What does it take to go almost 20 years in real estate without a single broke month? In this episode, Erin sits down with Dan Rochon — real estate veteran, founder of the Consistent and Predictable Income (CPI) Community, host of the No Broke Months podcast, and author of the new book Teach to Sell: Why Top Performers Never Sell — And What They Do Instead. Dan's story starts on his bathroom floor in 2005, the morning he got sober after nearly two decades of struggle. Two years later, a friend's question — "You ever think about real estate sales?" — set him on a path from waiting tables in D.C. to buying the Keller Williams brokerage he worked for, and to a track record most agents only dream of: no broke months since 2008. The best part? Dan insists there's no magic to it. He walks us through the exact framework: waking up every morning "unemployed," spending 1–3 hours a day finding business no matter how busy you get, the 11 activities that actually make you money, and his Teach to Sell method — guiding clients through predictable problems before they happen so you become trusted, wanted, and referred instead of chasing and convincing. If you're tired of the feast-or-famine rollercoaster, this conversation is your way off. Listen in as Erin and Dan discuss: Dan's rock-bottom morning in 2005, getting sober, and discovering real estate as his path to entrepreneurship Why he leaned into the 2008 crash — and how "there's always a reason to look at the suck" The 5 daily activities in your business, the 5 on your business, plus the one habit Dan never skips: visiting his money every morning How to break the feast-or-famine cycle: 1–3 hours a day, 5 days a week, no matter what The four pillars of a business owner — belief, finding business, leverage, and leadership What Teach to Sell really means: consulting clients through predictable problems before they happen (including the home inspection story every agent needs to hear) Why "the circumstances change, the technology changes, but the fundamentals never do" Where to grab Teach to Sell and unlock the four-pillar bonus course (formerly a $10,000 program) About Dan Rochon is on a mission to help 1,000,000 people sell without selling by teaching them how to think through Teach to Sell. Founder of the Consistent and Predictable Income (CPI) Community and host of the No Broke Months for Salespeople podcast, Dan is a master of human behavior, influence, and the psychology of success, and a certified practitioner of Humanistic Neurolinguistic Psychology and Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP). Dan doesn't just teach theory — he lives it. Since 2008, he has maintained a flawless track record of No Broke Months in real estate sales, averaging ten sales a month, all while building and selling a Keller Williams brokerage he led as operating partner for a decade. He is the author of Teach to Sell: Why Top Performers Never Sell — And What They Do Instead and Real Estate Evolution: The Ten-Step Guide to CPI. A TEDx and keynote speaker, his expertise has been featured on The Nightly News with Brian Williams, The Today Show, CNBC, and The Washington Post. How to Connect With Dan Rochon Website: https://www.TeachtoSellBook.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danrochon Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danrochonx/ Podcast: No Broke Months for Salespeople — https://nobrokemonthspodcast.simplecast.com/ Recommended Resources Teach to Sell: Why Top Performers Never Sell — And What They Do Instead by Dan Rochon (released June 23, 2026) — get the book plus the free four-pillar companion course (a former $10,000 program) at https://www.TeachtoSellBook.com Happiness & Fulfillment Assessment: https://pursuingfreedom.com/happiness Pursuing Freedom Collective: https://pursuingfreedom.com/collective Get a copy of Pursuing Freedom on Amazon: https://amzn.to/46o7m7z Subscribe to the Pursuing Freedom podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pursuing-freedom/id1385086390) or Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/59YFf0QJ64o35Wc53JGcbi) for weekly inspiration and strategies.
