300 episodes

For over 6 years, Brian G. Murphy and Fr. Shannon TL Kearns have shared an LGBTQ perspective on a different Bible passage each week. Most weeks, the show covers a passage from the upcoming Sunday's lectionary but also occasionally covers current event, special themes, and important events like Coming Out Day or Transgender Day of Remembrance. Join tens of thousands of listeners from around the world for the Bible, every week, queered.

Queer Theology Queer Theology / Brian G. Murphy & Shannon T.L. Kearns

    • Christianity

For over 6 years, Brian G. Murphy and Fr. Shannon TL Kearns have shared an LGBTQ perspective on a different Bible passage each week. Most weeks, the show covers a passage from the upcoming Sunday's lectionary but also occasionally covers current event, special themes, and important events like Coming Out Day or Transgender Day of Remembrance. Join tens of thousands of listeners from around the world for the Bible, every week, queered.

    Crafty Myths and Inner Wisdom – 2 Peter 1:16-21

    Crafty Myths and Inner Wisdom – 2 Peter 1:16-21

    In today’s episode, we answer a question from our listener – Charlie, who asked how to live as a gay person and still be Christian? How do you live your life as a queer person without having to constantly rationalize your life against the Bible and what it says about gay folks?
    We also take a look at a Bible passage that we haven’t covered before. We’re very excited to queer this text from 2 Peter 1:16-21. We are reminded by this passage that we are ALL called to do this ministry. That while the physical form of Jesus is gone, the work and movement remain. And it is our responsibility to continue to do the work.
    Episode TranscriptBrian: Welcome to the Queer Theology podcast!
    Fr. Shay: Where each episode, we take a queer look at the week’s lectionary readings. We’re the co-founders of QueerTheology.com and the hosts for this podcast. I’m Father Shay Kearns
    B: And I’m Brian G. Murphy.
    Hello, hello, hello and welcome back. Today is Sunday, February 23rd, 2020 the year just will not quit. Welcome back to the Queer Theology podcast we’re so glad to have you here. Shay, how are you doin?
    FS: I’m good! I’m really good. You know, truckin’ along with the winter and all of that kind of stuff, but…
    B: Familiar!
    FS: Yes! Something I’ve been, I’m obsessed with this new band called Bonny Light Horseman. It’s Anaïs Mitchell who is the writer of Hadestown, joined with a couple of other folk musicians to re envision really, really old traditional songs…
    B: Cool!
    FS: …re-invent and re-record them. I started listening to their album, it came out right before I made my trip to L.A. so I was listening to on the plane. And it is just gorgeous. In a couple places they mash-up a couple of traditional songs and it weaves around — I’m obsessed with it. If you like Anaïs Mitchell, you’ll love this album. If you’re just interested in folk music, it’s high quality. So I’m jazzed about having some new music. I find that that gets me through the winter. [laughter] Having new things to listen to and inspire me is really helpful, so that’s been something that’s been good in my life lately. What about you?
    B: Oh my goodness! I recently went to this thing called Beyoncé Mass which one of my friends from college developed with this seminary professor and some other students from one of their seminary classes. It’s a womanist worship service, how black women find their voice, represent the image of God, and create spaces for liberation. It was possibly the most profound experience I’ve ever had in my entire life. They used all music by Beyoncé or Destiny Child or soundtrack as worship music. And a lot of Beyoncé’s music is very spiritual and talks about the image of the IM and the spirit. It was incredible. So the combination of beautiful music, just phenomenally performed by this amazing band, and choir, and quintet of singers, and the visuals, and they served communion and the sermon about community, and dreams, and vision was phenomenal. It was just like so incredible, and jazzed, and I wept a number of times and my boyfriend, who grew up Christian but no longer goes to church turned to me afterward and was like, “If church was always like this, sign me back up!” It was just really, really cool and I am honored to have gotten to go and be a part of it. It was really cool to be able to meet some of the folks that started it, and had a vision for this, and called this forth to live out of an idea. It started at the church that my friend was an intern in San Francisco, but has since gone to churches and colleges around the country, and wants to live in Portugal. So I don’t know if they have any more scheduled anywhere else, but if you’re interested you can go to BeyoncéMass.com to see some pics and learn some more, but it’s just a really, really, really, really cool. I can’t stop thin

    • 25 min
    Jesus & the Male Gaze – Matthew 5:21-37

    Jesus & the Male Gaze – Matthew 5:21-37

    In this episode of the podcast, we respond to a listener question from Fee in Berlin who asked how LGBTQ Christians who have come to the faith later in life can be sensitive to the trauma that LGBTQ folks who grew up within Christianity carry. 
    We also take a look at Matthew 5:21-37 — a passage about murder, adultery, what happens in our heart, who is responsible, and how to respond. It might be 2,000 years old but it is particularly relevant to our present time and place. Here’s how…
    In this episode we cover:

    updates on the Faithful Sexuality course, our new website, and Shay’s recent Rob Bell workshop [00:50]
    listener question from Fee on LGBTQ Christian trauma [05:15]  
    our queer take on Matthew 5:21-37 [11:52]
    “There is so much in here it could be at least 3 podcast episodes … and a doctoral dissertation” [13:55]
    ways this passage is often misunderstood [15:14]
    how Jesus turns the table on the dominant patriarchy of the day [16:29]
    what this passage has to say about modern purity culture, rape culture, and the male gaze [16:55]
    how this passage was used against LGBTQ people [17:50]
    what “hell” means in this context [18:20]
    defining lust: what it is and what it isn’t  [19:00]
    a reminder that it’s ok to be attracted to someone, to have sexual desires, and to have a fantasy life (and one important thing to remember there) [20:00]

    If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at patreon.com/queertheology
    If you’d like to be featured in future episodes, email your question or Bible passage suggestion to connect@queertheology.com 
    Matthew 5:21-37
    “You have heard that it was said to those who lived long ago, Don’t commit murder, and all who commit murder will be in danger of judgment. But I say to you that everyone who is angry with their brother or sister will be in danger of judgment. If they say to their brother or sister, ‘You idiot,’ they will be in danger of being condemned by the governing council. And if they say, ‘You fool,’ they will be in danger of fiery hell. Therefore, if you bring your gift to the altar and there remember that your brother or sister has something against you, leave your gift at the altar and go. First make things right with your brother or sister and then come back and offer your gift. Be sure to make friends quickly with your opponents while you are with them on the way to court. Otherwise, they will haul you before the judge, the judge will turn you over to the officer of the court, and you will be thrown into prison. I say to you in all seriousness that you won’t get out of there until you’ve paid the very last penny.
    “You have heard that it was said, Don’t commit adultery. But I say to you that every man who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery in his heart. And if your right eye causes you to fall into sin, tear it out and throw it away. It’s better that you lose a part of your body than that your whole body be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to fall into sin, chop it off and throw it away. It’s better that you lose a part of your body than that your whole body go into hell.
    “It was said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a divorce certificate.’ But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife except for sexual unfaithfulness forces her to commit adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
    “Again you have heard that it was said to those who lived long ago: Don’t make a false solemn pledge, but you should follow through on what you have pledged to the Lord. But I say to you that you must not pledge at all. You must not pledge by heaven, because it’s God’s throne. You must not pledge by the earth, because it’s God’s footstool. You must not pledge by Jerusalem, because it’s the city

    • 21 min
    Sex & Love with Sarah – 1 Corinthians 13:4-8

    Sex & Love with Sarah – 1 Corinthians 13:4-8

    This episode is special because we talk to Sarah, one of our Sanctuary Collective members. We talk about what it was like for her growing up with regard to sex and relationships. We also queer a text that Sarah picked from the Bible! 
    In this week’s text, we take a look at a word from 1 Corinthians. We talk about how the text is beautifully used to describe a kind of love that goes beyond sexual orientation and religious affiliation. Join us as we queer this week’s text!
    Episode Transcript
    Brian: Welcome to the Queer Theology podcast!
    Fr. Shay: Where each episode, we take a queer look at the week’s lectionary readings. We’re the co-founders of QueerTheology.com and the hosts for this podcast. I’m Father Shay Kearns
    B: And I’m Brian G. Murphy.
    FS: Hello, hello! Welcome back to the Queer Theology podcast. We are excited to be back with you today. We’ve got a really special podcast coming up today, so we’re stoked about that. But first, Brian, what’s been going on in your world and life?
    B: I just went to Disneyland. My good friend, whom we dated for many years and now we’re just friends – whatever just friends is. He is a Disney nerd and we have annual passes to Disneyland because it’s only $20 a month that you go once. So there’s a new Star Wars ride that just opened, so me, and Matt, and our friend Molly all went down to Anaheim. We got up at the crack of dawn because the way that they do it is that you have to be in the park at the time that it officially opens, at 8:00 AM. Then everyone frantically goes on the app on their phone to try and get a boarding group, and then that’s the digital queue for the ride. So I woke up at 5:00 AM and Matt picked me up at 6:00 AM and we drove to Anaheim and we got in the park with 10 minutes to spare. And then it’s just how fast is your cellphone and how fast are your fingers. So we got on the ride, we didn’t end up getting on until 4:00 PM, we just did all the stuff in the park and we went to the new cantina there. I got this drink that had this foam that made my mouth numb, which was wild. Then the ride was the most amazing ride I’ve ever been in my entire life. I won’t give any spoilers because it’s just incredible. It was so cool! Then we went immediately home and I fell asleep. What about you Shay?
    FS: Yeah, I feel like in Minnesota, the winter — it’s hibernation mode and so I’m taking a lot of time to read books and write some things and relax. I’ve been reading this memoir about Sister Rosetta Tharpe who is this phenomenal and pretty unknown – she was a gospel singer. Started out as a gospel singer from the Pentecostal tradition, but did some cross-over work with blues. She played the electric guitar, she’s really phenomenal, and really was a groundbreaker. Some people call her the founder of rock ‘n roll. She was doing it before anyone else. It turns out that she had relationships with both men and women throughout her life. It’s been really fascinating to learn more about her, learn more about this unknown person who should be really well known. Who is just a phenomenal musician. There’s a great video on YouTube of her playing on a train platform, playing her electric guitar and singing with a group choir backing her. From the early ’60s, late ’50s that’s just wild!
    B: That’s bonkers!
    FS: Go check out. I think it’s the song, Up Above My Head. She’s just phenomenal, so I’ve been enjoying that and looking forward to reading some more books and chilling. Oh and I just joined the YMCA, so I’m super excited to start going and swimming. ‘Coz I got to do some swimming while I was out in LA with Brian and I just loved it. So I was like, “Oh! I’m gonna do this. I think this will be good self-care in Minnesota in winter, to get in a pool and swim.”
    B: So today we have a special guest on our podca

    • 28 min
    What Does God Require? – Micah 6:1-8

    What Does God Require? – Micah 6:1-8

    In this week’s text, we look at a word from the prophet Micah! It’s a favorite passage of ours and we can’t wait to unpack it and see what new things we can illuminate by bringing our queerness to bear on the text!
    Episode TranscriptBrian: Welcome to the Queer Theology podcast!
    Fr. Shay: Where each episode, we take a queer look at the week’s lectionary readings. We’re the co-founders of QueerTheology.com and the hosts for this podcast. I’m Father Shay Kearns 
    B: And I’m Brian G. Murphy.
    B: Hello, hello, hello. Today is Sunday, February 2nd, 2020. It’s episode 314 of the Queer Theology podcast. Oh my gosh, years keep flying by. Welcome back. 
    Shay, what are folks need to know this week?
    FS: Yeah, so just a quick reminder that our Faithful Sexuality course, the registration is open for that. It’s gonna be closing in a week or so, so make sure that you jump on that if you are interested. And as we’ve said before, if you have any questions about the course, if you are discerning whether or not it’s a right fit for you or not, you can feel free to send us an email connect@queertheology.com or reach out in our DMs on any of the social media. 
    We’re happy to discern with you and see if it might be a right fit. We only want people in the course that are super jazzed about being there and think that it’s going to be a good fit. If you’ve been thinking about it or just not sure, wanna talk more about it, reach out to us.
    B: I can’t believe this is our 3rd week talking about this course on the podcast and I am just now realizing that I have not yet said: “Slide into our DMs” [laughter]. So slide into those DMs and we would love to chat more with you about it. And if you are ready to dive in, QueerTheology.com/faithfulsexuality is where you can learn more and sign up. 
    Bada bing bada boom! 
    Before we dive in, just a reminder as always, that this podcast is brought to you by over 125 supporters on Patreon.
    FS: Our Patreons not only help to keep this show on the air but also support all of the free resources that we’re creating and have created over at QueerTheology.com. That stuff like articles, videos, PDF guides, every time we jump on Facebook live, all that is paid for by our Patreon supporters. 
    So thank you, thank you, thank you to all of the people that have supported us on Patreon.
    B: So this week we want to give a shout out to Beatrice and Indigo, who we first met at a Queer Theology meetup here in Southern California and in addition to being supporters of us on Patreon, Indigo was also featured on the podcast at the end of last year. So thank you Beatrice and Indigo.
    FS: If you enjoy this show and want to support it, you can do that for as little as $2/month at patreon.com/queertheology. You can also learn more about why we’re asking for your support in the first place. You can check out. We’ve got some perks over at patreon.com/queertheology.
    B: This week’s question had a lot of backstory and so we’re going to distill it down and summarize it. It works out nicely because we’ve got a variation of this question a number of times over the years. It’s basically this:
    So I’ve found Queer Theology and been exploring the intersections of queerness, and Christianity, and liberation theology. My mind is blown open and this is also awesome, and I want more. I want to dive deeper. And so, should I go to seminary to learn more, and pursue this, and be able to share that with others?
    So Shay, as our resident seminary graduate, [laughter] if folks are jazzed about theology and finding a new fire maybe coming from a different version of Christianity that wasn’t as inspiring or realizing in a sort of scales falling off out of your eyes – Paul style. [laughter] The goodness of the queer gospel is seminary, the right next step, or what should folks be considering? 
    FS: Yeah! So I have

    • 19 min
    Unity In All? – 1 Corinthians 1:10-18

    Unity In All? – 1 Corinthians 1:10-18

    In this week’s text, we look at Paul’s words to the church in Corinth where he stresses unity. Is unity helpful or harmful? How does Paul understand his own role in the early Christian movement? What does it mean for people to work in solidarity with one another while also holding people to a higher standard? 
    Episode Transcript
    Brian: Welcome to the Queer Theology podcast!
    Fr. Shay: Where each episode, we take a queer look at the week’s lectionary readings. We’re the co-founders of QueerTheology.com and the hosts for this podcast. I’m Father Shay Kearns
    B: And I’m Brian G. Murphy.
    FS: Hello, hello, and welcome back to the Queer Theology podcast. It is Sunday, January 26 and we are excited to be back with you for a second version of our new, and revamped, and longer podcast, and so…
    Together: Buckle in!
    B: I can’t believe it’s already the end of January. The time is flying.
    FS: I know! It’s wild! It’s wild! So what’s new in your world, Brian?
    B: It’s still trucking along in trying to figure out my life-career, making all the money work. [laughs] So thank you to everyone who supports Queer Theology making it a little less stressful.
    The website is ready which is wild to me! It’s been a long time coming and I don’t know now if we’re going to find glitches, so if you find glitches on the website please very gingerly let me know about them. There’s almost seven years of QueerTheology.com now. We’ve started with a one-page website. We were like, let’s just see what happens and we just keep adding more and more as ya’ll keep wanting more and more from us. So trying to make sense of seven years of content in a way that is useful to you and gets everything there but is not overwhelming and that nothing got lost in translation has been a challenge. So many spreadsheets , and spreadsheets, and spreadsheets trying to keep track of everything. So if you spot any glitches, let me know. That’s me. What about you Shay? You’re getting ready to come to me!
    FS: Yeah! I’m super excited! I signed up for this 2-day workshop it’s called Something To Say and Rob Bell basically walks through a 2-day communications workshop on how to communicate better. It’s capped at 30 people, so I’m super excited to just be in a really intimate space of other creatives and communicators, and hopefully, learn some tips. I’ve long admired Rob Bell as a public speaker, the fact that he can give a 2-hour or more talk that involves science and deep theology, and never once look at notes is just… it’s just mind-blowing to me. I aspired to that level of ease with both message, and also content, and being.
    So I don’t think he is going to fix my life in the next two days, but I’m certainly hopeful that he will give a push in the right direction.
    I guess I just find him really inspiring the way that he has reinvented his life and his ministry, and his career a couple of times over. I’m just excited to be in the same room as him and kinda soak up that energy for a couple of days. Also, to not be in the tundra of Minnesota for a week and I think I’ll probably be the only person in LA in a tank top and swimming trunks. Everyone else will be in their jackets, but I’ll be like “Not Minnesota”. So I’m pretty stoked about that.
    B: I’m excited for you to bring some of that learning and energy to the work that we’re doing here and just continue taking Queer Theology up it up to the next level. Making it more and more useful and engaging for folks. One of the things we set out to do all those years ago was to engage the head and the heart of theology. It has to be a sound faith, but it also has to be a meaningful faith. That’s what we’re trying to do and I’m excited to see what comes out of your time with Rob Bell.
    FS: Yeah, and you’ve been working on a course for everyone too,

    • 28 min
    The Gospel of Queer Community – John 1:29-42

    The Gospel of Queer Community – John 1:29-42

    In this week’s Gospel we explore Jesus’ invitation to “come and see” and how that might resonate with queer communities.
    In this week’s episode, we unveil our new, longer format podcast! You get more about what we’re up to, hear a listener question, and of course we queer a text! 
    In this episode, we:

    Talk about the new website and what’s coming up with Queer Theology [starting at 0:35]
    Talk about what’s going on in our personal lives [starting at 2:22]
    Answer a reader question about books for young people wanting to know more about sexual identity [starting at 6:19]
    Share about the online community and things that are coming up next [starting at 11:12]
    Queer the Gospel of John and talk about the good news of queer community [starting at 12:13]

     
    If you want to support the Patreon and help keep the podcast up and running, you can learn more and pledge your support at patreon.com/queertheology
    If you’d like to be featured in future episodes, email your question or Bible passage suggestion to connect@queertheology.com (more deets in the ep)
     
    Links Mentioned in this episode:

    Miseducation of Cameron Post by Emily Danforth
    The God Box by Alex Sanchez
    Pride: Celebrating Diversity and Community by Robin Stevenson
    Lumberjanes comic series by Noelle Stevenson, et al.
    When Kids Ask Hard Questions: Faith-Filled Responses for Tough Topics by Bromleigh McCleneghan and Karen Ware Jackson
    Better Nate Than Ever by Tim Federle

     
    Other Podcast Mentioned in this episode:
    Parenting Forward by Cindy Wang Brandt
    Episode Transcript
    Brian: Welcome to the Queer Theology podcast!
    Fr. Shay: Where each episode, we take a queer look at the week’s lectionary readings. We’re the co-founders of QueerTheology.com and the hosts for this podcast. I’m Father Shay Kearns 
    B: And I’m Brian G. Murphy.
    B: Hello, hello, hello! Today is Sunday, January 19, 2020, and today is also the first episode of our newly reformatted Queer Theology podcast. 
    FS: Yay!!! So exciting!
    B: So bear with us as we might hit some road bumps, speed bumps along the way as we dive into this new format, but we’re excited to expand the podcast a little bit, feature some more of you, have extended episodes. So remember, if you would like to be featured on the podcast if you have a question, a topic, a Bible passage that you want us to talk about, email us at connect@queertheology.com. We also have a new website coming up very soon thanks to all of the supporters on Patreon. Shay, what are your thoughts on this new website?
    FS: I am so excited. What we’ve been hearing for quite a long time is that people have had trouble finding things on the website or they’ve been looking for specific resources, and you and I knew that we had created them, but even we couldn’t always find them. So we’re super excited to roll out this new website and it’s really designed to help walk folks through, meet with folks wherever they are on their journey and kind of walk them through the next steps. So there is a really slick homepage that you can kinda select, here’s where I’m at, I’m looking for affirmation. Or I know that it’s okay to be gay, but I wanna figure out how my sexuality, my spirituality interact. Or I’m a religious leader and I need some resources to do that work better. So super excited about that, it’s gonna be really exciting for people. It’s gonna be exciting for us to be able to point you to new stuff and everything’s gonna be right there. It’s gonna be great!
    B: Yeah! I’m excited as well. And also, how’s your January going so far?
    FS: It’s fine. [laughs] It is very cold in Minnesota and Brian you’ve been sending me screenshots of the weather in LA which is not helping. And so that’s making me a little crabby…
    B: Okay, I’m gonna stop doing that.
    FS: Yeah. It’s January Minnesota so things are… yeah, it’s wint

    • 22 min

Customer Reviews

aberrema ,

Emotionally important

Liberation theology for the win.

wisdomoak ,

With gratitude

So, so grateful for the @queertheology community, and the social justice lens @shannontlkearns and @thisisbgm meet the Bible with. It’s a gospel full of good news, and hope in troubled times. Most importantly, their interpretations of biblical text not only leave any one out, but preach the belief that we are all in this together. They’ve helped me find a God I can believe in.

LydiaP95 ,

So Refreshing!

As a lifelong Christian but baby queer, it’s incredibly refreshing to hear deeply faithful people talking about God from a queer perspective. It has really helped me as I grapple with reconciling my sexuality with my conservative upbringing/faith. I love this and love all the content on their website as well.

Top Podcasts In Christianity

Listeners Also Subscribed To