Quality Time With MoreSteam

Dan Swartwout
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On Quality Time with MoreSteam, a variety of guests will join host Dan Swartwout to discuss continuous improvement, operational excellence, and business-related issues. You can find new episodes of Quality Time with MoreSteam on moresteam.com.

  1. FEB 3

    Most Meetings Shouldn't Happen with Evan Unger

    On this episode of Quality Time with MoreSteam, Evan Unger joins the show. Evan is the Managing Partner at Schwartz + Associates. He's spent over 30 years helping organizations work together. Evan's held leadership roles at Merck and CommonSpirit Health. One time, he even facilitated the meeting where his own position got eliminated. It's exactly as awkward and fascinating as it sounds. Here's Evan's brutal assessment: most meetings are 30 to 40 percent effective. Maybe. That's a staggering waste. Evan has spent decades figuring out why it happens and how to fix it. He shares a dead simple technique for virtual meetings. It stops the same three people from dominating every conversation. He also explains how to handle the "hippo effect." That's when the highest paid person's opinion shuts down everyone else in the room. This includes the people who actually know what's going on. The conversation covers Evan's career from the GE Workout days to his pandemic pivot. After losing all his work in 2020, Evan spent weeks depressed on his couch. His wife told him to get it together. What happened next involved meditation, mural boards, and a complete business transformation. You'll also hear how Evan signed up for a ten-day silent meditation retreat and what he learned there. Plus, why facilitators create meetings that shouldn't exist and what manila envelopes have to do with continuous improvement. What's the plane flight metaphor for running a kaizen event? Why do leaders get promoted for expertise but fail at collaboration? How do you hold space for the quiet people when the VP is in the room? Find out in this episode. And yes, you'll probably laugh a few times, too.   In this episode, you will hear about: 2:28 - Meet Evan Unger 4:46 - A playoff football cliffhanger! 6:01 - Transformation in big, complex organizations 7:19 - When Evan facilitated his own departure 9:18 - Facilitation as a style of leadership 11:35 - Pivoting from in-person to online 15:59 - Using chat to make online meetings better 18:12 - HIPPO: The Highest Paid Person's Opinion 19:54 - Dealing with the "HIPPO Effect" 22:28 - Humility in leadership 25:13 - Collaboration before everybody was online 28:04 - Meeting mistakes 29:22 - "So many meetings should not be allowed to happen." 29:53 - A Kaizen event is like a plane flight 32:09 - Universal leadership skills 34:19 - How psychology and economics factor into Evan's work 37:23 - Evan's history with meditation 40:46 - Meditation and Evan's approach to leadership 42:42 - Closing thoughts and Evan's program Additional Resources: Evan Unger at Schwartz + Associates Evan Unger on LinkedIn MoreSteam's YouTube Channel Quality Time With MoreSteam on Facebook Quality Time With MoreSteam on Instagram Quality Time With MoreSteam on LinkedIn MoreSteam's Website Subscribe to MoreSteam's Newsletter MoreSteam on LinkedIn Dan Swartwout on LinkedIn The box score of the NFL Playoff Game mentioned in this episode   Subscribe to Quality Time With MoreSteam Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Music YouTube

    46 min

  2. JAN 20

    Daily Management or Daily Chaos with Darren Walsh

    On this episode of Quality Time with MoreSteam, Darren Walsh joins the show. Darren is a Lean leadership coach and author with over 30 years driving transformations across industries like medical devices, aerospace, and healthcare. Oh, and also video games. We definitely talk about video games. Darren wrote the book Making Lean and Continuous Improvement Work: A Leader's Guide to Increasing Consistency and Getting Significantly More Done in Less Time. It's been getting a lot of buzz in the world of Lean. Darren wrote his book after seeing the same struggles everywhere he went. Teams want to improve. But they can't seem to make it stick. There are thousands of certified Green Belts and Yellow Belts, but most organizations still struggle with day-to-day problems. Darren spent years researching why that happens and how to fix it. Darren shares stories from his time at Sega in the 90s. As a member of Generation X, host Dan Swartwout finds this topic especially interesting. Darren also talks about building sustainable improvement cultures as opposed to chasing quick wins. It's a great conversation with one of the foremost leaders in continuous improvement. What should daily management actually accomplish? Why do frontline managers play a bigger role in continuous improvement than most people realize? Learn the answers to these questions and more. And of course, because it's Quality Time with MoreSteam, there are some laughs along the way. Plan. Do. Check. And act by downloading this episode!   In this episode, you will hear about: 1:46 - Darren's background 5:23 - Why Darren wrote Making Lean and Continuous Improvement Work 9:06 - The number one takeaway from Darren's book 11:44 - Continuous Improvement at Sega 16:55 - The first 30 or 60 days at a multi-site transformation 20:16 - Implementing Lean in smaller businesses 22:26 - Frontline managers who spend time on the wrong things 25:18 - Visiting the Gemba with the right mindset 28:50 - Organizations that want to improve but get stuck 33:31 - The standard work of Lean management 37:12 - Darren's next book (and how you can help!)   Additional Resources: Making Lean and Continuous Improvement Work and Darren's Contact Info Darren Walsh on LinkedIn MoreSteam's YouTube Channel Quality Time With MoreSteam on Facebook Quality Time With MoreSteam on Instagram Quality Time With MoreSteam on LinkedIn MoreSteam's Website Subscribe to MoreSteam's Newsletter MoreSteam on LinkedIn Dan Swartwout on LinkedIn    Subscribe to Quality Time With MoreSteam Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Music YouTube

    40 min

  3. JAN 6

    Thomas Paider and Lean Lessons Learned in 2025

    Quality Time with MoreSteam is starting 2026 by bringing back one of the most popular episodes from 2025. Host Dan Swartwout opens the show with a look back at the amazing lineup of guests who joined the show last year, from Shingo Prize winners to Lean Enterprise Institute board members to college professors and healthcare leaders. Then, Dan introduces one of his favorite interviews from last year, the conversation with Thomas Paider. Tom is the co-author of The Lean IT Field Guide and Vice President for Technology Infrastructure and Computing at Nationwide. He also serves on the Board of Directors for LEI. Think about this. Why do so many people think Lean is just about cutting costs? In reality, Lean is so much more. Tom talks about the misconceptions that hold technology teams back and what really changes when leaders focus on moving people to more valuable work. He explains how Lean, Agile, and DevOps actually fit together. He also talks about why leaders should initially focus on changing their own management system. Tom talks about what thriving IT cultures look like. He also explains why visual management matters in the IT sector and how going to see different industries sparks creativity. Tom's profound words are worth hearing again in 2026 as Quality Time with MoreSteam kicks off the new year.   In this episode, you will hear about: 0:15 - Dan looks back on 2025 5:53 - Introducing Thomas Paider 7:20 - Tom's Background 10:34 - Working on Y2K 12:11 - Key Messages from  the Lean It Field Guide 14:05 - The Operational Definition of IT 15:45 - The First Steps in a Lean IT Journey 19:39 - Misconceptions About Lean in the Technology Space 22:05 - Moving People to More Valuable Activities 24:38 - Agile in IT 28:08 - The Early Days of the Lean IT Transformation at Nationwide 30:12 - Advice for IT Teams Starting Their Lean Journeys 32:51 - Learning from Other Industries 35:24 - Overcoming Resistance 37:55 - Lean, Agile, and DevOps 42:18 - Tom's Proudest Moments at Nationwide 44:00 - Peyton Manning 45:02 - The Future of Lean Technology 48:19 - Tom's Experiences as a Runner   Additional Resources: Thomas Paider on LinkedIn The Lean IT Field Guide: A Roadmap for Your Transformation MoreSteam's Website Subscribe to MoreSteam's Newsletter MoreSteam on LinkedIn MoreSteam's YouTube Channel Dan Swartwout on LinkedIn   Subscribe to Quality Time With MoreSteam Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Music YouTube iHeart

    53 min

  4. 12/23/2025

    A Kaizen Carol

    Grant Gemberson just wanted to push that year-end Kaizen event into January and get on with his holiday to-do list. Instead, Gemberson received an unexpected visit from three ghosts: the Ghost of Projects Past, the Ghost of Present Performance, and the Ghost of Future States. (You know where this is going, right?) In this special holiday edition of Quality Time with MoreSteam, host Dan Swartwout shares a Lean Six Sigma twist on a seasonal classic. During this episode, you will follow Grant through conference rooms, Gemba walks, and two very different futures as he confronts his own "we tried that once" mindset. MoreSteam's own Josh Cantie narrates the action. This episode is fun and festive, but it also deals with some important questions. Why do improvements sometimes fade? What counts as real support from leaders? And what does it look like when Kaizen is a daily habit, not just an event on the calendar? It's holiday fun and continuous improvement in one short, special episode. Happy holidays from MoreSteam!!   In this episode, you will hear about: 1:37 - Meet Grant Gemberson 2:31 -  The Ghost of Project's Past  6:33 - The Ghost of Present Performance 8:54 - The Ghost of Future States 11:54 - The Closing Scene   Additional Resources: MoreSteam's Website Subscribe to MoreSteam's Newsletter MoreSteam on LinkedIn MoreSteam's YouTube Channel Quality Time With MoreSteam on Facebook Quality Time With MoreSteam on Instagram Quality Time With MoreSteam on LinkedIn Dan Swartwout on LinkedIn    Subscribe to Quality Time With MoreSteam Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Music YouTube

    15 min

  5. 12/09/2025

    Peg Pennington On Using Lean Management To Drive Strategic Alignment

    On this episode of Quality Time with MoreSteam, host Dan Swartwout shares highlights from a recent MoreSteam webinar with company president Peg Pennington. That webinar was titled "Driving Strategic Alignment with the Lean Management System." It was one of MoreSteam's most anticipated (and successful) webinars of the year. During her presentation, Peg focused on a familiar problem. The strategy seems clear at the top, but the daily work does not match that strategy. In response, Peg explained what it means to treat Lean management as a real system instead of a set of projects. In her view, Lean management is four connected systems. First, the strategy system: setting a true north and choosing the few "big rocks" that really matter. Second, the problem-solving system: using value stream thinking and methods like A3 or DMAIC to turn strategy into real change. Third, the daily management system: leader standard work, huddles, and the daily routines that keep your team from backsliding. And finally, the people system: Go See, Ask Why, Show Respect. In this episode, Peg describes the leadership behaviors that create more problem solvers. Between clips from Peg's webinar, Dan jumps in to recap key takeaways from what you just heard and to set the table for the next clip. Together, they'll show you what it takes to keep strategy, operations, and people moving in the same direction.   In this episode, you will hear about: :22 - Introducing the Lean Management System 4:19 - The Strategy System 9:52 - The Problem Solving System 14:10 - Where to start with the Lean Management System 16:42 - Understand, simplify, automate 21:20 - The Daily Management System 28:35 - The People System 32:21 - Process Improvement in action   Additional Resources: The Full Webinar: Driving Strategic Alignment with the Lean Management System MoreSteam's Library of Webinars MoreSteam's Library of Case Studies MoreSteam's Library of Blogs MoreSteam's Lean Six Sigma Toolbox MoreSteam's YouTube Channel Quality Time With MoreSteam on Facebook Quality Time With MoreSteam on Instagram Quality Time With MoreSteam on LinkedIn MoreSteam's Website Subscribe to MoreSteam's Newsletter MoreSteam on LinkedIn Dan Swartwout on LinkedIn    Subscribe to Quality Time With MoreSteam Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Music YouTube

    33 min

  6. 11/25/2025

    Lessons From Thirty Years of Quality Management with Steve Adams

    Steve Adams brings decades of real experience to Quality Time with MoreSteam. He graduated from West Point and served in the Army Corps of Engineers. Eventually, Steve spent thirty years at Procter & Gamble, where he drove improvement on a global scale. Along the way, Steve even got Deming's autograph. Yes, the W. Edwards Deming! Host Dan Swartwout talks to Steve about solving problems and the commitment to quality. With Steve, you get 30 years of real stories from the plant floor. And one more thing… you'll never guess what classic TV show is referenced in this episode.  After the interview, Dan shares the audio from a recent episode of MoreSteam's Street Stats YouTube series. Street Stats focuses on making business statistics useful and practical. After you're done listening to this episode of Quality Time with MoreSteam, go check out more Street Stats!   In this episode, you will hear about: 1:40 - Steve's background 2:27 - Going to Proctor & Gamble 3:41 - Steve's role in the Total Quality Movement 4:37 - Analytical problem solving 6:45 - Centerlines in manufacturing 12:22 - Meeting W. Edwards Deming 14:21 - Deming's 14 Points 15:40 - Quality products require quality components 16:52 - Steve's time as a consultant 20:05 - Peter Falk, Columbo, and continuous improvement 24:32 - Street Stats on Quality Time With MoreSteam   Additional Resources: The Street Stats Playlist on YouTube MoreSteam's YouTube Channel Quality Time With MoreSteam on Facebook Quality Time With MoreSteam on Instagram Quality Time With MoreSteam on LinkedIn MoreSteam's Website Subscribe to MoreSteam's Newsletter MoreSteam on LinkedIn Dan Swartwout on LinkedIn    Subscribe to Quality Time With MoreSteam Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Music YouTube

    28 min

  7. 11/11/2025

    Dave Harry is The Process Whisperer

    On this episode of Quality Time with MoreSteam, Dave Harry joins the show. Dave is well known throughout the world of continuous improvement as "The Process Whisperer." Before becoming a Lean Six Sigma legend, Dave spent years as a US Navy helicopter pilot. He even gave Paul Newman a helicopter ride! (Yes, the Paul Newman.) As Dave explains, helicopter pilots understand Six Sigma better than most people. When you're flying a million parts in formation and 99.9% success won't cut it, you learn to work for perfection. In his conversation with host Dan Swartwout, Dave walks through his journey from military aviation to major OpEx roles with Northrop Grumman and Rolls-Royce. Toyota Kata also gets serious attention in this conversation. Dave is a self-proclaimed "Kata Geek" who has attended 10 Toyota Kata summits. Additionally, Dave shares what he learned from 15 years of judging ASQ's International Team Excellence Awards. Learn what separates breakthrough teams from box checkers. Want to keep your virtual team engaged? Dave has plenty of tips. Yes, he's having fun and keeping things silly. But when it comes to teamwork and process improvement, Dave is dead serious about getting results. The Process Whisperer makes friends for life wherever he goes. Now it's your turn to become friends with Dave Harry.   In this episode, you will hear about: 1:42 - What it means to be a Process Whisperer 3:13 - Dave's background as a US Navy helicopter pilot 5:32 - The Paul Newman story 7:16 - Dave's academic background 8:46 - Moving to the corporate world 10:02 - Becoming the Process Whisperer 12:59 - Projects that generated big cost savings 16:01 - Opening Process Whisperer Consultants 18:10 - Toyota Kata 24:25 - Post-pandemic challenges for Lean leadership 29:09 - Judging the ASQ International Team Excellence Awards 35:50 - Making friends for life   Additional Resources: Dave Harry on LinkedIn Process Whisperer Consultants The Process Whisperer in Space? MoreSteam's YouTube Channel Quality Time With MoreSteam on Facebook Quality Time With MoreSteam on Instagram Quality Time With MoreSteam on LinkedIn MoreSteam's Website Subscribe to MoreSteam's Newsletter MoreSteam on LinkedIn Dan Swartwout on LinkedIn    Subscribe to Quality Time With MoreSteam Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Music YouTube

    39 min

  8. 10/28/2025

    Change Management That Actually Works with Kim Scibelli

    On this episode of Quality Time with MoreSteam, Kim Scibelli joins the show. Kim is a Lean Six Sigma Black Belt who leads supply chain and operations at AVS Bio. And after coaching teams through transformations for years, Kim has learned that you can't "pizza party" your way to culture change. Why do people say they want things to get better but resist when changes actually happen? Kim talks about identifying blockers at every level and developing strategies to help them get on board. She also discusses the importance of giving teams the freedom to experiment. For example, Kim describes the time she gave a terrified team permission to try something new. That one act of trust led to a new cart design that rolled out across 23 distribution centers. Kim explains the difference between agreement and alignment and why confusing the two can derail change efforts. She also talks about vulnerability in operational excellence and what self-reflection actually looks like for leaders. Of course, host Dan Swartwout once again manages to weave some classic TV into the show. This time, it's Dragnet and The Price is Right. The episode ends with Kim explaining why she stays in change management. Her answer about making work better for people and helping them feel seen and heard is the perfect way to end this conversation. And that's just the facts.   In this episode, you will hear about: 1:52 - Change management is hard 3:17 - Resistance to change 9:10 - Mistakes leaders make when leading change 10:25 - Being self-aware 11:59 - Giving your team the freedom to try something new 15:02 - Change management and being vulnerable 18:12 -  You can't "pizza party" your way to culture change, 24:31 - The difference between agreement and alignment 27:05 - Doing things differently 33:02 - The lasting impact of successful change management   Additional Resources: Kim Scibelli on LinkedIn MoreSteam's YouTube Channel Quality Time With MoreSteam on Facebook Quality Time With MoreSteam on Instagram Quality Time With MoreSteam on LinkedIn MoreSteam's Website Subscribe to MoreSteam's Newsletter MoreSteam on LinkedIn Dan Swartwout on LinkedIn    Subscribe to Quality Time With MoreSteam Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Music YouTube

    36 min
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On Quality Time with MoreSteam, a variety of guests will join host Dan Swartwout to discuss continuous improvement, operational excellence, and business-related issues. You can find new episodes of Quality Time with MoreSteam on moresteam.com.

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