Repeatable Revenue: An MSP Growth Podcast

MSP Sales & Growth | Ray J. Green
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Practical sales and marketing for MSPs and IT service providers who want to grow. Hosted by Ray J. Green — founder of MSP Sales Partners, former PE-backed CEO, and former Managing Director at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Interviews with top MSP sellers and founders who’ve exited, plus short solo episodes on building pipeline, closing deals, and managing sales teams. New episodes almost every day.

  1. 1d ago

    The $0 Fix for a Rep Who Isn't Hitting His Numbers

    Pulling a rep into one more meeting feels like leadership. That's the problem. A rep Ray was coaching came to him a few weeks into ramp, short of his call target. Not because the target was too high — he said he could hit 50 a day in his sleep. He was landing at 32, 39. The calendar had eaten the day. Nothing on that calendar was wasted, exactly. The marketing sync, the L10, the call someone thought he'd get context from — each had a defensible reason to include him. That's how managers see the world, because meetings are where managers do the job. It's Paul Graham's maker and manager split, written for coders and just as true for a sales rep. Pull a maker onto the manager's schedule and the scraps of context they pick up get dwarfed by the hours they lose doing the thing you hired them for. In this episode, Ray makes the case that the cheapest productivity gain available to most sales leaders is leaving their best people alone — and what to put in place instead when the meetings were really there to reassure you. This is for owners and sales managers whose calendars are full of check-ins with people who'd rather be on the phone. What You'll Learn in This Episode: Why a rep who can hit 50 dials in his sleep ends the day at 32The maker and manager split — and why salespeople sit firmly on the maker sideWhy the context you hand a rep is worth less than the hours it costsWhat it means when meetings are compensating for a lack of trust or visibilityThe tracker-and-check-in setup that replaces the standing meetingWhy a full calendar is a morale crusher for a real hunter // Welcome to The Ray J. Green Show, your destination for tips on sales, strategy, and self-mastery from an operator, not a guru. About Ray: → Former Managing Director of National Small & Midsize Business at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, where he doubled revenue per sale in fundraising, led the first increase in SMB membership, co-built a national Mid-Market sales channel, and more. → Former CEO operator for several investor groups where he led turnarounds of recently acquired small businesses. → Current founder of MSP Sales Partners, where we currently help IT companies scale sales: www.MSPSalesPartners.com → Current Sales & Sales Management Expert in Residence at the world’s largest IT business mastermind. → Current Managing Partner of Repeatable Revenue Ventures, where we scale B2B companies we have equity in: www.RayJGreen.com // Follow Ray on: YouTube | LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram

  2. 6d ago

    How to Stop Finishing Projects Nobody Uses

    Clicking a task complete feels good. That's the problem. Ray rebuilt onboarding last quarter. New process, matched the whiteboard, marked done. Forty-five days later, two customers who'd just been onboarded told him it was still rocky. The financial buildout got the same treatment — books, budget, forecast, all checked off. Then he went to make the two biggest hires in the business and had no report that could tell him what it would do to cash flow over the next 90 to 180 days. Third one hurt the most: an AI script writer he reverse engineered from years of writing outbound scripts, paid a contractor to install, tested, and was proud of. His fourth sales manager started and asked what script writer. All three were done according to spec. None of them were creating value. In this episode, Ray makes the case that how a team defines done is the highest-impact decision in any project — and shares the standard he's now holding his own company to. This is for founders and operators whose task lists keep closing while the business stays in the same place. What You'll Learn in This Episode: Why a project can be finished by the spec sheet and still be worth nothingThe dopamine trap behind clicking tasks complete — and what Asana's unicorn was really doingThe difference between done and done wellWhy "is anyone actually using it?" belongs in your definition of doneHow to spot the blocker sitting between an executed project and its actual useWhy executing for execution's sake feels like progress and isn't // Welcome to The Ray J. Green Show, your destination for tips on sales, strategy, and self-mastery from an operator, not a guru. About Ray: → Former Managing Director of National Small & Midsize Business at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, where he doubled revenue per sale in fundraising, led the first increase in SMB membership, co-built a national Mid-Market sales channel, and more. → Former CEO operator for several investor groups where he led turnarounds of recently acquired small businesses. → Current founder of MSP Sales Partners, where we currently help IT companies scale sales: www.MSPSalesPartners.com → Current Sales & Sales Management Expert in Residence at the world’s largest IT business mastermind. → Current Managing Partner of Repeatable Revenue Ventures, where we scale B2B companies we have equity in: www.RayJGreen.com // Follow Ray on: YouTube | LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram

  3. Sep 7

    The 3 Numbers That Run a $20M P&L (And Your Business)

    Ray's first P&L was a $20 million budget at the US Chamber of Commerce — forty tabs in a single Excel workbook, and no idea where to start. The VP of finance gave him an answer that has held in every complicated financial scenario he's touched since: three numbers drive the whole thing. Leads, close rate, revenue per sale. Every other tab rolls up to one of them. In this episode Ray breaks down why finding those numbers matters for two separate reasons — one obvious, one that saves you a wasted year — and why it happened again last week on a coaching call in a completely different industry, with basically the same three numbers. What You'll Learn in This Episode: Why a $20M P&L came down to three cells out of forty tabsThe difference between simplifying so you can drive the numbers and simplifying so you stop chasing red herringsHow to spot the meta numbers underneath any dashboard, in sales, marketing, content, or opsWhy the agency reporting good numbers and the rep reporting activity are the same problemWhy finding the three is harder than it sounds — and what makes it worth the work // Welcome to The Ray J. Green Show, your destination for tips on sales, strategy, and self-mastery from an operator, not a guru. About Ray: → Former Managing Director of National Small & Midsize Business at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, where he doubled revenue per sale in fundraising, led the first increase in SMB membership, co-built a national Mid-Market sales channel, and more. → Former CEO operator for several investor groups where he led turnarounds of recently acquired small businesses. → Current founder of MSP Sales Partners, where we currently help IT companies scale sales: www.MSPSalesPartners.com → Current Sales & Sales Management Expert in Residence at the world’s largest IT business mastermind. → Current Managing Partner of Repeatable Revenue Ventures, where we scale B2B companies we have equity in: www.RayJGreen.com // Follow Ray on: YouTube | LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram

  4. Sep 4

    Before You Change Your Marketing Strategy, Watch This

    Two years ago, Ray's content was driving seven figures a year into his consulting business, organically and without paid ads. Today it drives close to nothing. The conclusion sitting right there is that content stopped working — and Ray isn't drawing it. In this episode he breaks down what he calls ignorance debt: the price of every problem sitting below the surface of a channel you haven't run yet. Assume every channel comes with ten problems. If you've already solved eight in the one you're in, solving two more beats starting over and hoping the new one only has four. What You'll Learn in This Episode: Why pivoting feels like a fresh start and usually just restarts the clock on the same set of problemsWhat ignorance debt is, and why the problems you can't see are the ones that cost youThe single question Ray asks before abandoning any channelHow to tell a genuine dead end from an escape hatchWhy every system is perfectly designed to get the results it's getting — and the only two things that can ever be wrong with it // Welcome to The Ray J. Green Show, your destination for tips on sales, strategy, and self-mastery from an operator, not a guru. About Ray: → Former Managing Director of National Small & Midsize Business at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, where he doubled revenue per sale in fundraising, led the first increase in SMB membership, co-built a national Mid-Market sales channel, and more. → Former CEO operator for several investor groups where he led turnarounds of recently acquired small businesses. → Current founder of MSP Sales Partners, where we currently help IT companies scale sales: www.MSPSalesPartners.com → Current Sales & Sales Management Expert in Residence at the world’s largest IT business mastermind. → Current Managing Partner of Repeatable Revenue Ventures, where we scale B2B companies we have equity in: www.RayJGreen.com // Follow Ray on: YouTube | LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram

  5. Sep 2

    Why Did This Coach Tie His Team Together?

    Watch a team lose and you can usually list ten things that went wrong. Fixing all ten feels like the responsible thing to do, and it's often the reason nothing changes. Ray breaks down what happened when his son's 10-year-old basketball team got massacred in the first round of a tournament, and how their coach turned them around in two days by ignoring almost the entire list and drilling one thing — using a rope, not a whiteboard. The same discipline separates sales coaching that sticks from sales coaching that gets nodded at and forgotten. What You'll Learn in This Episode Why a list of ten fixable problems usually produces zero real improvement.What a youth basketball coach did with a rope that no amount of explaining could accomplish.How to find the single change that makes everything else on the list easier or unnecessary.Why drilling one thing until it's permanently installed beats covering everything once.What happens when a coaching session ends with ten action items instead of one.How compounding one improvement at a time produces outsized returns on a person and a business. // Welcome to The Ray J. Green Show, your destination for tips on sales, strategy, and self-mastery from an operator, not a guru. About Ray: → Former Managing Director of National Small & Midsize Business at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, where he doubled revenue per sale in fundraising, led the first increase in SMB membership, co-built a national Mid-Market sales channel, and more. → Former CEO operator for several investor groups where he led turnarounds of recently acquired small businesses. → Current founder of MSP Sales Partners, where we currently help IT companies scale sales: www.MSPSalesPartners.com → Current Sales & Sales Management Expert in Residence at the world’s largest IT business mastermind. → Current Managing Partner of Repeatable Revenue Ventures, where we scale B2B companies we have equity in: www.RayJGreen.com // Follow Ray on: YouTube | LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram

  6. Aug 31

    Marketers, Cult Leaders & Dictators Use the Same Playbook — Owen Fitzpatrick

    You can make a perfectly logical case for almost any belief you already hold—which makes it difficult to recognize when the belief itself is driving the problem. Ray sits down with psychologist and author Owen Fitzpatrick to explore how “inner propaganda” shapes the way business owners interpret information, make decisions, lead people, and define what they believe they're capable of. What You’ll Learn in This Episode How your brain can build narratives that feel like objective reality.Why intelligent people can become exceptionally good at defending beliefs that aren't serving them.How to identify beliefs that may be limiting your business without realizing it.Why asking “How is this belief working for me?” can be more useful than asking whether it is simply true.How identity influences decisions around sales, leadership, and entrepreneurship.How changing the story you tell yourself can open up a more useful way of operating. // Welcome to The Ray J. Green Show, your destination for tips on sales, strategy, and self-mastery from an operator, not a guru. About Ray: → Former Managing Director of National Small & Midsize Business at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, where he doubled revenue per sale in fundraising, led the first increase in SMB membership, co-built a national Mid-Market sales channel, and more. → Former CEO operator for several investor groups where he led turnarounds of recently acquired small businesses. → Current founder of MSP Sales Partners, where we currently help IT companies scale sales: www.MSPSalesPartners.com → Current Sales & Sales Management Expert in Residence at the world’s largest IT business mastermind. → Current Managing Partner of Repeatable Revenue Ventures, where we scale B2B companies we have equity in: www.RayJGreen.com // Follow Ray on: YouTube | LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram

  7. Aug 28

    How To Reverse Engineer Consistent Sales Pipeline

    A full pipeline feels like good news—until you realize you have no idea why it happened. Ray uses a conversation with an MSP seller to make the case that sales should be treated as a system: when the output changes, something upstream changed with it. What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why a good quarter you can't explain is the same management problem as a bad quarter you blame on the market.How to think about sales as inputs, process, output, and feedback.Why changes in pipeline should trigger investigation rather than celebration alone.How marketing and outbound sales function as R&D when they're measured over time.Why tracking what drives results gives sales leaders more control over future performance.How to move from explaining quarters after the fact to understanding what is driving them. // Welcome to The Ray J. Green Show, your destination for tips on sales, strategy, and self-mastery from an operator, not a guru. About Ray: → Former Managing Director of National Small & Midsize Business at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, where he doubled revenue per sale in fundraising, led the first increase in SMB membership, co-built a national Mid-Market sales channel, and more. → Former CEO operator for several investor groups where he led turnarounds of recently acquired small businesses. → Current founder of MSP Sales Partners, where we currently help IT companies scale sales: www.MSPSalesPartners.com → Current Sales & Sales Management Expert in Residence at the world’s largest IT business mastermind. → Current Managing Partner of Repeatable Revenue Ventures, where we scale B2B companies we have equity in: www.RayJGreen.com // Follow Ray on: YouTube | LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram

  8. Aug 26

    How To Train Your Own Intuition Like A Muscle

    Mentors, consultants, and AI can give you better information, but they cannot make the decisions that depend on your goals and context. Ray argues that repeatedly outsourcing the thinking itself can weaken your intuition—and that the better use of outside expertise is to form your own hypothesis first, then invite someone else to challenge it. What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why knowing what to do is often not the real problem.What outside expertise can tell you—and what it cannot know about your business.Why your goals and context make some decisions impossible for an advisor to make for you.How to use advisors without becoming dependent on their answers.Why forming your own hypothesis before asking for advice protects your judgment.How AI makes information cheaper while making independent judgment more important. // Welcome to The Ray J. Green Show, your destination for tips on sales, strategy, and self-mastery from an operator, not a guru. About Ray: → Former Managing Director of National Small & Midsize Business at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, where he doubled revenue per sale in fundraising, led the first increase in SMB membership, co-built a national Mid-Market sales channel, and more. → Former CEO operator for several investor groups where he led turnarounds of recently acquired small businesses. → Current founder of MSP Sales Partners, where we currently help IT companies scale sales: www.MSPSalesPartners.com → Current Sales & Sales Management Expert in Residence at the world’s largest IT business mastermind. → Current Managing Partner of Repeatable Revenue Ventures, where we scale B2B companies we have equity in: www.RayJGreen.com // Follow Ray on: YouTube | LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram

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Practical sales and marketing for MSPs and IT service providers who want to grow. Hosted by Ray J. Green — founder of MSP Sales Partners, former PE-backed CEO, and former Managing Director at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Interviews with top MSP sellers and founders who’ve exited, plus short solo episodes on building pipeline, closing deals, and managing sales teams. New episodes almost every day.

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