This is the Prophetic Cutting Edge Podcast hosted by Joshua Snope and Phil and Laura Lee Colley, brought to you by Destiny Strategies Prophetic Ministry, where we make it simple to hear God’s voice, to empower you for your purpose. Hey everyone. Welcome to the Prophetic Cutting Edge podcast, where we make it simple to hear God’s voice and empower you for your purpose. I’m your host Joshua Snope with Phil and Laura Lee Collie. Hey, great to be here. So what have you guys been up to? It’s July. What’s been happening? Been to any churches doing any training lately? Uh, yeah, we have Josh. We’ve, uh, we’ve been to a few. Different churches, um, which is what we do on a regular basis. But we’ve been out to Dubbo and we spent a week out there with the church and it was great time out there. Uh, you know, speaking into, there’s, there’s a number of churches there, so we spoken to those different churches and, and ministered to the people out there, which was great. And we were at, um, Wollongong as well, uh, with, there’s a couple of different churches that we work with there and, and we’re ministering at. And uh, and we also by Zoom, we, uh, were introduced to a Kazakhstan, uh, community as well. And, and we were doing more, more, um, more zooms with them, which is exciting. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. We often get a lot of people from all sorts of countries, um, tuning in and joining us on our Zoom, uh, practice nights, don’t we? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, and you also had a conference earlier in the year, in February. Can you tell us just very quickly about that catchy up draft? Yeah, yeah. We, uh, we do a conference on a regular basis. In February and um, yeah, that was exciting. We had a lot of, a lot of people there really enjoyed themselves growing in God, uh, you know, just developing in, in their understanding of who God is. And I think that’s one of the things about the prophetic that really brings things out to people, really getting a better understanding of who God. Mm mm And you also launched a book in that, um, we launched a book in that conference, didn’t we? Uh, can we quickly just talk about that book? ’cause it’s a really good book. The book is called See the Signs and Wonders Through Prophecy Dreams and Numbers. And yes, it is a good, it’s a, it’s a hot book at the moment. Actually, we only printed a hun a hundred. And, and, and they just went and because we did the great book launch and, and now we’ve just done our second edition. Yeah. Yeah. That’s awesome. And I know that there’s so many, uh, uh, powerful things in that book and practical tips, and it’s like a combination of your 20 plus years of experience in prophetic ministry. Jam packed into that book. And I also read a little section at the back as well to do with, uh, hearing God through numbers, so I know if people get the hands on that book, it’s going to be life changing, um, and, and obviously great value as well. So, um, so moving along, um, you know, with this podcast, we’ve called it the Prophetic Cutting Edge. Why, why the name Prophetic Cutting Edge? Well, you know, we wanna be on the cutting edge of what Gord is doing and, and, uh, and so we thought that was a good name. Um, you know, we all wanna be on the cutting edge. We wanna be there where we can, you know, make things. Cut, cut through to what, what’s the truth? Yeah, that’s good. Yeah. And, and yeah, and, and bringing an understanding. We wanna talk a lot about the different prophetic, uh, environments, so to speak, and the, the good, bad and ugly of the prophetic. ’cause there’s been a lot of misunderstanding in the past and, and people have felt they can’t be part of or don’t wanna be a part of anything prophetic. And, and so we wanna bring clarity and understanding and how to have the right guidelines too. To actually bring honor to God and, and maybe bring healing and breakthrough to those areas. Mm. Yeah. And, and there’s also this really awesome picture, um, of an ax. Can you talk about that? Like why would we have a picture of an axe for a podcast? Yeah. So it comes from the story, um, of Elisha of In Two Kings four, where, where, um, you know, the. The, the prophetic companies or the school of prophets there asked him if they could move and, and ’cause they, they were running outta room. They needed more space to grow the prophetic community. And when they moved, uh, one of the guys borrowed an ax from someone and was cutting a tree, but the ax head fell off and went into the, into the water. And he said, oh dear Elisha, this, this, um, this ax has been borrowed. And, and, and now I’ve lost it on the guy. And Elisha, ah, that’s. No big deal. Uh, so he threw a, a stick in and the ax head floated. Wow. And so we are living in it. There. That’s, that’s just so loaded. That story. There’s, there’s so many, you know, there’s 10 different topics we could talk on and that and will in the future. And so being aware of, of the, the time that we are living in and what God wants to activate and create room for and bring an edge to and cause the miracles of, of ease, miracles, of ease. Yeah. Yeah. That’s so awesome. And, and I always wanna add something into that as well about like getting, getting our edge back, getting that prophetic edge back. I think a lot of people, uh, have lost their prophetic edge, and I guess the purpose of this podcast is to help people get that back. Mm. Yeah. So that’s exciting and yeah, for everyone as well. So yes, the prophetic edge is not just for certain people on the platform. Yes. But your prophetic edge. And people of God there. You know, it might look different to some people, but it’s you. There is an edge for you to be in sync with what God is saying and doing. Mm mm Absolutely. Absolutely. Alright, well let’s get into our topic. So our topic for this episode is what’s been misunderstood about the prophetic? So this is going to be a’s a good jam packed episode and so many things to talk about. Yeah. So, Laura Lee, I might start off with you. Um, why do you think so many, many people have the wrong idea about what prophecy is? Yeah, that’s a good question. And I, I, there’s been so many different dynamics, I think we’ve been in with the prophetic ministry for, you know, uh, probably three decades now. And, and, you know, we come into it initially with a, a prophetic community and loved every moment of it. There’s been, we’ve seen a lot of things along the way and seen a lot of, uh, different displays of the prophetic and different understandings and, and sometimes sadly, different controls of the prophetic and, and things that. I’ve been labeled prophetic, but actually haven’t represented the nature of God. So that’s where I think there’s been a misunderstanding or people just being very weary of what this thing of prophecy or prophetic ministry or, um, prophets even that, that it’s like, oh, I don’t think I wanna touch that. That doesn’t look right. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And it’s so important to, um, I guess, address those things and to provide a solution. And I think, you know, part of what we do and what Destiny Strategies is about is, is being that answer, isn’t it? Yeah, definitely. Mm. Phil, what about you? What do you see is, uh, uh, maybe one of the biggest causes of, uh, misunderstanding around prophetic? Uh, I think. Um, I think some of the misunderstandings are created by not having proper boundaries in place that it can be operated in, in a safe way. And, uh, so that brings misunderstanding because people don’t know what they can or shouldn’t do. And so. They step out on what they think this is God, they may not have never had any training and you know, they can cause a lot of damage if it’s not done correctly. And, you know, the, the prophetic is very powerful and, and so that can work for or against in the prophetic and be very powerful and, you know, build people up and empower them and they can, you know, can do great things. Or they can really destroy a person because they’ve brought a word the wrong way in a, in a damaging way. And, and so that creates a lot of misunderstanding. Mm-hmm. Because they haven’t had, the person who maybe delivered that message may not have understood how to deliver it correctly. So it brings misunderstanding and, and misrepresents the nature of God. That’s good. And we’ve had many pastors, many leaders come and say, I want spiritual gifts in my church. I’d love to have prophecy in my church, but every time I do, it just goes wrong. And something doesn’t just, there’s too much to clean up and there’s too much stuff to, um, to handle, and there’s too much misunderstanding. So, you know, I, I think I’ll give, give up how, or, or how can I do this? Well? And so I think as leaders and pastors, ministers, we need to be able to. Give clear instruction of how this looks, that, you know, how do we glorify God in this and, and what are the structures? So we’ve found some churches have been able to introduce protocol and say, our culture is that we, we love the prophetic and we want the prophetic, but it has to be handled in these guidelines. And so, and you know, there’s point people that, that help to, um, to orchestrate that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think you’ve addressed some really important points there about, you know, a lot of people don’t trust the prophetic. Um, but you know, I think you’ve addressed, um, some valid, uh, reasons for that. But I guess it’s important for people not to just, um. Sort of go, oh, you know, that didn’t work, so let’s just not do that anymore. Um, which I think a lot of people seem to have that sort of mindset and, uh, you know, we don’t wanna throw the baby out with the bath water. We want to, we wanna keep the good.
