Recruiting Alchemy with Andy Simpson

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  1. Recruiting Alchemy Ep.20: Logan Naidu - Two Private Equity Deals and the Culture That Made Them Work

    22h ago

    Recruiting Alchemy Ep.20: Logan Naidu - Two Private Equity Deals and the Culture That Made Them Work

    On Recruiting Alchemy, Logan Naidu, founder and Group CEO of Kernel Global, shares his personal background and path from investment banking at J.P. Morgan and corporate finance at PwC into recruitment, after being fired from his first recruiting role. He founded The Cornell Partnership in 2005, built it to around 30 people, then after a cancer diagnosis in 2010 and disagreements over shifting from a dividend-led lifestyle business to a growth-and-exit strategy, left in 2011 to start Dartmouth Partners. He describes building a high-performance culture centred on making winning “intoxicating,” a long-term “classroom to boardroom” candidate strategy, and growing with a 30% annual growth target. Naidu talkes about private equity, completed PE deals in 2018 and March 2023 (closing shortly after SVB), acquired Pure, grew to 10m EBITDA, paid out a staff pot of about £30m to 170–180 people, navigated post-COVID market shifts, and emphasised in-office culture and US expansion. 00:00 Apartheid Roots 00:26 Sponsor ryvr AI 01:45 Meet Logan Naidu 03:27 Family and Identity 06:04 School and Ambition 08:09 Banking Disillusionment 09:26 PwC and Pivot Point 11:14 Landing in Recruitment 13:22 Fired by Text 16:10 Starting Cornell Partnership 18:23 Lifestyle Business Reality 20:07 Cancer Wake Up Call 23:08 Leaving to Build Dartmouth 23:53 Growth Culture Blueprint 27:50 Classroom to Boardroom 32:29 Kernel Group Today 32:42 Multi Brand Strategy 33:12 Private Equity Explained 34:20 First PE Deal Journey 38:48 De Risking And Growth 40:28 Acquiring Pure 42:52 Boardroom Changes 45:13 Second PE Deal 48:46 Market Turns Down 51:55 Culture And Performance 53:50 Future Plans And AI 57:29 Office First Culture 01:03:40 Vision And Wrap Up 01:05:02 Production Credits Guest, Logan Naidu: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/logan-naidu-3b10b51/ Kernel Global: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kernelglobal/ Host, Andy Simpson: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andyhsimpson/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyhsimpson/ Thank you to ryvr.ai for sponsoring this episode read more about them below: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryvr.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ryvrai/ Website: https://ryvr.ai/

    1h 6m
  2. Recruiting Alchemy Ep.19: Gary Elden - The £8K Bet That Built an Empire

    Jun 25

    Recruiting Alchemy Ep.19: Gary Elden - The £8K Bet That Built an Empire

    Gary Elden OBE joins Recruiting Alchemy and Andy Simpson to share his journey from a tough Camberwell council estate to becoming a leading figure in the recruitment industry, launching Huxley Associates within S3 and later serving as CEO of a listed business. He discusses early resilience, moving from insurance broking to estate agency, then taking a pay cut to join Computer Futures, where he learned from top performers and became a high biller. Gary explains S3’s entrepreneurial equity model, Huxley’s banking-led expansion into the US and Asia, the shift from perm to contract for revenue resilience, and the cultural impact of being a PLC. He reflects on being a Black/mixed-race role model, his OBE for services to diversity and business, leaving corporate life, advising and investing, and building Vidmology to modernize recruitment training using short-form video, audio, and AI bots. 00:00 OBE and Role Models 00:32 Sponsor ryvr.ai 01:51 Meet Gary Eldon 03:03 Growing Up Camberwell 06:08 First Jobs and City Life 09:33 Estate Agency to Recruitment 11:42 Computer Futures Grind 15:31 Jerk Chicken Side Hustle 17:21 Launching Huxley Associates 22:38 S3 Growth and IPO 27:20 Becoming CEO 29:31 Race Diversity and OBE 32:56 Windrush Roots and Palace 34:15 Blushing Prince William 34:50 New York Expansion 36:03 Life in America 37:42 Becoming CEO 39:06 Strategy Reset 41:06 Contract Shift Math 42:39 Leaving the Top Job 45:11 Crypto Risk Lessons 47:46 Remote Work Culture 50:05 Advisory Portfolio Life 53:16 Market Outlook Pockets 58:43 Candidate First Tactics 01:02:08 Vidmology Training Vision 01:05:28 Embracing AI Future 01:08:32 Final Thanks Credits Follow Gary Elden: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-elden-3004502b/ Follow Andy Simpson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyhsimpson/ Thank you ryvr.ai for sponsoring this episode: https://ryvr.ai/

    1h 10m
  3. Recruiting Alchemy Ep.18: Tom Way - How One Choice Transformed Everything

    Apr 29

    Recruiting Alchemy Ep.18: Tom Way - How One Choice Transformed Everything

    In this episode of Recruiting Alchemy, host Andy Simpson sits down with Tom Way, CEO of UK and Ireland at Hays, to explore the high-stakes world of leading one of the world's largest staffing companies. Tom provides a deep-dive look at the "sliding doors" moments that define a career, from being one deal away from being fired to leading a organization of 2,300 people. The conversation explores the massive shift toward tech-enabled recruitment, the challenges of managing 290 million in revenue, and why the recruitment landscape in 2026 requires a "customer-centric" approach that balances AI with human connectivity. Episode Timestamps: [00:00:00] Intro & Welcome: Tom discusses the accountability of a PLC strategy and why you can't just "go off piste". [00:03:30] The Early Hustle: Growing up in Paris and North London, and how working two paper rounds at 14 built a foundation for relationship building. [00:10:43] The Sliding Doors Moment: How one deal with America Online (AOL) saved Tom from being fired and launched his recruitment career. [00:14:12] Winning in California: The "coming to Jesus" moment in San Francisco that took a struggling team to market dominance through in-person meetings. [00:32:00] Hays & The Tech Masterstroke: Why Hays decided to "skip a generation" of technology to wait for the right AI integration. [00:41:57] The Future of Talent: Tom's vision for AI-stack development and why training people is the missing piece in the productivity puzzle. [00:45:25] Quick Fire Section: Tom shares his outlook on the Hays share price, poor cricket, and the 2026 vision.

    46 min
  4. Recruiting Alchemy Ep.17: Jeremy Snell on Shifting from CV Vendor to Value Proposition

    Feb 11

    Recruiting Alchemy Ep.17: Jeremy Snell on Shifting from CV Vendor to Value Proposition

    In this episode of Recruiting Alchemy, host Andy Simpson sits down with Jeremy Snell, recruitment leader and industry veteran, to explore what really drives performance in modern recruitment businesses. Jeremy provides a no-nonsense look at why technology alone won’t fix broken models, and why clarity of process, value proposition, and discipline still sit at the heart of successful recruitment firms. The conversation dives deep into the rise of AI in recruitment, the challenges of scaling sales and delivery, and why recruitment leaders heading into 2026 must prioritise consistency, commercial thinking, and strong fundamentals over shiny tools. Drawing on decades of experience building from cold starts, Jeremy shares practical insight for agency owners, leaders, and consultants navigating one of the fastest-changing recruitment landscapes we’ve ever seen. Episode Timestamps [00:00:00] Intro & Welcome: Andy introduces Recruiting Alchemy and welcomes Jeremy Snell to the studio.[00:02:10] Origins & Career Foundations: Jeremy’s early career, background, and path into recruitment.[00:12:20] Building from Scratch: Lessons from cold starts, hard work, and scaling recruitment desks.[00:24:30] AI, Automation & Process: Why AI can’t fix flawed sales or delivery processes.[00:45:25] Quick Fire Section: Consistency, discipline, and the habits that compound over time.

    47 min
  5. Recruiting Alchemy Ep.16: Simon Ryan on Scale, Embedded Talent & Steven Bartlett

    11/20/2025

    Recruiting Alchemy Ep.16: Simon Ryan on Scale, Embedded Talent & Steven Bartlett

    In this exceptional episode of the Recruiting Alchemy Podcast, host Andy Simpson sits down with Simon Ryan, Director at Chapter 2 and Co-founder of Chapter 2 Health Talent, for a deep dive into building, scaling, and disrupting the recruitment industry. Simon shares his powerful origin story, the keys to navigating market crises, and the future of hyper-efficient talent acquisition, which has attracted the investment of Steven Bartlett. ⏱️ Key Timestamps 01:47 - Simon Ryan's Origin Story: Growing up in Stratford and selling drawings with his identical twin.05:07 - The unlikely start: How soccer coaching in Camp America led to his first recruitment job at Reed.06:44 - Starting just before the 2008 Financial Crisis and how he became the top perm consultant.10:48 - The achievement: Becoming the youngest-ever Business Manager at Reed (age 25).14:14 - The 11-year rocket ship: Scaling Your World Healthcare from 75 to 500+ staff and growing margin to £45M.16:09 - The strategy: How Simon helped Leo Harrison and joined Chapter Two by adding value first.19:47 - The Question: What's it like working with Steven Bartlett?21:09 - Steven Bartlett's Recruiting Secret: Why he spends 30-40 hours a week on recruitment.22:57 - The Disruption: Achieving 175 hires in six months with a Cost Per Hire of only £2.5k.25:52 - The Chapter Two Model: The three pillars of success (Talent, Tech, and Employer Branding).33:31 - Managing the "bench" and the financial risk of the embedded model.44:40 - High-growth areas in Health Tech and Health AI.

    48 min
  6. Recruiting Alchemy Ep.15: Malvin Kamara on Football, Founding Vallum Associates & Leadership.

    08/27/2025

    Recruiting Alchemy Ep.15: Malvin Kamara on Football, Founding Vallum Associates & Leadership.

    In this episode of Recruiting Alchemy, host Andy Simpson sits down with Malvin Kamara, former professional footballer turned founder and CEO of Vallum Associates. From playing in the Premier League and Championship to building one of the fastest-growing recruitment firms in energy and infrastructure, Malvin shares his remarkable journey and the lessons learned along the way. They discuss what professional sport taught him about resilience, how he transitioned into recruitment, and the realities of scaling a business with no prior experience. From managing VAT shocks and cashflow challenges to building a high-performance culture, Malvin offers a refreshingly honest look at what it takes to succeed in recruitment and leadership. Whether you’re a recruiter, business owner, or simply someone interested in stories of resilience and entrepreneurship, this episode is packed with inspiration and practical takeaways. 🎙 Key Topics: 🔹 From football pitches to boardrooms – Malvin’s journey into recruitment 🔹 Why resilience and mindset matter more than experience 🔹 Scaling Vallum Associates through setbacks and turning points 🔹 Lessons in leadership, culture, and high-performance environments 🔹 The realities of tax, cashflow, and learning business the hard way Show Notes & Timestamps [00:00] Introduction & Early Life Andy introduces Malvin Kamara and his journey from football to recruitment. Growing up in Plumstead and discovering a love for football. [07:00] Professional Football Career Playing for Port Vale, Huddersfield, and beyond. How injury and circumstance shaped his next chapter. [20:00] First Steps After Football Door-to-door sales in Yorkshire and tough early lessons. Transition into recruitment and discovering Venquis. [35:00] Founding Vallum Associates Why Malvin decided to start his own company. Struggles with scaling, learning tax and cashflow the hard way. Building resilience through trial and error. [45:00] Building Culture & Scaling to Exit The importance of high-performance environments. Creating a company culture that attracts and retains talent. Lessons from private equity and scaling partnerships. [01:00:00] Final Thoughts Advice for recruiters and entrepreneurs. Why setbacks can shape long-term success.

    53 min
  7. Recruiting Alchemy Ep.14: Steve Beckitt on Building SourceBreaker & the Reality of Tech Startups

    07/30/2025

    Recruiting Alchemy Ep.14: Steve Beckitt on Building SourceBreaker & the Reality of Tech Startups

    In this episode of Recruiting Alchemy, Andy Simpson sits down with Steve Beckitt founder of SourceBreaker for a candid and often hilarious deep dive into how he went from contract recruiter to tech founder, built a SaaS business from spreadsheets, and exited with a life-changing deal. Steve shares his unfiltered journey: selling early products that barely worked, surviving COVID as a bootstrapped founder, and the emotional highs and lows of growing (and selling) a business under intense pressure. From S3 training rooms to building Excel tools that ended up in the hands of Google and Facebook. This episode is equal parts gritty startup story and practical masterclass for any recruiter or entrepreneur thinking of taking the leap. 🎙 Key Topics: 🔹 How Steve validated SourceBreaker by selling Excel spreadsheets to recruiters 🔹 The early hustle: balancing product development with cash flow 🔹 Going from contractor at S3 to founder in Croydon 🔹 Why recruitment was never the end goal—and how he pivoted into SaaS 🔹 Managing investor expectations and funding rounds 🔹 Surviving a direct competitor giving away a near-identical product for free 🔹 When and why he decided to sell the business—and how close it came to falling apart 🔹 The emotional cost of being a founder (and why he sold the cars) 📄 Show Notes & Timestamps [00:00] – Intro & Background Steve’s recruitment roots and early days at S3 [06:00] – Leaving S3 & Starting From Scratch From flat in Croydon to the first sale [10:00] – The Spreadsheet Hustle How Steve built basic Excel tools to fund his startup—and got 500 global brands downloading [14:00] – Validating the Market From Boolean builders to product-market fit with no code [18:00] – Finding the Right Co-Founders & Freelancers Meet Zenon: the MVP-builder behind the curtain [22:00] – Turning Spreadsheets into a SaaS Company Why being underestimated helped—and what broke first [28:00] – Raising Capital & The Pressure to Perform Private equity, SEIS, and the true weight of investor money [33:00] – Navigating COVID, Near Misses & Competitive Threats How they survived a major competitor undercutting them before launch [36:00] – Scaling, Stress & Real Talk About Burnout The pressure to exit, and the price of relentless growth [42:00] – Life After the Exit What changed (and what didn’t) [44:00] – Advice for Founders From advisors to mindset to spreadsheets

    46 min
  8. Recruiting Alchemy Ep.13: Dave Rees on Fixing In-House Talent, Hiring Better & Why Quality Trumps Volume

    07/23/2025

    Recruiting Alchemy Ep.13: Dave Rees on Fixing In-House Talent, Hiring Better & Why Quality Trumps Volume

    In this episode of Recruiting Alchemy, Andy sits down with David Rees, former Chief Sales Officer at S3 and now a fractional chair and investor across multiple recruitment and tech businesses. David shares his journey from his roots in South Wales to leading global teams and shaping the recruitment industry at the highest level. They discuss the evolution of recruitment, the challenges of scaling internationally, and the critical role of company culture. David also offers candid insights on leadership, the impact of technology and AI, and what it takes to build resilient, high-performing organizations in a rapidly changing market. Whether you're a recruiter, business leader, or interested in the future of work, this episode is packed with practical wisdom and industry perspective. 🎙 Key Topics: 🔹 Building a career from humble beginnings to industry leadership 🔹 The evolution of recruitment and why culture matters 🔹 Lessons from scaling and international expansion at S3 🔹 The impact of AI, automation, and technology on recruitment 🔹 How to build resilient, high-performing teams in uncertain times Tune in for an in-depth discussion on recruitment strategy, leadership, and navigating the future of the industry. Show Notes & Timestamps [00:00] – Opening & Introduction David’s journey from South Wales to the top of the recruitment industry. How early experiences shaped his approach to business and leadership. [10:00] – The S3 Story & Lessons in Growth Joining S3, building teams, and navigating industry booms and downturns. Why company culture and internal development drive long-term success. [25:00] – International Expansion & Leadership The challenges and rewards of leading teams across the UK, Germany, and beyond. How to adapt leadership styles for different markets. [40:00] – Technology, AI & the Future of Recruitment How technology and AI are reshaping recruitment. Why human connection and deep market knowledge still matter. [55:00] – Building Resilient Teams & Businesses Lessons from the pandemic, investing, and chairing multiple companies. What it takes to build sustainable, high-performing organizations. [65:00] – Final Thoughts & Key Takeaways The importance of adaptability, culture, and leadership in recruitment. David’s outlook on the future of the industry and advice for the next generation.

    51 min
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