are enough. In this episode, Kami and Melissa dive into the psychology behind why humans seek validation and how the need for approval can show up in every area of life. We talk about: ✨ Where our need for validation starts ✨ The connection between validation, attention, and belonging ✨ How people pleasing impacts confidence and self-worth ✨ Seeking validation in business, relationships, money, and success ✨ Why external validation can become a trap ✨ Learning how to trust yourself and build internal validation The truth is… wanting validation does not make you weak. It makes you human. We are wired for connection, encouragement, and community. The shift happens when we stop needing approval from others to determine our worth and start learning how to validate ourselves. Because the biggest question isn’t: “Do people approve of me?” It’s: “Do I approve of the person I am becoming?” 🎙️ Join Kami and Melissa for honest conversations around personal growth, mindset shifts, authenticity, self-awareness, relationships, entrepreneurship, and becoming more of who you truly are. Connect with us: Kami — @epscoaching Melissa — @brave.harbour

    Ep. 14: Why Do I Need Validation From Others? | Stop Seeking Approval & Start Trusting Yourself

  4. Jul 5

    Ep. 13: Who are you without the mask? The Truth About Authenticity - Part 2

    Who are you without the mask? The mask of being perfect. The mask of having it all together. The mask of becoming the person everyone else expected you to be. In this episode, we continue our conversation on authenticity and explore the moments when we realized we weren’t always living as ourselves - we were living as the versions we thought we had to become. We talk about confidence, identity, showing up online, judgment, people pleasing, and learning to separate who you truly are from who the world told you to be. Because the goal isn’t to become someone new. Sometimes the real journey is finally coming back to yourself.

    Ep. 13: Who are you without the mask? The Truth About Authenticity - Part 2

  5. Jun 26

    Ep. 12: The Delusion Required to Try Something New | Why Looking Crazy Might Be the First Step to Success

    What does it take to try something new? According to Kami and Melissa... a little bit of delusion. In this episode, we explore why every dream, business, podcast, and big life change starts with believing in something before there is proof it will work. We share stories about imposter syndrome, fear of judgment, looking ridiculous, and taking action long before confidence arrives. Because the truth is: Confidence doesn't come before action. Confidence comes from action. If you've ever worried about what people might think, questioned whether you're qualified, or felt called to do something bigger, this conversation is for you. Sometimes the people who change their lives are simply the people willing to look a little crazy first.

    Ep. 12: The Delusion Required to Try Something New | Why Looking Crazy Might Be the First Step to Success

  6. Jun 19

    Ep. 11: Why Women Feel Pressure to Be Everything | The Real Reason You're Exhausted All the Time

    In Episode 11 of Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This, Kami and Melissa explore the emotional weight so many women carry every day—the pressure to achieve more, earn more, give more, and somehow keep everyone happy while doing it. Through personal stories and honest reflection, they discuss people-pleasing, productivity, motherhood, entrepreneurship, self-worth, and the importance of filling your own bucket before trying to pour into everyone else's. This episode is a reminder that you don't need permission to take the pressure off. Sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is stop creating chaos, let go of unrealistic expectations, and allow the world to meet you where you are. If you've been feeling overwhelmed, stretched too thin, or like you're never doing enough, this conversation will remind you that you're not alone.

    Ep. 11: Why Women Feel Pressure to Be Everything | The Real Reason You're Exhausted All the Time

  7. May 29

    Ep. 10: How to Trust Yourself More | Stop Asking Everyone Else What to Do

    Have you ever delayed a decision because you needed one more opinion? In this episode, Kami and Melissa unpack why so many of us struggle to trust ourselves. From business decisions and life changes to relationships, clutter, and personal growth, they explore the ways we seek validation before taking action. The conversation touches on people-pleasing, hyper-independence, emotional maturity, intuition, and the reality that sometimes there is no perfect answer - just the courage to make a choice and learn from it. If you've been stuck in analysis paralysis, waiting for certainty, or asking everyone else what they think before listening to yourself, this episode offers a refreshing reminder: You are more capable than you think, and your current situation is not your final destination. Hosted by Kami Schatz and Melissa Hayes. When your thoughts won't shut up... but you keep showing up.

    Ep. 10: How to Trust Yourself More | Stop Asking Everyone Else What to Do

  8. May 22

    Ep. 9: Is Authenticity Becoming Performative? The Truth About Social Media, Vulnerability & Going Viral

    Is authenticity online actually authentic anymore? In this episode of Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This, Kami and Melissa unpack the blurry line between being genuinely yourself and performing authenticity for an audience. From crying videos and curated vulnerability to viral content, personal branding, and the pressure to always be “real,” this conversation gets honest about what authenticity actually looks like in today’s social media world. We explore the difference between connection and validation, why not everything needs an audience to be meaningful, the truth about chasing viral content, and what authentic marketing really means when you’re building a business or personal brand. We also dive into processing life publicly vs. privately, emotional boundaries online, and why sustainable connection will always outperform performative attention. If you’ve ever questioned what’s real online or caught yourself overthinking how you show up... this episode is for you.

    Ep. 9: Is Authenticity Becoming Performative? The Truth About Social Media, Vulnerability & Going Viral
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Probably Most Definitely Overthinking This is the podcast for deep thinkers, ambitious women, entrepreneurs, and high achievers navigating the thoughts we all have but rarely say out loud. Hosted by Melissa Hayes & Kami Schatz, we unpack overthinking, imposter syndrome, confidence, identity shifts, success, relationships, mindset, personal growth, and becoming the next version of yourself. Honest conversations about human behavior, doing hard things, and figuring life out while probably most definitely overthinking it.

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