Productive Joy

Dr. Christie McMullen
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Welcome to Productive Joy with Dr. Christie. I'm your host, Christie McMullen, and together we are going to make sure we turn fun into action. How will we do that? By thoughtfully taking AIM. AIM stands for Analyze Improve Move. We're going to analyze the things that you're currently doing that you're like, I probably could find more joy in this. We're going to improve on those things by listening to experts and learning all kinds of new ways to do business. And then we're going to move. It is time to learn and grow together...let's do this.

  1. 1D AGO

    The Numbers Don’t Lie - Turn Data Into Action and More From Andy Weins and Lynn Corazzi

    Today Dr. Christie recaps her most recent conversations about leaning into numbers, featuring Andy Weins and Lynn Corazzii on stopping avoidance of data. They argue that people fear numbers because they feel finite and scary, but data can tell a clear story about next steps, desired results, and even turning data into profit by focusing on facts, not feelings.  A key takeaway is using empowering self-talk—“I am, I can, I feel, I know, I want, I will”—and shifting from “I have to” to “I get to” or “I choose to.” The episode ends by urging listeners to act on what they learned and make fun and work meet. Numbers can feel intimidating, but what if they were actually the key to clarity, growth, and confidence? In this recap episode of Productive Joy, we revisit recent conversations about embracing data instead of avoiding it. Building on insights from entrepreneur Kyle Young and this week’s guests, Andy Wines and Lynn Corozzi, the focus is simple but powerful: numbers tell a story—and that story can guide better decisions in both life and business. Many people avoid looking at data because it feels final, uncomfortable, or overwhelming. But when you lean into the numbers, they become tools for insight rather than sources of stress. Data can reveal trends, confirm what your intuition is telling you, and help you move toward the results you truly want. This episode explores how shifting your mindset—from fear of numbers to curiosity about what they reveal—can transform the way you operate personally and professionally. 1. Numbers Tell a Story Whether it's your business finances, productivity metrics, or personal health data, numbers provide valuable feedback. Instead of guessing what’s working, data gives you a clearer direction forward. 2. Simple Does Not Mean Easy Looking at the numbers may sound simple, but it can be emotionally challenging. Avoidance often stems from fear of what the numbers might reveal. 3. Turn Data Into Profit and Progress When you focus on facts rather than feelings, you gain the ability to adjust your actions and improve results. Data becomes a roadmap for better decisions. 5. Shift from “I Have To” to “I Choose To”Reframing obligations into choices creates a more empowered mindset. When you move from “I have to do this” to “I choose to do this,” you regain control over your actions and outcomes. Numbers don’t just live in spreadsheets—they’re everywhere in modern life. Wearable technology like the Oura Ring or Apple Watch tracks sleep, activity, and recovery. These tools provide real-time feedback about your habits and health. But the key isn’t simply collecting data—it’s using it to improve behavior. For example: Sleep metrics can encourage healthier routines. Activity tracking can motivate consistent exercise. Productivity data can reveal when you’re doing your best work. In business, the same principle applies: Profit and loss statements Revenue trends Expense tracking Performance metrics Ignoring these numbers doesn’t make problems disappear—it simply delays the moment when you must deal with them. When numbers consistently show the same trend, they’re trying to tell you something. If your sleep data shows consistent fatigue, your body may need rest.If your financial numbers show declining margins, your business strategy may need adjustment. The goal isn’t perfection—it’s awareness and action. How data can guide smarter decisions Why people avoid numbers—and how to overcome that fear The mindset shift that turns obligations into choices How personal metrics and business data both drive growth productive joy podcast, stop avoiding your numbers, business data mindset, using data for decision making, productivity and metrics, business growth strategies, financial awareness for entrepreneurs, mindset and performance, turning data into profit Key Takeaways from This EpisodePersonal Data vs. Professional DataStop Ignoring the SignalsListen If You Want To Learn:Keywords

    7 min

  2. 4D AGO

    Stop Avoiding the Numbers with Andy Weins and Lynn Corazzi

    Many entrepreneurs love creativity, freedom, and building something meaningful—but when it comes to numbers, financial statements, and accounting, they often freeze or avoid them altogether. In this episode of Productive Joy, Dr. Christie sits down with entrepreneurs and co-authors Andy Weins and Lynn Corazzi to break down a powerful message: Your business numbers are not the enemy—they are the story of your decisions. Together, Andy and Lynn explain how small business owners can stop avoiding their numbers, simplify financial data, and build true financial confidence. They introduce their new book: Stop Avoiding Your Numbers: The Guide to Financial Confidence for Small Business Owners. Their official book launch date is March 24th!! here is a link for their book presale: https://stopavoidingyournumbers.com/buy-the-book/ If you've ever felt overwhelmed by profit-and-loss statements, intimidated by financial jargon, or unsure where to start with your business finances, this episode will change how you think about data, math, and decision-making. Many business owners believe they simply aren't “math people.” But according to Andy and Lynn, that's not the real issue. The real issue is behavior and mindset. Numbers represent: Your decisions Your habits Your priorities Your outcomes When entrepreneurs avoid their numbers, they are often avoiding what those numbers reveal about their behavior. Instead of treating financial data like a test you might fail, Andy encourages business owners to see it differently: Your numbers are just a story. Once you learn how to read that story, business finances become far less intimidating—and even fun. A profit and loss statement is actually simple: Money coming in Money going out What remains as profit But when entrepreneurs see dozens of line items and financial terminology, it feels overwhelming. That’s why Andy and Lynn created a system that starts with questions instead of answers. Instead of telling business owners what to do, their book teaches them how to ask better financial questions. Dr. Christie talks about her personality framework using four types: Paperclip (structured, detail-driven) Magnifying Glass (focused problem-solver) Teddy Bear (relationship-oriented) Slinky (creative and adaptable) Andy points out that most entrepreneurs are slinkies. They started businesses because they wanted: Freedom Creativity Independence Flexibility Not spreadsheets. But great business owners eventually learn that understanding numbers empowers their creativity instead of restricting it. Lynn introduces his unique definition of CFO. Instead of Chief Financial Officer, he defines CFO as: Confident Financial Outcomes. Confidence comes from: Information Understanding Consistent habits Clear decision-making When entrepreneurs truly understand their numbers, they gain the confidence to: Set better goals Make smarter investments Grow their business intentionally A key theme throughout the conversation is baby steps. Entrepreneurs don’t need to overhaul everything overnight. Instead, they should start with simple habits Website: DataToProfit.net Website: AndyWeins.com You can also connect with both guests on LinkedIn and learn more about their work helping entrepreneurs build financial confidence through data and storytelling. Episode OverviewWhy Entrepreneurs Avoid Their NumbersMaking Business Finances Simple (Not Necessarily Easy)The Three Core Financial Statements (Simplified)1. Profit and Loss Statement (P&L)2. Balance Sheet3. Cash Flow StatementEntrepreneurs Are “Slinkies,” Not Spreadsheet PeopleWhy Women Often Excel at Financial ConversationsThe Real Goal: Confident Financial OutcomesThe Power of Small Financial HabitsWhat Productive Joy Means to These EntrepreneursLynn’s DefinitionAndy’s DefinitionAndy’s Six Most Powerful SentencesThe Biggest Lesson for EntrepreneursLynn’s MessageAndy’s MessageAbout the BookWhere to Find the GuestsLynn CordazziAndy WeinsKey Takeaways From This Episode

    34 min

  3. MAR 6

    Great Leaders Guide People Toward Meaningful Direction and More From Dalmo Cirne

    Leadership and management are often treated like opposites. But are they really? In this episode recap of Productive Joy, Dr. Christie reflects on her powerful recent leadership conversation with Dalmo Cirne, author of The Four Streams of Leadership. The takeaway? Leadership and management are not competing ideas — they are complementary skills. Great leaders guide people toward meaningful direction, but they must also manage the work required to get there. In other words, effective leadership requires both people leadership and work management. This episode explores the leadership framework Dalmo Cirne shares in his book and how it can help managers, leaders, educators, and professionals navigate complex workplaces while still maintaining personal wellbeing. During conversations with both authors, Dr. Christie raised a common concern: the word manager can rub people the wrong way. Many professionals prefer to identify as leaders rather than managers. However, both authors agreed on an important truth: Leadership inspires direction. Management ensures results. To be successful, professionals must balance both. You can lead people. You can manage work. But effective leadership requires doing both at the same time. In The Four Streams of Leadership, Dalmo Cirne uses a powerful metaphor to explain how leaders receive information and influence from multiple directions. These four streams represent the flow of leadership responsibilities. Everything begins with you. The reservoir represents the internal resources leaders bring to their role: Energy Self-awareness Emotional regulation Personal growth Downstream represents the people and work that leaders directly influence: Team members Projects Organizational results Performance outcomes This is where most managers spend the majority of their time — guiding work, solving problems, and helping teams reach their potential. Leadership isn’t only about guiding people below you in an organization. It also includes managing upward. Upstream leadership includes: Communicating effectively with your boss Helping leadership understand what teams need Influencing decisions Providing clear information that supports better outcomes Great managers make their leaders better. Side streams represent the unpredictable forces that influence leadership. These can include: Organizational changes Budget pressures Market shifts Public perception Workplace culture challenges Leaders cannot eliminate these forces — but they can learn to navigate them effectively. One of the most practical leadership lessons in this episode is the importance of maintaining your own energy. Leaders cannot pour from an empty cup. When the reservoir is full, leaders can better handle: Downstream responsibilities Upstream communication Unexpected side streams But when leaders are exhausted, overwhelmed, or depleted, everything becomes harder to manage. Taking care of yourself is not selfish — it is a leadership responsibility. What will you do with what you learned? Consider reflecting on these questions: Is your personal reservoir full or depleted? Are you balancing leadership and management effectively? What downstream challenges require your attention right now? How are you communicating upstream with leadership? What side streams are affecting your team? Small adjustments in awareness can dramatically improve leadership effectiveness. Sometimes leaders benefit from an external perspective. A leadership coach can help identify: Areas where you are thriving Opportunities for growth Strategies for navigating challenges If you're looking for support in your leadership journey, Christie invites listeners to reach out directly. 📧 Email: christie@intentionalitygroup.com Every message is read personally — because leadership conversations matter.

    7 min

  4. MAR 3

    Become an Overachieving Manager Using The Four Streams of Leadership with Dalmo Cirne

    What if leadership isn’t about innate talent—but about preparation? In this episode of Productive Joy, Dr Christie sits down with author, systems thinker, engineer, twin dad, app builder, guitarist (but definitely not a singer!), and leadership expert Dalmo Cirne to explore what it really takes to become an effective leader. Dalmo shares why most new leaders struggle—not because they’re incompetent, but because they’re unprepared. And unlike incompetence, being unprepared is a problem we can solve. This conversation dives into practical leadership frameworks, the importance of explanatory knowledge, and how to align personal fulfillment with professional performance. How to Turn Yourself into an Overachieving Manager Dalmo introduces a powerful framework built around the metaphor of a flowing river. Leadership, like water, moves in multiple directions: Reservoir (Self-Leadership) – Managing yourself first Downstream – Leading your team and delivering results Upstream – Managing communication with your manager Sidestream – Collaborating effectively with peers Instead of motivational stories that “feel good,” Dalmo’s book offers practical, immediately applicable guidance—the kind you keep on your desk, not on a shelf. Incompetent leadership struggles often stem from being unprepared, and that’s a solvable problem. Management isn’t just an art—it’s a craft.It has objective measures: effectiveness and efficiency. But true leadership also requires purpose and fulfillment. Don’t just follow processes—understand why they exist. Without understanding the “why” beneath the “why,” you can’t: Adapt frameworks (Agile, Scrum, Waterfall) Improve systems Become an agent of change Explanatory knowledge gives you flexibility and mastery. Just like steering a car requires constant micro-corrections, leadership requires: Feedback Reflection Course correction No feedback loop = no error correction. Productive joy happens when: The company’s needs Your personal fulfillment Your sense of purpose …overlap enough to create alignment. It doesn’t have to be perfect—but there must be meaningful overlap. Dalmo references Viktor Frankl and his book Man's Search for Meaning, sharing this powerful idea: “The meaning of life is for you to give it meaning.” Leadership—and productive joy—begin with defining what matters to you. Definition of Fun: Getting what you wanted out of the experience. Authenticity: “Always tell the truth—you won’t have to remember which version you told.” Best Self on Worst Days: Own the gap between emotional reaction and external response. One Big Idea: Seek explanatory knowledge. Understand why key things are done the way they are. Individual contributors transitioning into management Newly promoted managers Managers of managers Students preparing for leadership roles Anyone who wants to lead with clarity and confidence Visit: dalmocirne.comThere you’ll find: Book links Essays and articles Scheduling options Social media connections Listening is great—but action creates growth. What will you do with this conversation? Explore explanatory knowledge in your work Evaluate your leadership streams Align your purpose with your role Grab a copy of The Four Streams of Leadership If nothing changes, nothing changes. Turn insight into action—and create your own productive joy. About the BookThe Four Streams of Leadership💡 Key Takeaways from This Episode1. Incompetent vs. Unprepared2. Leadership Is a Craft3. The Power of Explanatory Knowledge4. Feedback Loops Matter5. Productive Joy = AlignmentA Philosophical MomentRapid-Fire Wisdom from DalmoWho Should Read This Book?Connect with DalmoYour Action Step

    35 min

  5. FEB 27

    Leading Human-First to Deliver Results and More From Dan Doerksen

    Today Dr, Christie recaps her conversation with returning guest Dan Doerksen (author of You Can Manage). They explore a people-first approach to management that intentionally translates into measurable team and organizational results. Dan’s five-step management framework moves from self-awareness to strengthening the organization, emphasizing that caring for people must be paired with clear focus on outcomes. Check out Dan’s book: You Can Manage by Dan Doerksen Connect with Christie: Intentionality Group — coaching and organizational support (email: christie@intentionalitygroup.com) Key points & takeaways: - Dan’s five-step framework:   1. Know who you are (self-awareness)   2. Invest in your people   3. Build your team   4. Advance the team’s work   5. Strengthen the organization - Start leadership with the human side, then focus on product/outcomes — not the reverse. - Psychological safety and trust are foundations, but intentionality is required to convert support into results. - Leaders must balance caring for people with clarity about desired outcomes and focused energy toward them. - Repetition and consistency matter: building capability and delivering results is ongoing, not one-off. - Practical leadership question: Are you leading people toward the desired outcomes — product, revenue, or designed team culture? Actionable steps for leaders: - Clarify the specific outcomes your team must deliver. - Pair regular people-focused practices (feedback, development, trust-building) with concrete performance priorities. - Limit competing directions; set and protect focused goals. - Revisit and reinforce the organization-level contribution of your team frequently. #leadershipdevelopment #intentionalleadership #productivejoy #workplaceculture #personalgrowth #professionaldevelopment #leadershipmindset #humancenteredleadership #meaningfulwork #sustainableperformance

    5 min

  6. FEB 24

    You Can Manage with Dan Doerksen

    Today Dr. Christie welcomes return guest Dan Dan Doerksen—leader, coach, systems thinker, dad of twins, and Certified Organizational Design Professional—to discuss his new book, “You Can Manage: A Practical Guide to Becoming the Manager Everyone Wants.” They revisit research showing managers are the key factor in employee experience, noting most new managers receive no training. Dan shares a human-centered framework: (1) Start with you (mindset, self-awareness, engagement, self-regulation), (2) Invest in people (care, trust, feedback), (3) Build the team (team development; role-fit matrix matching interest/ability), (4) Advance the work (systems, workflows, meeting rhythms, decision-making methods; delegate organization if needed), and (5) Strengthen the organization (bridge silos, culture and strategy alignment). Pre-orders are available at youcanmanage.ca; the book ships at the end of March.  Episode Highlights: 00:00 Welcome Back Dan 01:02 Why Managers Matter 04:44 Know Your People 07:53 Lego Blocks Approach 11:43 Defining A Manager 13:46 Framework Start With You 17:27 Practices You Can Do 18:29 Invest in People 19:41 Build the Team 21:15 Role Fit Matrix 23:23 Advance the Work 26:57 Decision Making Systems 28:02 Strengthen the Organization 30:29 Getting People to Buy In 31:43 Where to Find the Book 33:14 Rapid Fire Wrap Up 35:39 Final Takeaways #leadershipdevelopment #intentionalleadership #productivejoy #workplaceculture #personalgrowth #professionaldevelopment #leadershipmindset #humancenteredleadership #meaningfulwork #sustainableperformance A Deeper Dive: In the latest episode of Productive Joy, Christie welcomed back an inspiring guest, Dan Doerksen, a renowned leader, coach, and newly published author. His new book, *You Can Manage*, offers a practical guide to becoming the type of manager everyone aspires to be. Dan emphasizes that great management begins with oneself. It's not just about what you do, but who you are. He introduces the idea of focusing on your mindset and self-awareness as key components to being an effective manager. Reflect on questions like, “How do I want to be experienced by my team?” This self-regulation is fundamental in creating an environment where both you and your team can thrive. Next, Dan discusses the importance of building strong, trusting relationships with your team members. It's essential to truly know your people, understand their needs, and show genuine care. This goes beyond well-meaning intentions to ensuring that your team feels supported and valued. Building trust is not only foundational but crucial in a manager's role. Dan shares that fostering team development is where managers often find both challenge and reward. Teams have the potential to solve complex problems and exceed individual capacities, but they require nurturing. Encouraging a dynamic where team members can share their strengths and take on roles that align with their skills is crucial. The Role Fit Matrix is one tool he suggests for facilitating this alignment and maximizing team efficiency. Management is inherently linked to performance, and advancing the work is a natural extension of building a strong team. Dan emphasizes the importance of structuring work processes, making effective decisions, and fostering an organized environment. Even if organization isn't your strength, recognizing and delegating these responsibilities is part of effective management. Finally, Dan urges managers to think beyond their immediate team and focus on the organization as a whole. Managers act as pivotal links, bridging teams and enhancing overall organizational cohesion. Building networks and fostering collaboration across teams dismantles silos and aligns efforts with broader organizational goals. Dan's framework is a unifying vision of management as an opportunity rather than a burden.

    38 min

  7. FEB 20

    Lead Like You Mean It and More From Amy Chambers

    This Productive Joy recap highlights leadership lessons from Amy Chambers, who wrote The Six Habits of Powerful People and The Seven Virtues of Exceptional Leaders and Habits. The host notes that strong habits enable leaders to practice virtues—an acronym including vision, involve, routines, talk, understanding, encourage, and showcase—and that leadership improves through intentional growth. The episode centers on intentionality: doing things on purpose for a purpose, by design rather than by default.  Listeners are challenged to define what “successful” looks like for an upcoming meeting or event, then take actions aligned to that outcome. The host emphasizes being human-forward—caring for people, knowing and using their talents, and supporting growth—because outcomes improve when humans are supported.  Episode highlights: 00:00 Welcome to Productive Joy + Who Is Amy Chambers? 00:07 Two Leadership Books, Acronyms & the VIRTUE Framework 01:10 Leadership Growth Is Built (Not Automatic) 01:44 Why Productive Joy Exists: Leading Humans with Intentionality 02:16 Intentionality 101: By Design, Not by Default 02:52 This-or-That Examples: Weather, Meetings & Prepping on Purpose 03:34 Be Intentional About Outcomes: Define What “Success” Looks Like 05:18 Human-Forward Leadership: Take Care of People to Improve Results 06:12 Productive Joy Philosophy: Joy That Produces Results 06:43 Call to Action: Share It, Apply It, and Turn Insight into Practice #leadershipdevelopment #intentionalleadership #productivejoy #workplaceculture #personalgrowth #professionaldevelopment #leadershipmindset #humancenteredleadership #meaningfulwork #sustainableperformance A deeper dive: Welcome to the world of Productive Joy, a haven for modern leaders seeking to guide others intentionally and successfully. Today, we delve into Amy Chambers’ significant contributions as a young leader and author who has encapsulated powerful leadership insights in her books: *The Six Habits of Powerful People* and *The Seven Virtues of Exceptional Leaders*. Both books emphasize that control and success are within our reach through habit and virtue formation. Amy’s astute use of acronyms helps make her teachings memorable and actionable. The ‘virtues’ she describes, such as Vision, Involve, Routines, Talk, Understanding, Encourage, and Showcase, are more than words; they are actions to embody, promoting a more virtuous leadership style. According to Amy, establishing robust habits is foundational to reach a level where virtues can be effectively exercised. As leaders, growing and honing our skills requires intentional effort. It involves practicing with purpose, leveraging our natural tendencies while embracing new spaces we find ourselves in. This growth journey leads us to intentionality, a concept I cherish, which means doing things on purpose, for a purpose.  Intentionality can manifest in various ways, such as choosing to be prepared for meetings or adapting to unexpected changes. Whether planning for an upcoming meeting or presentation, intentionality influences our outcomes and defines our perception of success.  Success in leadership is subjective, differing from one person to another. By intentionally defining success before any activity, like meetings or presentations, we align expectations and outcomes. This reflection helps us measure true success by considering individual aspirations and collective goals. Amy’s teachings remind us to prioritize the human elements in our leadership approaches. Recognizing team members’ talents and allowing them to thrive enhances their involvement and boosts overall productivity, ultimately leading to better end products. By focusing on the well-being of our teams, and allowing them to define their own success, we cultivate a more collaborative and effective environment.

    8 min

  8. FEB 17

    Building HABITS Worth Repeating with Amy Chambers

    Today on Productive Joy Dr. Christie interviews leadership expert, coach, author, and speaker Amy Chambers, a recovering people pleaser who has taken 51 cruises and completed 260 half marathons and 12 full marathons after once being unable to run a mile. Amy shares the formative moment that sparked her focus on human-first leadership: at 18, she comforted a coworker, Debbie, who was left devastated when senior executives failed to follow through with promised time, inspiring Amy to prevent “Debbies in break rooms” through better leadership.  She explains her first book, The Seven Virtues of Exceptional Leaders—VISION, INVOLVE, ROUTINES, TALK, UNDERSTANDING, ENCOURAGE, SHOWCASE—highlighting “involve” as a common leadership gap and describing how empowerment drives exponential results. Her second book, Six Habits of Powerful People: Becoming a Happy Human Who Has It All, focuses on personal leadership: honest humility, action, befriending the brain, inspiring oneself, trusting/treasuring oneself, and staying securely strong, with themes like values, boundaries, ditching perfectionism, gratitude, and resisting others’ pushback. Episode Highlights: 00:00 Meet Amy Chambers: Leadership Expert, Coach & Marathoner 00:54 “Everything Is a Choice”: Amy’s 30-Second Life Philosophy 01:36 The Bank Teller Moment That Sparked a Leadership Mission 04:49 Human-First Leadership: Why People Are the Whole Point 05:51 From Framework to Book: The Seven Virtues of Exceptional Leaders 07:18 The VIRTUES Acronym Breakdown (Vision to Showcase) 08:44 Where Leaders Get Stuck: The Power of Involving Your Team 10:43 “That’s Not Fluffy”: Engagement as an Exponential Performance Multiplier 13:03 Why Leaders Don’t Empower: Insecurity, Bad Role Models & the Peter Principle 15:17 From Perfectionism to Real Leadership: Closing the Skill vs Will Gap 15:36 Defining “Productive Joy”: Where Passion, Talent, and Fulfillment Meet 17:53 Book #2 Breakdown: The HABITS Acronym for Personal Leadership 19:06 Boundaries, Values, and Ditching People-Pleasing to Find Work You Love 20:10 Genuine Positivity (Not Toxic): Equipping People to Look for the Good 21:13 Where to Find Amy M. Chambers + The Story Behind the “M” 22:41 Rapid-Fire Q&A: Fun, Authenticity, and Showing Up on Hard Days 25:12 Final Takeaway: You’re the Architect of Your Own Life #leadershipdevelopment #intentionalleadership #productivejoy #workplaceculture #personalgrowth #professionaldevelopment #leadershipmindset #humancenteredleadership #meaningfulwork #sustainableperformance

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Welcome to Productive Joy with Dr. Christie. I'm your host, Christie McMullen, and together we are going to make sure we turn fun into action. How will we do that? By thoughtfully taking AIM. AIM stands for Analyze Improve Move. We're going to analyze the things that you're currently doing that you're like, I probably could find more joy in this. We're going to improve on those things by listening to experts and learning all kinds of new ways to do business. And then we're going to move. It is time to learn and grow together...let's do this.

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  • Creator
    Dr. Christie McMullen
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    268
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    © Dr. Christie McMullen
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