Real Estate for Breakfast

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“Real Estate for Breakfast” is a Chicago-centric commercial real estate podcast presented by McGuireWoods. Hosted by Phil Coover, a partner at McGuireWoods, the podcast features conversations with industry leaders including developers, property management professionals, brokers, attorneys, investors, visionaries, tenants, tenant representatives, and business owners. The show delivers thoughtful commentary on current real estate issues, explanations of sophisticated real estate challenges, and insights on emerging trends—all at the intersection of real estate business and law. Phil leverages his experience as both a licensed attorney and real estate managing broker in Illinois to translate complex issues into engaging discussions about real estate, business, and life. McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public affairs solutions to corporate, individual, and nonprofit clients worldwide for more than 200 years collectively. Our commitment to excellence in everything we do gives our clients a competitive edge in everything they do. Our law firm, over its 186-year history, has earned the loyalty of our many long-standing clients with a deep understanding of their businesses, and broad skills in corporate transactions, high-stakes disputes, and complex regulatory and compliance matters. To learn more about our discussions, please email host Phillip Coover at pcoover@mcguirewoods.com or visit our website at mcguirewoods.com. This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

  1. 5D AGO

    The Data Center Revolution, with Greg Riegle and Chris Lloyd

    Everyone is talking about Data Centers. Recently, host Phil Coover mentioned that he was doing a podcast about data centers. “Do you think that this data center thing is a big bubble?” someone asked. “No,” he replied. “That implies that the demand will somehow go away, causing it to pop. This demand isn’t going away.” In order to break down what is really happening in Data Centers, Phil invited two McGuireWoods’ colleagues with decades of experience in data center real estate, incentives, and government affairs: Greg Riegle, co-leader of the Real Estate Transactions Group and head of its data center practice, and Chris Lloyd, senior vice president and director of Infrastructure and Economic Development at McGuireWoods Consulting. “I don't know that there's been a more – pick your adjective – ‘interesting,’ ‘dynamic,’ or ‘challenging’ time with respect to the data center industry,” Greg says. Tune in for the panelists’ insights about the data center epicenter in Virginia, factors that a community must take into account when inviting a data center (like water consumption), and communities that are navigating the opportunity, like DeKalb, Illinois. Connect and Learn More☑️ Greg Riegle | LinkedIn ☑️ Chris Lloyd | LinkedIn ☑️ Phil Coover | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    42 min

  2. FEB 18

    When Great Minds and Believers Collaborate: Chicago’s Metropolis Pointe, with JC Griffin and Jim Rylowicz

    An innovative mixed-use development in Chicago’s Bronzeville neighborhood is being led by a collaboration of “great minds” and a “family that believes in a greater Chicago.” That’s how JC Griffin explains Metropolis Pointe. The family that believes is his family-governed Griffin Venture Group. The great minds include Jim Rylowicz, VP and general manager at CenTrio, a provider of sustainable energy solutions. Host Phil Coover invites them both to discuss the project in this episode. JC describes Metropolis Pointe as a sustainable project that the community, environment, and Earth can be “happy about for generations.” Jim recalls listening to JC’s pitch and realizing that Metropolis Pointe aligns with how CenTrio thinks about energy. “And given that alignment, it was a no-brainer to keep the conversation going.” Tune in to this conversation to hear why Axios selected Metropolis Pointe one of Chicago’s top projects for 2026. Connect and Learn More☑️ Jim Rylowicz | LinkedIn ☑️ CenTrio | LinkedIn ☑️ JC Griffin | LinkedIn ☑️ Griffin Venture Group | LinkedIn | Instagram ☑️ Phil Coover | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    44 min

  3. 12/22/2025

    Guiding Office Tenants in Today’s Challenging Market, with Melissa Copley

    Drawing on extensive experience navigating major shifts in the commercial real estate market, Melissa Copley reflects on her practice with McGuireWoods partner and host Phil Coover. Now vice chairman at Newmark in Chicago, where she represents large tenants of office space in major metropolitan areas, Melissa highlights the impact of today’s economic and geopolitical conditions. As tenants consider issues of economic uncertainty and occupancy, they tend to put off decision-making. “I always like to have my clients start early, especially now. It is a shrinking pool of good alternatives,” she says. Tune in for other insights, including why AI can’t replace strategic brain power, what happens when premier space goes vacant, and what strong tenants are looking for in amenities. Spoiler: It’s beyond just a fitness center.  Connect and Learn More☑️ Melissa Copley | LinkedIn ☑️ Newmark | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | X ☑️ Phil Coover | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    40 min

  4. 11/04/2025

    When You Construct Buildings and Build Relationships, with John Slaten

    Slaten Construction is a “service company for building relationships,” explains founder and CEO John Slaten. And because building relationships is a core value, the company enjoys repeat business from customers with projects ranging from a $400 million data center to a $50,000 office remodel. In this conversation with host Phil Coover, John describes his journey, from launching the firm by himself in 2017 to growing it over the years. Tune in for his insights about weathering construction trends, hiring people who fit the company culture, and doing “whatever it takes” to ensure the firm succeeds – for his customers and his staff. Connect and Learn More ☑️ John Slaten | LinkedIn ☑️ Slaten Construction | LinkedIn | Facebook ☑️ Phil Coover | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    36 min

  5. 08/20/2025

    From Single-Family Homes to 200-Unit High-Rise, with Tony Andrews and Dimitri Nassis

    Tandem has built an impressive portfolio scaling from single-family homes to a 200-unit high-rise in Chicago's competitive market. To explain why Crain’s took notice with a recent article about the firm, co-founders Tony Andrews and Dimitri Nassis share their remarkable journey with host Phil Coover. After reconnecting in an airport, the childhood friends partnered on their first profitable single-family project. “It was just very simple for me,” Tony recalls. “The accounting was simple. It's pluses and minuses and a little bit of division.” The duo expanded into multifamily developments, weathering the recession of ‘08 and Covid shut-downs. Tune in for their insights about vertical integration in development, the hidden profit strategies some general contractors use, and prioritizing transparency over traditional bidding battles.  Connect and Learn More☑️ Dimitri Nassis | LinkedIn ☑️ Tony Andrews | LinkedIn ☑️ Tandem | LinkedIn | Facebook | YouTube ☑️ Phil Coover | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    45 min

  6. 07/15/2025

    Private Equity's Secret Weapon: Real Estate Arbitrage, with Jordan Shtulman and Jonathan Wolfe

    What if you could turn your real estate into a money-making machine while keeping your business running exactly where it is? Jordan Shtulman and Jonathan Wolfe of Stream Capital Partners have mastered the art of sale leaseback arbitrage, helping private equity firms unlock millions from non-earning real estate assets. With host Phil Coover, they explain how private equity firms buying businesses at four to eight times EBITDA can sell the underlying real estate at 12 to 18 times rent multiples. Tune in for their insights about structuring complex sale leaseback deals, the personality traits needed for success in commission-only brokerage, and why being an advisor trumps being a broker. Connect and Learn More☑️ Jordan Shtulman | LinkedIn ☑️ Jonathan Wolfe | LinkedIn ☑️ Stream Capital Partners | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Phil Coover | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    42 min

  7. 06/17/2025

    Alternative Investment Strategies: Accessing Institutional-Grade Opportunities, with Chris Burns

    "I'm an advisor for alternative investments," explains Chris Burns about how he connects individual investors with institutional-grade opportunities. The founder of Quema Capital and a broker-dealer with Great Point Capital in Chicago, Chris specializes in helping investors access real estate syndications, development deals, acquisition funds, and private REITs. Tune in to this conversation with host Phil Coover about tax-advantaged investment strategies, including the powerful Roth IRA conversion technique that can reduce tax liability during real estate development's natural J-curve and why Chicago's limited-supply market presents compelling opportunities for both developers and distressed-asset buyers. Connect and Learn More☑️ Chris Burns | LinkedIn ☑️ Quema Capital | LinkedIn ☑️ Phil Coover | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    33 min

  8. 05/21/2025

    Chicago's Premier Neighborhoods: The 100-Unit Sweet Spot, with Matt Katsaros

    “Underwriting in Chicago is, I think, a bit easier than a lot of other markets,” says Matt Katsaros, founder of Wildwood Investments, adding, “Especially when you're local and you know the players, you can quantify risk a little bit easier.” Matt knows the players. Wildwood Investments has carved a niche in Chicago's premier neighborhoods by developing mid-sized multifamily properties of 30 to 100 units. Tune in to this conversation with host Phil Coover about the advantages of having both construction and finance expertise in-house and the unique challenges and opportunities in Chicago's limited-supply market. Connect and Learn More☑️ Matt Katsaros | LinkedIn ☑️ Wildwood Investments ☑️ Phil Coover | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    34 min
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“Real Estate for Breakfast” is a Chicago-centric commercial real estate podcast presented by McGuireWoods. Hosted by Phil Coover, a partner at McGuireWoods, the podcast features conversations with industry leaders including developers, property management professionals, brokers, attorneys, investors, visionaries, tenants, tenant representatives, and business owners. The show delivers thoughtful commentary on current real estate issues, explanations of sophisticated real estate challenges, and insights on emerging trends—all at the intersection of real estate business and law. Phil leverages his experience as both a licensed attorney and real estate managing broker in Illinois to translate complex issues into engaging discussions about real estate, business, and life. McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public affairs solutions to corporate, individual, and nonprofit clients worldwide for more than 200 years collectively. Our commitment to excellence in everything we do gives our clients a competitive edge in everything they do. Our law firm, over its 186-year history, has earned the loyalty of our many long-standing clients with a deep understanding of their businesses, and broad skills in corporate transactions, high-stakes disputes, and complex regulatory and compliance matters. To learn more about our discussions, please email host Phillip Coover at pcoover@mcguirewoods.com or visit our website at mcguirewoods.com. This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

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  • Creator
    McGuireWoods
  • Years Active
    2017 - 2026
  • Episodes
    93
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Copyright 2026 McGuireWoods
  • Show Website
    Real Estate for Breakfast

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