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A podcast about the history of the railways

Rails to Nowhere Simon & Ela

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A podcast about the history of the railways

    E14 - Selling London's Transport

    E14 - Selling London's Transport

    We'd hoped to get this episode out last Monday but due to one of my rats falling ill I've been unexpectdly occupied the last week so we're a little late.
     


    In this episode we are discusing the advertising of the underground, and railways in general, during the 1920s and 30s as they saught to maintain their market against the rise of the motor car. This episode follows nicely on from our last two with Emily and Paul on the branding of London Transport.
     


    To see the visuals for this episode head over to our youtube video here: https://youtu.be/IzljC7TIIlc
     


    Part of the research for this episode stems from an essay written by Simon in pursuit of his MA in Railway Studies from the University of York, so an acknowledgement of the support from Dr David Turner in writing that essay is also due.
     


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    Thanks to our wonderful Patreons who help make Rails to Nowhere happen and especial thanks to our £10 patreon ValkyrieLeamons.
     


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    Our roundtable with History Indoors can be found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te7NtsEiadM


    Ela talks Jersey Railways with Gareth Dennis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7OnwVwiXnQ&t=3890s


     
    Music: Cassette by Infraction https://inaudio.org/track/cassette-synthwave/used under Creative Commons Attribution Unported 3.0 (CC BY 3.0


     
    Bibliography


    Ashford, David. London Underground: A Cultural Geography. Liverpool: Liverpool University Press, 2013.


    Barman, Christian. The Man Who Built London Transport: A Biography of Frank Pick by Christian Barman. Newton Abbot: David and Charles, 1979.


    Barnicoat, John. Posters: A Concise History. Thames and Hudson, 1986.


    Beaumont, Matthew, and Micheal Freeman. ‘Introduction: Tracks to Modernity’. In The Railway and Modernity: Time, Space and the Machine Ensemble, edited by Matthew Beaumont and Micheal Freeman, 13–43. Bern: Peter Lang, 2007.


    Carter, Ian. Railways and Culture in Britain. Manchester: Manchester University Press, 2009.


    Church, Roy. ‘Mass Marketing Motor Cars in Britain before 1950: The Missing Dimension’. In Rise and Fall of Mass Marketing, 36–57. London: Routledge, 2015.


    Cole, Beverley, and Richard Durack. Railway Posters 1923-1947. London: Laurance King Publishing, 1992.


    Dendy Marshall, C.F., and R.W. Kidner. History of the Southern Railway. Shepperton: Ian Allan, 1963.


    Divall, Colin. ‘Civilising Velocity: Masculinity and the Marketing of Britain’s Passenger Trains, 1921-1939’. Journal of Transport History 32, no. 2 (2011): 164–91.


    Flood, Catherine. ‘Pictorial Posters in Britain at the Turn of the Twentieth Century’. In London Transport Posters: A Century of Art and Design, edited by David Bownes and Oliver Green, 15–36. Aldershot: Lund Humphries, 2008.


    Foxell, Clive. The Metropolitan Line. Stroud: The History Press, 2010.


    Frost, Lona. Railway Posters. Oxford: Shire Library, 2012.


    Green, Oliver. ‘Appearance Values: Frank Pick and the Art of London Transport’. In London Transport Posters: A Century of Art and Design, edited by David Bownes and Oliver Green, 37–62. Aldershot: Lund Humphries, 2008.


    Green, Oliver. Frank Pick’s London: Art Design and the Modern City. London: V&A Publishing, 2013.


    Harrison, Shirley, and Kevin Moloney. ‘Comparing Two Public Relations Pioneers: American Ivy Lee and British John Elliot’. Public Relations Review 30, no. 2 (2004): 205–15.


    Hawkes, Irene. A History of the Metropolitan Railway & Metro-Land. Manchester: Oxford Publishing Co, 2018.


    Haywood, Russell. ‘Railways, Urban Form and Town Planning in London; 1900-1947’. Planning Perspective 12, no. 1 (1997): 37–69.


    Honor Oak Local History Project. A Street Door of Our Own: A Short History of Life on an LCC Estate by Local People from the

    • 1 hr 8 min
    E13b - A Brand for London Part 2 (with Roundel Round We Go)

    E13b - A Brand for London Part 2 (with Roundel Round We Go)

    Join Simon, Emily and Paul for the second instalment of their discussion of the branding and corperate design of London Trasport that emerged in the first half of the 20th Century and still defines London's image to this day


     
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    Our roundtable with History Indoors can be found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te7NtsEiadM 
    Ela talks Jersey Railways with Gareth Dennis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7OnwVwiXnQ&t=3890s 



     
    Thanks to our wonderful Patreons who help make Rails to Nowhere happen and especial thanks to our £10 patreon ValkyrieLeamons.


     
    Follow Simon at: www.twitter.com/reddragontweets


     
    Music: Cassette by Infraction https://inaudio.org/track/cassette-synthwave/used under Creative Commons Attribution Unported 3.0 (CC BY 3.0)


     
    Bibliography avalible for free on patreon https://www.patreon.com/posts/96041961

    • 1 hr 15 min
    E13a - A Brand for London Part 1 (With Roundel Round We Go)

    E13a - A Brand for London Part 1 (With Roundel Round We Go)

    In this episode Simon is joined by Emily and Paul from Roundel Round We Go as they kick off what's ended up as two episodes on the branding and design of London Transport


     
    Follow the podcast on Twitter, www.twitter.com/railstonowhere and Instagram www.instagram.com/railstonowhere
     
    Follow Roundel Round We Go on Twitter www.twitter.com/RoundelRoundPod and Instagram www.instagram.com/roundelroundpod/ 


     

    Follow Simon at: www.twitter.com/reddragontweets
     

    Our roundtable with History Indoors can be found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te7NtsEiadM 
    Ela talks Jersey Railways with Gareth Dennis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7OnwVwiXnQ&t=3890s 


     
    Support the Podcast through our Patreon and get bonus episodes, behind the scenes content and more: www.patreon.com/railstonowhere 


     
    Thanks to our wonderful Patreons who help make Rails to Nowhere happen and especial thanks to our £10 patreon ValkyrieLeamons.


     
    Music: Cassette by Infraction https://inaudio.org/track/cassette-synthwave/used under Creative Commons Attribution Unported 3.0 (CC BY 3.0)
     
    Bibliography avalible for free on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/posts/96041961

    • 42 min
    Bonus 4 - Frank Pick & Lord Ashfield [PREVIEW]

    Bonus 4 - Frank Pick & Lord Ashfield [PREVIEW]

    Support the Podcast through our Patreon and get bonus episodes, behind the scenes content and more: www.patreon.com/railstonowhere
    Thanks to our wonderful Patreons who help make Rails to Nowhere happen and especial thanks to our £10 patreon ValkyrieLeamons.
    Music: Cassette by Infraction https://inaudio.org/track/cassette-synthwave/ used under Creative Commons Attribution Unported 3.0 (CC BY 3.0)

    • 17 min
    E12 - New Works Program Part 2: Buses and Trams

    E12 - New Works Program Part 2: Buses and Trams

    Show notes
    In this episode we are back on the road as we talk about how the LPTB sought to adapt its Tram and bus systems to the changing needs of London over this period.
    Follow the podcast on Twitter, www.twitter.com/railstonowhere and Instagram www.instagram.com/railstonowhere
    Support the Podcast through our Patreon and get bonus episodes, behind the scenes content and more: www.patreon.com/railstonowhere
    Thanks to our wonderful Patreons who help make Rails to Nowhere happen and especial thanks to our £10 patreon ValkyrieLeamons.
    Follow Simon at: www.twitter.com/reddragontweets
    Music: Cassette by Infraction https://inaudio.org/track/cassette-synthwave/ used under Creative Commons Attribution Unported 3.0 (CC BY 3.0)
    Bibliography
    Baker, Michael. London Transport in the 1930s. Hersham: Ian Allan, 2007.
    Baker, Michael. London Transport. Oxford: Shire, 2016.
    Baker, Michael. London Transport 1933-1962. Shepperton: Ian Allan, 1996.
    Cowderoy, J. E., and J. H. Benford. ‘The Co-Ordination and Development of Road Transport’. In Staff Meetings Session 1937-38, 1–22. London: London Passenger Transport Board, 1938.
    Forman, Jay. ‘What Happened to London’s Trams’. Jay Forman Youtube Channel, 2018. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji3C_PjJonM.
    Glazier, Ken. London Buses Before the War. Harrow Weald: Capital Transport, 1995.
    Green, Oliver. London Buses. Stroud: Amberley, 2019.
    Harley, Robert. LCC Electric Tramways. Harrow Weald: Capital Transport, 2002.
    ———. Lord Ashfield’s Trams: How London Lost a World Class Tramway System. Harrow Weald: Capital Transport, 2015.
    Kevin Tennent and David Turner. ‘The Transport Tavern: Trams & Pacers, with Kevin Tennent’. Dr David Turner You Tube Channel, 18 May 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvAe62mdpPE&list=PLeKnFHihTV5rj6FLgNoLcqRwQoXSs5YsI&index=13&t=2773s.
    Law, Michael John. ‘“The Car Indispensable”: The Hidden Influence of the Car in Inter-War Suburban London’. Journal of Historical Geography 38 (2012): 424–33.
    Law, Michael John. The Experience of Suburban Modernity: How Private Transport Changed Interwar London. Manchester: Manchester University Press, 2014.
    London Passenger Transport Board. ‘Fifth Annual Report and Statement of Accounts and Statistics for Year Ended 30 June 1938’. London Passenger Transport Board, 1938. LT000237/026. TfL Corporate Archive.
    LPTB. ‘First Annual Report and Statement of Accounts and Statistics for the Year Ended 30 June 1934’. London Passenger Transport Board, 1934. LT000146/001. TfL Corporate Archive.
    LPTB. ‘Fourth Annual Report and Statement of Accounts and Statistics for the Year Ended 30 June 1937’. London Passenger Transport Board, 1937. LT001011/004. TfL Corporate Archive.
    LPTB. ‘Frank Pick: Correspondence, Minutes and Memoranda Concerning Development Proposals’. London Passenger Transport Board, 1940 1935. LT000475. TfL Corporate Archive.
    LPTB. ‘Second Annual Report and Statement of Accounts and Statistics for the Year Ended 30 June 1935’. London Passenger Transport Board, 1935. LT001011/002. TfL Corporate Archive.
    LPTB. ‘Sixth Annual Report and Statement of Accounts and Statistics for the Year Ended 30 June 1939’. London Passenger Transport Board, 1939. P.P.1111.la. British Library.
    LPTB. ‘Third Annual Report and Statement of Accounts and Statistics for the Year Ended 30 June 1936’. London Passenger Transport Board, 1936. LT000237/024. TfL Corporate Archive.
    Oakley, E. R., and C. L. Withey. Improving London’s Trams 1932-7. Broxborurne: LRTA Publications, 1988.
    Tennant, Kevin D. ‘The Vulnerability Paradox: The Illusion of Permanence in the UK Public Transport Industry’. In Transport and Its Place in History: Making the Connections, edited by David Turner, 53–76. Abingdon: Routledge, 2020.
    Wright, Daniel. ‘A Station of Two Halves (Southgate Underground and Bus Stations, London, UK)’. The Beauty of Transport, 2015. https://thebeautyoftransport.com/2015/08/05/a-station-of-two-halves-

    • 1 hr 14 min
    E11 - New Works Program Part 1 - The Underground

    E11 - New Works Program Part 1 - The Underground

    Show Notes
    In this episode Simon and Ela are talking all things Underground as we move into the expansion of the LT network during the 1930s. Known as the “New Works Programme” this set of works was the principle project of the LPTB during its existence and would see the Underground become, for the first time an integrated network and reach its arms out into even more of London’s suburbs.
    Follow the podcast on Twitter, www.twitter.com/railstonowhere and Instagram www.instagram.com/railstonowhere
    Support the Podcast through our Patreon and get bonus episodes, behind the scenes content and more: www.patreon.com/railstonowhere
    Thanks to our wonderful Patreons who help make Rails to Nowhere happen and especial thanks to our £10 patreon ValkyrieLeamons.
    Follow Simon at: www.twitter.com/reddragontweets
    Music: Cassette by Infraction https://inaudio.org/track/cassette-synthwave/ used under Creative Commons Attribution Unported 3.0 (CC BY 3.0)
     
     
     
     
    Bibliography
    Abbott, Joshua. Tube Station Anthology 1924-1961. Art Deco Magpie, 2022.
    Badsey-Ellis, Antony. The Hampstead Tube: A History of the First 100 Years. Harrow: Capital Transport, 2007.
    Baker, Michael. London Transport in the 1930s. Hersham: Ian Allan, 2007.
    Barker, Theo. A History of London Transport: Passenger Travel and the Development of the Metropolis, Vol. 2, the Twentieth Century to 1970. 2 vols. Allen & Unwin, 1974.
    Barman, Christian. The Man Who Built London Transport: A Biography of Frank Pick by Christian Barman. Newton Abbot: David and Charles, 1979.
    Beard, Tony. By Tube Beyond Edgware. Harrow Weald: Capital Transport, 2002.
    Blake, Jim, and Jonathan James. Northern Wastes. Palmers Green: North London Transport Society, 1989.
    Croome, Desmond. ‘Services Proposed for 1935-1940 New Works Program: Bakerloo, Central and Metropolitan Lines’. Underground News, Hemel Hempstead, October 1993.
    Croome, Desmond, and Alan Jackson. Rails Through the Clay: A History of London’s Tube Railways. 2nd Edition. Harrow Weald: Capital Transport, 1993.
    Durning, Stephen. London Underground Stations. Harrow Weald: Capital Transport, 2010.
    Forman, Jay. ‘The Unfinished Northern Line’. Jay Forman Youtube Channel, 2009. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjuD288JlCs.
    Fowler, James. London Transport: A Hybrid in History 1905-1948. Bingley: Emerald Publishing Limited, 2019.
    Foxell, Clive. The Metropolitan Line. Stroud: The History Press, 2010.
    Hawkes, Irene. A History of the Metropolitan Railway & Metro-Land. Manchester: Oxford Publishing Co, 2018.
    Horne, Mike. The Piccadilly Tube: A History of the First 100 Year. Harrow: Capital Transport Publishing Ltd., 2007.
    Jackson, Alan. London’s Metropolitan Railway. London: David and Charles, 1986.
    Lawrence, David. Bright Underground Spaces: The Railways Stations of Charles Holden. Harrow Weald: Capital Transport, 2008.
    ———. The Moving Metropolis: A History of London’s Transport Since 1800. Edited by Sheila Taylor. Second. London: Laurence King Publishing, 2015.
    Lee, Charles. The Bakerloo Line: A Breif History. London: London Transport, 1973.
    London & North Eastern Railway. ‘Proposed Electrification of Great Northern Suburban Area’. London & North Eastern Railway, 1931. Rail 390/263. National Archive.
    London Passenger Transport Board. ‘Estimated Population North and South of the Thames 1940 and 1950’. Frank Pick: Correspondence, Minutes and Memoranda Concerning Development Proposals. London Passenger Transport Board, 1939. LT000475. TfL Corporate Archive.
    ———. ‘Estimated Traffic and Financial Results of Proposed Extension from Edgware to Elstree’. Northern Extension - London And North Eastern Railway Company and Northern Line. London, 1934. LT000254/405. TfL Corporate Archive.
    ———. ‘First Annual Report and Statement of Accounts and Statistics for the Year Ended 30 June 1934’. London Passenger Transport Board, 1934. LT000146/001. TfL Corporate Archive.
    ———. ‘Fourth Annual Report and Statement

    • 1 hr 22 min

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