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Exploring Bible interpretation and modern Christian faith, I am a Presbyterian USA minister who interprets the Bible in all of its messy and varied voices. I teach and preach spiritual growth to people who want an open and affirming Christianity. My social media tagline is "People say lots of things about the Bible that aren't really there."  My full-length sermons and live stream are available on YouTube: @robchrist8999 and @edmondspresbyterian132Contact me at: epc-pcusa.org, pastorepc@frontier.com

  1. 6D AGO

    A God Who Listens and Changes: Rethinking Immutability and Impassibility - Exodus 34:1 and 34:28

    Send a text In this episode, we explore the nature of God through the story of Moses receiving the law on Mount Sinai, highlighting God's willingness to listen, change, and negotiate rather than rule as a dictator. As an affirming Christian and PCUSA ministry leader, I delve into how this narrative illustrates inclusive Christianity and challenges traditional views of God's immutability and impassibility. We journey through detailed Bible interpretation to understand God's relationship with humanity, emphasizing that faith in the modern Christian context involves partnership and dialogue with God. Discover how these ancient stories inform contemporary spirituality and the embodiment of God in Jesus Christ during the Transfiguration. This discussion aims to deepen understanding of an open, affirming faith embracing the messiness and complexity of scripture and life. Previous episodes:  Calvinism vs. Reality: Determinism and Probablity, S1E17, Jan 18, 2025 Theology of Nonsense: Questioning Systematic Theology and Calvinism, S1E73, Nov 29, 2025 Exploring Free Will and Complexity: Hope for a Modern Faith, S2E7, Feb 14, 2026

    28 min

  2. FEB 21

    "Go and Sin No More": Rethinking an Often Misused Bible Verse – John 8:11

    Send a text In this episode, we delve into the complex interpretation of the story of the woman caught in adultery, a passage often misunderstood and misused by Christians. As part of my work in affirming Christianity and inclusive Christian faith, I explore how this woman's story has been subjected to abuse—both in the original context and through modern misapplication. We examine the history of this passage, including its selective inclusion in the Gospel of John, and challenge the traditional evangelical use of Jesus' words "Go and sin no more" as a tool for shame rather than mercy. There are many verses that show that God's mercy is not conditional on repentance. Join me, a Presbyterian USA minister committed to thoughtful Bible interpretation and spiritual growth, as we reframe this verse to uphold compassion and reject evangelical cruelty. This episode offers fresh insights into modern Christian faith and encourages a more inclusive and affirming approach to scripture. The woman caught in adultery was an abused woman. And we keep just abusing her. And it is time to stop doing it. We have no idea why she was singled out and why the man was not also accused, but this tells a lot about the motives of the Pharisees in the story. I review the history of the passage, which was not part of the Gospel of John in the early church. Verse 11 where Jesus tells the woman to "Go and sin no more" is used by Christians today to shame people and to hold sin over people's heads. But it doesn't make sense for Jesus to say this as admonishment rather than an act of mercy. There are many verses that show that God's mercy is not conditional on repentance. To use this verse as admonishment is essentially abusing the woman again. It is an act of evangelical cruelty. I explain why we must reframe the way this verse is used.  Previous episode: S1 E19 Jan 24 2025 The Abused Woman in John 8:1-11 Theories of why Jesus said Go and sin no more to the woman: Modern evangelical: Admonishment. He meant her individual sin had caused the situation and that the way to redemption is repentance and renouncing her sin. Doesn't fit the paralytic man story.Ancient contextual: Protection. He told her to stay away from the abuser (the unknown man) and the Pharisees, because they were using her. Does fit the paralytic man story.Textual Negotiation: Compromise. This verse was added to allow John 8:1-11 to be included in the canon. Church Fathers feared the story was too merciful and that adding the admonishment would be a clear rebuke of her sin. Classical slut shaming. This does not explain the paralytic man story.Community reconciliation: He told her to return to purity. Continuous and general admonition for all people in Christ. Makes sense for Jewish purity laws, but contextually weird because it is said only to the two most pathetic characters in the Gospels.

    27 min

  3. FEB 14

    Exploring Free Will and Complexity: Hope for Modern Faith

    Send a text In this episode, we delve into the challenging questions surrounding free will and its role in inclusive Christianity. As an affirming Christian and PCUSA minister, I explore the intersection of modern science, theology, and spirituality, particularly how complex systems and uncertainty in physics offer new hope beyond determinism. We examine the surprising alignment between extreme Calvinist theology and reductionist scientific views, both of which challenge traditional ideas of free will. Drawing from notable works and recent physics discoveries, this discussion aims to deepen our understanding of Bible interpretation and spirituality within a modern Christian faith context. Join us as we seek a fresh perspective on free will that embraces complexity and affirms an inclusive Christianity. Resources: "The Truth Physics Can No Longer Ignore The fundamental nature of living things challenges assumptions that physicists have held for centuries." By Adam Frank, in The Atlantic, December 15, 2025 Brian Greene, "Until the End of Time: Mind, Matter, and Our Search for Meaning in an Evolving Universe", 2020. Margaret Wheatley, " Who Do We Choose To Be?, Second Edition: Facing Reality, Claiming Leadership, Restoring Sanity", 2023.  Wikipedia article on "Complex Systems": The 2021 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded to Syukuro Manabe, Klaus Hasselmann, and Giorgio Parisi for their work to understand complex systems.

    39 min

  4. FEB 7

    Inclusive and Affirming Jesus-Centered Ministry with Pastor Bethany Nass Cseh

    Send a text Join me on the Real Bible Rob podcast as I welcome Pastor Bethany Nass Cseh, co-pastor of Arcata United Methodist Church and Catalyst Church Humboldt. In this episode, we dive into her inclusive and affirming approach to ministry that centers on a Jesus-centered faith. Pastor Bethany shares her unique storytelling style that brings the stories of Jesus to life in an accessible way, encouraging spiritual growth and deeper understanding through Bible interpretation. Additionally, she discusses her experiences as a foster and adoptive parent and the inspiration behind her books "Stepping Into Advent" and "Stepping Into Lent," which provide daily reflections driving spiritual reflection during key Christian seasons. Whether you're exploring inclusive Christianity or seeking insights into modern Christian faith and spirituality, this episode offers heartfelt perspectives and practical inspiration.

    54 min

  5. JAN 30

    Misreading Scripture for Fascist Ideology - Assault on Empathy Romans 13 & Jeremiah 17

    Send a text In this episode, we dive deep into the critical examination of how scripture, specifically Romans 13:1-7 and Jeremiah 17:9-10, can be misread to support fascist ideology. Through an affirming Christianity lens, we challenge these interpretations while emphasizing inclusive Christianity and the importance of nuanced Bible interpretation in modern Christian faith. Drawing on insights from theologians like Bonhoeffer and Barth, and historical documents such as the Barmen Declaration, this discussion aims to empower listeners to engage thoughtfully with scripture. We also reference Jonathan Rauch's article "Yes, It's Fascism" to provide a contemporary context. Join us as we explore how the Bible supports spiritual growth and social justice, aligning with the mission of PCUSA ministry to foster open and affirming Christian communities. This is a follow up to my podcasts: Pastors and Fascism, Romans 13:1-7 & Jeremiah S1E36, March 22, 2025 War on Empathy, 2 Corinthians 1:3-7, Psalm 103:13 S1E53, July 16, 2025 Jonathan Rauch “Yes, It’s Fascism” The Atlantic, January 25, 2026

    37 min

  6. JAN 24

    Christian Nationalism in Military Chaplaincy with Leigh Larson @followtheleighder

    Send a text In this episode, we explore the complex intersection of Christian Nationalism and military chaplaincy with Leigh Larson, a theologian and former USAF Reserve Chaplain Corps candidate. Leigh discusses how Christian Nationalism, often aligned with conservative evangelical theology, influences the military chaplaincy and the spiritual care available to service members. We examine the theological origins of this movement, its impact on ministry within the armed forces, and why this approach is neither truly Christian nor patriotic. As an advocate of inclusive Christianity and affirming Christianity, Leigh expands on the challenges faced by those seeking spiritual guidance in a context often shaped by exclusionary beliefs. Drawing on her Master's thesis and ongoing work, this episode also touches on modern Christian faith and the need for nuanced Bible interpretation to support a more inclusive and affirming spirituality. Tune in for a thoughtful and critical discussion relevant to PCUSA ministry, mainline Christianity and beyond.

    51 min

  7. JAN 17

    Why Hold to Original Sin in Affirming Christianity? Romans 5:12

    Send a text In this episode of Real Bible Rob, we explore one of the most contentious issues in Christianity: the doctrine of Original Sin and its evolution into Total Depravity within Protestant theology. As an affirming Christianity podcast, we challenge traditional views rooted in Roman Catholic dogma and examine how these ideas have influenced modern Christian faith and Bible interpretation, especially in reformed PCUSA ministry contexts.  We discuss how Original Sin, originally a control mechanism, transformed through concepts like Imputed Sin in Calvinism, reflecting on its role at the heart of the Reformation. This episode aims to foster inclusive Christianity by proposing a shift from Original Sin to Original Grace and Original Blessing, encouraging spiritual growth and a more open understanding of scripture. Join us for an insightful conversation that blends history, theology, and spirituality, helping you navigate and possibly transcend these long-standing doctrines in pursuit of a more affirming and inclusive Christian belief system.

    24 min

  8. JAN 10

    Missional Inclusive Church: Modern Christian Faith with Rev. Dawie De Koker

    Send a text In this episode, I sit down with Rev. Dawie De Koker, Senior Pastor at Aurora Community Church Nazarene, to explore what it means to embody affirming Christianity and the missional nature of the inclusive church. Drawing from his Wesleyan roots in predominantly Reformed cultures, we discuss how these theological traditions shape a modern Christian faith that embraces diversity and spiritual growth. As a PCUSA minister myself, I reflect on my personal connections to the Nazarene church and how these shared values influence our collective understanding of faith today. Join us as we delve into Bible interpretation and inclusive Christian spirituality that invites all to participate in God's mission, bridging traditions across South Africa, Germany, and Washington state.

    59 min
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Exploring Bible interpretation and modern Christian faith, I am a Presbyterian USA minister who interprets the Bible in all of its messy and varied voices. I teach and preach spiritual growth to people who want an open and affirming Christianity. My social media tagline is "People say lots of things about the Bible that aren't really there."  My full-length sermons and live stream are available on YouTube: @robchrist8999 and @edmondspresbyterian132Contact me at: epc-pcusa.org, pastorepc@frontier.com

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