Rebel on Main

David Swartz

A podcast investigation about a rebel statue in Kentucky’s Bluegrass. His belt buckle is Confederate, but he wears a Union uniform. Is he a monument to heroism? Or a symbol of treason and racism? Rebel on Main chronicles this statue’s bizarre biography—and the haunting story of the community that now decides its fate.

Episodes

  1. Episode 2

    Defending History

    On a warm Monday morning, a week after protests broke out in front of the courthouse, a man with short-cropped hair stands beside the statue. Legs astride with an enormous handgun in a holster on his left side, Brandon is guarding “history.” When I approach him, he explains that the statue is not a monument to slavery. Referencing the inscription on the statue’s foundation, he says that it honors “soldiers who have fought and died in this country.” The second episode of Rebel on Main investigates Brandon’s claim by recounting the bizarre origins of Jessamine’s statue. Initially ordered, but not paid for, by a different town that wanted a Union statue, the unclaimed monument was purchased at a 90 percent discount by the county fathers and then regalvanized into a Confederate identity. Before a raucous crowd of 3,000 supporters shrieking rebel yells, the statue is unveiled. The Lost Cause has won Jessamine County. A century later, conditions have changed. Brandon still believes in the Lost Cause, but critics are denouncing it as heresy. He feels embattled by gay activists, Black Lives Matter, and woke historians who want to “erase history.” Frustrated and angry that his Civil War narrative is being threatened, he stands vigil, guarding the statue from protesters who want to destroy memories of Confederate courage. Engage Check out our website at rebelonmain.com. To support future creative projects, contribute here: rebelonmain.com/support. Email david.swartz@asbury.edu to let me know what you think of this episode of Rebel on Main. Please give a rating on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast platform. Timestamps 00:00      David talks with Brandon, armed defender of the statue 05:56      Story of Bennett Young, the model/architect of Jessamine’s statue 09:00      Sam Flora of the Sons of Confederate Veterans tells the story of St. Albans Raid. 25:35      Story of how the statue was conceived, built, and dedicated 39:29      David wrestles with Brandon’s political opinions 40:32      Robert P. Jones analyzes the “end of white Christian America” 42:42      David analyzes the social context of the statue in the 1890s and how it mirrors conditions in the 2020s 51:51      David wrestles with whether his historical analysis is condescending to Brandon—and the architects of the statue 53:30      David, Brandon, and Judge West have a conversation Transcript: Visit http://www.rebelonmain.com/episode2. Resources For photos of the statue, the St. Albans raiders, and other historical artifacts, head to rebelonmain.com/episode2. Michelle Sherburne, The St. Albans Raid: Confederate Attack on Vermont Anne Marshall, Creating a Confederate Kentucky: The Lost Cause and Civil War Memory in a Border State Gaines Foster, Ghosts of the Confederacy: Defeat, the Lost Cause, and the Emergence of the New South, 1865 to 1913 For a fascinating PRRI study about how residents in thirteen southern states think about memorials in public spaces, see “Two Histories, One Future.” Production team Writer and Host: David R. Swartz Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: Barry Blair Story Editor: Stephen Smith Artistic Design: Josh Smith and Lisa Weaver Swartz Next episode: In Episode 3—Ghosts of Jessamine—David tells excruciating stories of lynchings, rapes, and violence.

  2. Episode 4

    Jenna's Petition

    Two weeks into the Black Lives Matter campaign, homeschooler Jenna Sparks gets mad. This sixteen-year-old descendant of a Confederate ancestor, whose name was Jeptha Jefferson Davis Sparks, has a Black cousin, and seeing so many people in Jessamine who fly the Confederate battle flag angers her. So does walking by the Confederate statue, located just two blocks from her house. So Jenna writes a petition to “remove and destroy” the statue. Hundreds of locals immediately sign, and her campaign makes the news. An interracial group of ministers led by Pastor Moses of First Baptist Church circulates Jenna’s petition. Then they write and submit their own to the judge. Jessamine County seems poised to reckon with its sordid record on race and Civil War memory. Timestamps 00:00      Sitting on her front porch, Jenna explains why she wants to destroy the statue. 07:58      Pastor Moses starts an interracial ministerial committee. 14:00      Pastor Max Vanderpool describes racial conditions in Jessamine County. 18:25      The ministerial committee ramps up. 30:48      A “Black Lives Matter” rally in Wilmore 38:08      Resistance emerges. 47:09      Antistatue activists resolve to continue their campaign. Transcript: Visit www.rebelonmain.com/episode4/transcript. Engage Check out our website at rebelonmain.com. To support future creative projects, contribute here: rebelonmain.com/support. Email david.swartz@asbury.edu to let me know what you think of this episode of Rebel on Main. Please give a rating on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast platform. Resources For pictures of Jenna, Pastor Moses, and the Wilmore march, head to https://www.rebelonmain.com/episode4 George Wright, A History of Blacks In Kentucky:  In Pursuit of Equality, 1890-1980 Michael Emerson and Christian Smith, Divided by Faith: Evangelical Religion and the Problem of Race in America On the Fallen Monuments Park in Moscow, see https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/fallen-monument-park. Production team Writer and Host: David R. Swartz Original Music, Sound Design, and Mixing: Barry Blair Story Editor: Stephen Smith Artistic Design: Josh Smith and Lisa Weaver Swartz Next episode: In Episode 5—Rival Monument—a very different narrative of the Civil War emerges from the ground.

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A podcast investigation about a rebel statue in Kentucky’s Bluegrass. His belt buckle is Confederate, but he wears a Union uniform. Is he a monument to heroism? Or a symbol of treason and racism? Rebel on Main chronicles this statue’s bizarre biography—and the haunting story of the community that now decides its fate.