Transitioning out of academia can leave you feeling lost and alone. The Recovering Academic podcast seeks to fill this gap. Join us as we navigate various stages of leaving academia and the issues that arise.
Send Recovering Academic to the NPA Meeting!
Happy 2020, Recovering academic audience (& hello to those new to us).
We hope you had a restful break and 2020 is off to an amazing start.
Recovering Academic has been invited to the annual NPA Meeting in March, and we're raising money to travel there.
Instead of just asking for donations (you can, if you like, however!), we're selling awesome Recovering Academic stickers for $5.00 each via Paypal link below and you can buy a Recovering Academic T-shirt at our Bonfire store for $25.00.
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We are also actively seeking sponsors, so if you're interested in sponsoring us for mentioning your company, get in touch with us here!
We're excited about 2020 and we're excited for our session at the NPA conference and providing insights into the complex world of career transitions and the world of possibilities that exist for PhDs!
Season 4: ep 02: Dr. Emily Roberts
Dr. Emily Roberts. Photo source: pfforphds.com.
We spoke with Emily Roberts, PhD about their business Personal Finance for PhDs. Emily's career after academia is advising PhDs about finance.
One of the key points she made was to how having a solid amount of savings enabled her to make the decision to start her own solopreneur business, making the transition easier. Financial security makes transition less stressful.
Dr. Roberts also encourages PhDs with a side hustle to do one that builds and demonstrates skills they are interested in and that might turn into a new career path.
Listen to the episode to hear more wisdom from Dr. Roberts about PhD's taxes, managing money, and her current career running her own businesses.
Get a financial life by Beth Kobliner
Season 4, Episode 1: Eva Amsen
Eva Amsen, PhD. Photo from Easternblot.net. Photographer: Rannie Turingan
For our series four opener, we talk with Freelance writer, editor and science communicator Eva Amsen, PhD who joined us in the middle of her night from London. Eva got her PhD at the University of Toronto where she started a blog, EasternBlot.net. During her PhD, Eva had already decided that she didn't want to pursue a faculty career.
Through her blogging experience, she freelanced through the economic crash of 2008 just after her PhD. Giving herself a one year deadline post PhD to find a job, she landed a job at the journal Development to start their still-existing (and excellent) blog, The Node.
While she has had full time jobs in the last decade, Eva is now a full time freelancer again and we discuss the nature of freelancing and finding work, the job that is communicating science, and her project Share Your Sci (hint: have a specific audience in mind).
Eva Amsen is a writer and science communicator, focused on the common ground between science and the arts. She runs a quarterly newsletter highlighting collaborations and overlap between scientists and musicians. Eva has written about science in culture and society for Nautilus, The Scientist, Spacing Magazine and other places — including the science blog she has maintained since her days as a PhD student in Toronto. Eva also runs Share Your Sci and helps researchers communicate their work.
You can follow Eva on Twitter @easternblot.net.
Book Ian mentioned: Hiding in The Bathroom: An Introvert's Roadmap to Getting out there when you'd Rather Stay Home by Morra Aarons-Mele.
Recovering Academic Season 4 Teaser
We've discussed our experiences regarding the struggles we faced when leaving academia. So now we want to hear from you!
The recovering academic trio is on summer break, but we want to ask for your help to plan our next season!
Send us questions, suggestions for topics, tell us about your specific transition struggles! Let us know if you'd prefer to remain anonymous or be credited. You can get in touch via Twitter (@RecoveringAcad, @LadyScientist, @Doctor_PMS, @IHStreet), our Facebook page, or email show at recoveringacademic dot net.
We will be back in your ears this fall!
Season 3 Episode 11: Space
The Hubble Ultra Deep Field. Public Domain.
Space, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Recovering Academics. Its mission: to explore different and new industries. To seek out life outside of academia To boldly go where no former academic has gone before!
In this episode, our intrepid trio discusses the importance of giving yourself space to try out new things. The trio will also take our own advice and give ourselves some space. This is the end of season three, but don’t despair! We’ll be back for season 4 in the fall.
Mentioned in this episode:
Show notes for our Space ep (at least things I mentioned):
Kati Morton's series on BurnoutLisa Loeb's "Stay" video.
Season 3 episode 10: Value
In this episode the recovering trio discusses how to ask for more when academia train us not to negotiate/request what your time is actually worth. How do you put a dollar value on your time. Entrepreneur Amanda has so many great things to say, like researching rates charged by others in the industry, charging more for rush requests, and not falling into the trap of feeling like a constant beginner and never ending up charging for what you can do. And last: if someone comes to you with a project that might be worth doing, but would make you grumpy or stressed to do, ask for a rate that would make you not feel stressed out or grumpy and let the client say yes/no to that rate. In other words, make yourself happy. We also discuss the three P's (Passion, Prestige, and Pay). If a project or job doesn't offer at least two of those three, turn it down.
We also discuss how hard it is to say no to opportunities sometimes, and how you have to feed your cat. People pleasing may be a common trait amongst academics (at least n=3 for the podcast co-hosts), and one that can lead us to not ask for our value or accept offers that are too low for our actual value.
"If you've ever thought about calculating your hourly pay as a postdoc or PhD student, my suggestion is to not do that" – Amanda
"...if a project comes back with a dollar amount, practicing saying "that sounds a little low" – Ian (quoting advice of science writer Kate Gammon Ian encountered at SciComm Camp).
"Working on next month's pay in the current month..." – Amanda on how she works with a cushion, always working on the next month's pay in the current month.
Customer ReviewsSee All
Helpful & supportive podcast
I appreciate this podcast and its honest take on the reality of leaving academia. As a humanities scholar who just made the transition away from academia, I do wish the podcast included more voices from outside the sciences. It's such a necessary conversation, particularly in our current social and political climate and with the realities of higher ed today.
Helpful podcast that could use some work
I appreciate the podcast shining light on some of the big and little difficulties of leaving academia. It's helpful to have a wider exploration of what it means to make the leap. I wish the discussions would stay on topic more though. Sometimes the conversation drifts off into thoughts on dating and relocation that aren't relevant to the issue at hand. I find this especially inappropriate during interviews, when the interviewee should be the center of attention. Perhaps if the hosts had an outline with designated times to spend on each sub-topic the podcast would feel more coherent and be more successful in helping listeners. A little more time on sound mixing could also go a long way.
Great information with some drawbacks
Love the podcast and the presentation of materials. Feels a lot like a support group for those who have left or are thinking about leaving academia. Lots of great information sprinkled throughout each episode.
Because of the support group feeling each episode feels unstructured. Sometimes it seems like they lose the message and it gets hard to follow along and the point and actionable advice gets pushed to the last few minutes of the show.
The sound design and mix are irritating. The intro/outro song cuts out abruptly rather than fades, the intros (and sometimes the whole show) sounds like they are recorded in an echoey cavern a mile under the surface of the Earth, and each of the hosts has a totally different volume/sound quality. Cleyde's volume is almost always on point while everything else fluctuates wildly, it's frustrating to be wrist-deep in work and you're suddenly only hearing a whispering conversation.
With more attention to the sound issues I'd rate it 5/5 but the technical problems hold back a great show about issues few others are effectively addressing.