ProductCamp Conversations

Allison Herbert and Dave Mathias

ProductCamp Conversations is a podcast for curious product people. It is hosted by Allison Herbert and Dave Mathias, thinking out loud, with an occasional guest, about the parts of product that don't fit on a roadmap: community, the human element, and the work that happens from casual conversations with other product people. We are Allison and Dave, product friends, that met at a ProductCamp in 2022. As people that enjoy both attending and participating in the ProductCamp community we decided to create a podcast related to the amazingness of this community. Maybe we will see you at a ProductCamp sometime soon, but in the meantime take the opportunity to indulge in some ProductCamp Conversations. Subscribe on your favorite podcast player to get new episodes when they come out. Got feedback or a potential guest? Contact us at productcampconversations@gmail.com.

Episodes

  1. 2d ago

    Be the Best Learner, Not the Expert (with Marion Cholieu)

    In this episode of ProductCamp Conversations, Marion Cholieu traces a non-linear path into product — from setting up DoorDash promotions to managing cybersecurity software that protects critical infrastructure — and unpacks what actually transfers when you cross from consumer speed to highly regulated, high-trust B2B. 📌 Topics Covered: What transfers (and what changes) from B2C to OT cybersecurity The DoorDash frustration that pulled her into product Building a product community from scratch in Phoenix Localization beyond translation, via The Culture Map Be the best learner, not the domain expert-------------------------------------------------- 🔗 CONNECT WITH GUEST MARION CHOLIEU: LinkedIn: /marion-cholieu -------------------------------------------------- 🎙️ CONNECT WITH THE HOSTS: • Allison Herbert: LinkedIn: /aherbert42 Website: https://allisonherbert.com • Dave Mathias: LinkedIn: /davemathias1 X / Twitter: https://x.com/davemathias Website: https://gobeyondthedata.com -------------------------------------------------- 📩 GET IN TOUCH: Have thoughts on this episode or want to suggest a topic/guest? Drop a comment below or reach out at productcampconversations@gmail.com! 👍 Like, subscribe, and hit the bell for more conversations on the human side of product management.

    Be the Best Learner, Not the Expert (with Marion Cholieu)

  2. Aug 15

    AI Is Holding a Mirror to Your Organization — Are You Ready? (with David Dean)

    In this episode of ProductCamp Conversations, Allison Herbert and Dave Mathias sit down with author, strategist, and product leader David Dean to explore a critical, often overlooked reality: AI isn't just a technical upgrade—it’s an organizational mirror. Drawing from his book An Inbox Between Us and his session at ProductCamp PHX ("AI and the Organizational Mirror"), David breaks down how introducing AI into an enterprise instantly exposes informal workarounds, cultural bottlenecks, and communication gaps. We dive into real-world AI governance, the human dynamics behind technology adoption, and how product leaders can navigate the organizational shifts happening under the surface. 📌 Topics Covered: • The concept of the "AI Mirror" and why it reveals hidden operating systems • Real-world takeaways on AI implementation and governance • Navigating the messy intersection of humans, teams, and automation • Highlights from the inaugural ProductCamp PHX -------------------------------------------------- 🔗 CONNECT WITH GUEST DAVID DEAN: • Book: "An Inbox Between Us" — https://www.davidchristopherdean.com/about/ • Website: https://www.davidchristopherdean.com • Newsletter: "The AI Mirror" (LinkedIn) • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidchristopherdean -------------------------------------------------- 🎙️ CONNECT WITH THE HOSTS: • Allison Herbert: - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aherbert42 - Website: https://allisonherbert.com • Dave Mathias: - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davemathias1 - X / Twitter: https://x.com/davemathias - Website: https://gobeyondthedata.com -------------------------------------------------- 📩 GET IN TOUCH: Have thoughts on this episode or want to suggest a topic/guest? Drop a comment below or reach out at productcampconversations@gmail.com! 👍 Like, subscribe, and hit the bell for more conversations on the human side of product management.

    AI Is Holding a Mirror to Your Organization — Are You Ready? (with David Dean)

  3. Aug 8

    Insights from the inaugural ProductCamp PHX Experience

    Allison and Dave discuss Allison's recent experiences at the inaugural ProductCamp PHX in Phoenix, insights on community building, engaging students, and navigating change in the product landscape. Discover practical tips, lessons learned, and inspiring stories to elevate your product practice.

    Insights from the inaugural ProductCamp PHX Experience

  4. Aug 1

    Find your community or build it yourself

    After a week of unconferences, meetups, and community-led conversations, Allison and Dave explore why product people need spaces that stretch their thinking. They discuss how in-person and virtual communities sharpen product craft, AI judgment, and career growth—and why, when the right community doesn’t exist, you might be the person to start it.

    Find your community or build it yourself

  5. Jul 25

    Let's get this PCC started

    In this episode, Allison Herbert and Dave Mathias explore the vibrant world of Product Camps, discussing their history, format, community impact, and how to maximize the experience for personal and professional growth. Whether you're a seasoned attendee or new to the scene, discover how these unconference events foster learning, networking, and innovation in product management.

    Let's get this PCC started
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About

ProductCamp Conversations is a podcast for curious product people. It is hosted by Allison Herbert and Dave Mathias, thinking out loud, with an occasional guest, about the parts of product that don't fit on a roadmap: community, the human element, and the work that happens from casual conversations with other product people. We are Allison and Dave, product friends, that met at a ProductCamp in 2022. As people that enjoy both attending and participating in the ProductCamp community we decided to create a podcast related to the amazingness of this community. Maybe we will see you at a ProductCamp sometime soon, but in the meantime take the opportunity to indulge in some ProductCamp Conversations. Subscribe on your favorite podcast player to get new episodes when they come out. Got feedback or a potential guest? Contact us at productcampconversations@gmail.com.

Information

  • Creator
    Allison Herbert and Dave Mathias
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    5
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Allison Herbert and Dave Mathias
  • Show Website
    ProductCamp Conversations