Restaurant Operator

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This podcast series from the publishers of FastCasual.com, PizzaMarketplace.com and QSRweb.com provides restaurant owners and executives with the insights and inspiration they need to grow their brands. Each episode features interviews with experienced restauranteurs, industry experts, and thought leaders, who share practical tips and advice for running a successful restaurant business.

  1. Sep 23

    Why Dillas Quesadillas simplified its menu to prepare for growth

    Sometimes growing a restaurant brand means adding more, but for Dillas Quesadillas, the path forward meant taking things away. The Texas-based concept recently overhauled its menu, cutting the number of signature quesadillas from 10 to six and simplifying its meal structure. The changes weren't driven by a lack of ideas but by something much more fundamental: learning from how the customers ordered. Co-founders Kyle and Maggie Gordon discussed the strategy during a recent Restaurant Operator Podcast with Mandy Detwiler. When Dillas opened 13 years ago, the founders envisioned a menu built around 10 signature quesadillas. Over time, however, the company began eliminating lower-performing items that required additional ingredients. That move was made after watching how customers actually ordered. One behavior stood out: About 75% of customers were turning their quesadilla orders into meals by adding sides and drinks. So Dillas made the decision to simplify its menu based on customer preferences. Today, the streamlined menu features six signature quesadillas, with meals including fries and a drink. Fries already were the brand's most popular side. Simplifying the drive-thru The changes were particularly important when the Gordons considered how customers interacted with Dillas. More than half of its business comes through the drive-thru, and 85% of its food leaves the restaurant in a bag rather than being consumed in the dining room. That means convenience, speed and accuracy are critical. New customers also sometimes found 10 signature quesadillas overwhelming, requiring employees to spend more time explaining the menu. Since deploying the simplified menu last year, Kyle Gordon said Dillas has reduced drive-thru times by approximately 30 seconds. The benefits have extended to employees as well. Knowing that every meal comes with fries and a drink means restaurant teams can continuously cook fries instead of waiting to see which sides customers select. That simplification also has helped address another issue the Gordons heard through customer feedback: order accuracy. "You need to simplify the menu to help us be more accurate," Kyle Gordon said of feedback from the team. Don't alienate the diehards Simplification came with a potential risk: What happens to customers whose favorite quesadilla gets cut? Dillas found a compromise. While four lower-selling quesadillas disappeared from the main menu, customers can still recreate them through customization and a "secret menu." One example is the Bluebonnet, a vegetarian quesadilla featuring grilled zucchini, portobello mushrooms, spinach, peppers, and onions. It wasn't a strong enough seller to retain a spot on the main board, but its fans can still order it. "No customers during the transition period ever came to Dillas and ordered their old quesadilla and got told no," Kyle Gordon said. That strategy allowed the Dillas to present a simpler experience to first-time customers while preserving more variety for loyal guests who know the brand. That's particularly important for a concept with ambitious growth plans. Dillas currently has 11 locations, but the founders envision growing to 1,100. And as the company introduces itself to more customers, the Gordons don't want complexity to get in the way. "We're still in the process of building a really big pool of diehards," Kyle Gordon said. Giving the quesadilla 'main character energy' The Gordons' growth strategy rests on their belief that quesadillas deserve a much bigger place in the restaurant industry. They see portability as one of its biggest advantages, particularly as consumers increasingly eat on the go. The format also is familiar enough that it doesn't require much explanation, while providing a platform for customization and experimentation. "We're always talking about the quesadilla having main character energy," Kyle Gordon said. The Gordons believe the format can accommodate changing consumer preferences because almost anything can be placed inside a tortilla. Customers can make a quesadilla simple, indulgent or customized to their preferences. Despite some of Dillas' more elaborate offerings, however, its best-selling quesadilla remains one of its simplest: the Plano, featuring chicken and cheese. "Customers, for better or worse, they just want it simple the majority of the time," Maggie Gordon said. Be brilliant at the basics That lesson extends beyond the menu. As Dillas grows, the founders said they're resisting the temptation to chase every food trend or constantly introduce new products. Instead, they want to focus on consistency. "If we can't deliver on the basics, if we can't be brilliant at the basics, if we can't deliver great service and a smile and an experience and hot, fresh, fast, flavorful food, we don't have any business changing up the menu to add new things," Kyle Gordon said. When the company does experiment, it uses limited-time offers to gauge customer response without adding permanent operational complexity. For the Gordons, that focus reflects more than a menu strategy: It's part of their preparation for Dillas next stage of growth.

  2. Jul 28

    Why Taco Cabana is expanding its franchise beyond the Lone Star State

    After nearly five decades as a beloved Texas icon, Taco Cabana is officially taking its signature breakfast tacos and Mexican-inspired menu across state lines. Spurred by a recent acquisition and a newly designed, smaller-footprint prototype optimized for modern off-premise dining and delivery, the 140-unit chain is launching its first major out-of-state franchise expansion. By strategically targeting contiguous states like Oklahoma, Louisiana and Arkansas, the brand aims to leverage built-in recognition from former Texans while introducing new markets to its unique hybrid of quick-service convenience and fast-casual culinary variety. In this episode of the Restaurant Operator Podcast, host Mandy Detwiler chats with Taco Cabana's director of franchise sales and development, John Ramsay, about the brand's growth and how it is faring in the fast casual market. "Oklahoma Louisiana, and Arkansas are the top three" the brand is growing into, Ramsay said. "I think a couple of things they have in common. Number one is that there's a large percentage of former Texans who have moved into those states. So we already have sort of a built-in marketplace and a market audience. In fact, we get solicitations all the time from people who used to live in Texas that now live in one of these other states saying, please come and put one here in my hometown. "So I would say that's really number one is that having that sort of built in base. I think the other important piece is the menu itself. Taco Cabana, like a lot of Mexican chains that started in Texas have very much, people call it Tex-Mex. Really what it is is it's Mexican inspired food that's more common within the state of Texas. So as you look at those contiguous states, they also have various, their style of Mexican food is very similar to what you would find in Texas." To learn more about Taco Cabana's growth and operations, listen to the podcast in its entirety.

  3. Jul 15

    Dodo Pizza’s playbook for international success

    In this episode of the Pizza Marketplace podcast, host Mandy Detwiler, editor of Pizza Marketplace, chats with Ilya Kholodnov, head of international marketing and sales for Dodo Pizza, and David Sweeney, champion of international franchising for Dodo Pizza, The brand was founded in Russia but is headquartered in Kazakhstan. Dodo Pizza has 1,500 stores and revenue of nearly $2 billion. It's sister company, Drink It, a coffee concept, has 150 stores in five countries. Sweeney attributes the brand's strong sales to its customer service. "I think the key thing is to have a really good customer experience to allow the technology or the technology should enable us to have a really good customer experience because we really look after the customer, make it easy to transact business, make sure the order is easy to place, that there is good variety, but not so much that confuses everybody. Make sure that when the order arrives into our stores, that order is processed in a way that is accurate and then it's timely and priced at roughly the right level for it to be at for the consumer to accept it as a really good value product and for it to arrive on time, hot and the order to be accurate. So the systems enable all of that to happen." Why did a pizza brand move into coffee? "Coffee was actually quite a logical step," Kholodnov said. "So maybe during conversation, you'll find out that our business is based on tech platform. And so it was very logical when we built a strong platform to scale franchise businesses, it was logical to add something more to that. So coffee seemed like a logical step to us." To learn more about Dodo Pizza's international operations, growth and foray into the coffee business, listen to the podcast in its entirety.

  4. Jun 23

    From kitchens to tech hubs: Inside fast casual’s digital revolution

    What happens when the fast-casual restaurant industry doubles in size over a decade? It stops just serving food and starts operating like a high-tech powerhouse. In the latest episode of the Restaurant Operator Podcast, Cherryh Cansler, publisher of FastCasual.com, sits down with Luke Wilwerding, Vice President of North America Sales at Elo Touch Solutions, to unpack the highly anticipated FastCasual Top 100 Movers & Shakers list. With forward-thinking brands like CAVA leading the charge, the conversation centers on an undeniable truth: tomorrow's industry leaders are winning through intelligent automation and sharp data strategies. "Restaurants are becoming a data center that serves food," Wilwerding said, emphasizing that surviving the next decade requires operators to truly get their arms around their customer data. From the blockbuster acquisition of Elo by Zebra Technologies to the deployment of AI-native platforms, this episode offers a masterclass in modern restaurant evolution. Cansler and Wilwerding dive deep into the practicalities of tech adoption for brands of all sizes, tackling the industry's burning questions: Where should an operator spend their very first AI dollar?Will conversational AI replace the human element, or are we moving toward a "beautiful orchestra of voice and touch"?How is Gen Z transforming self-service into a personalization tool?Whether you are curious about predicting demand or optimizing labor through smart kitchen displays, this episode is your blueprint for the future of hospitality. Listen to the full episode now on FastCasual.com

  5. Jun 19

    Wonder, Dave’s Hot Chicken Real Estate VPs reveal growth strategies

    Crafting a solid real estate strategy is obviously central to growing any restaurant brand, but there those plans differ dramatically depending on the brand, a lesson I learned firsthand during a podcast during ICSC in Las Vegas. I sat down with Dannon Shiff, VP of Real Estate for Dave's Hot Chicken, and Abe Nasrallah, SVP of Real Estate at Wonder, to discuss how shifting consumer behavior, off-premise dining and changing market dynamics are shaping site selection. Wondering about growth Wonder, launched in 2021, has grown from a food truck concept to more than 120 locations. The company operates a multi-brand model, offering dozens of restaurant concepts under one roof, with roughly half of sales from delivery and half from in-person dining. Nasrallah told me that Wonder designs sites for two uses: Quick pickup and in-person discovery. Urban locations prioritize high visibility and foot traffic, while suburban sites focus on grocery-anchored centers with strong access and visibility. Wonder is targeting Texas as its next major growth market, planning about 100 locations across Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston Austin and San Antonio. Long term, the company estimates it could expand to 4,000 to 5,000 locations nationwide. The Dave's real estate plan Dave's Hot Chicken, meanwhile, has grown from a 2017 parking lot pop-up to more than 430 locations worldwide. Shiff said the brand has sold franchise rights in all 50 states and multiple international markets, with further global expansion planned, while also testing nontraditional formats such as airports and food courts, including a recent opening in a New York City food court. Delivery and off-premise dining have changed site-selection models, with decisions increasingly driven by customer data rather than traditional trade areas. About one-third of sales come from third-party delivery, while most customers still dine in. To hear more details on both brand's strategies, check out the podcast.

  6. Jun 10

    70 years old and 'restarting': Shakey’s Pizza VP outlines fresh strategy for expansion

    In this episode of the Pizza Marketplace podcast, host Mandy Detwiler, editor of Pizza Marketplace, chats with Sonia Barajas-Najera, vice president of franchise administration for Shakey's Pizza. Shakey's began franchising in the 1950s shortly after it was founded. After a number of ownership changes, the brand currently has 43 units. There's a new flagship in Culver City that took two years to design and create, Barajas-Najera said, and has been well received by consumers who enjoy the restaurant's retro vibes, warm colors and 1980s memorabilia. Shakey's also did a rebrand, but at the core of the company is its food, which remains the same. Shakey's is known for its thin-crust pizza, as well as its pan pizza and proprietary items like its chicken and its iconic Mojo potatoes. With an 80s throwback style at its core, how does Shakeys keep the brand feeling cool for Gen Z while still being a home base for the Gen Xers who grew up there? "There's the Gen X, there's Gen Z. Everyone is in there," Barajas-Najera explained. "We've created a place that has allowed people to come in and just be themselves and disconnect from everything that we're always doing, rushing. We're coining it as slow, casual, because we're not fast, we're not casual. We're just a slow casual. Come in, have a good time, be entertained." When looking for franchisees, Barajas-Najera said they seek people who are passionate about the Shakey's Pizza brand. The Shakey's team gives its franchisees lots of support before, during and after opening. Barajas-Najera suggests potential franchisees do their due diligence and really research a brand before signing on the dotted line. Shakey's is a brand with 70 years of experience behind it, but it's going through an exciting chapter. "We feel like we're restarting," Barajas-Najera said. "We're just relaunching." To learn more about Shakey's and Barajas-Najera's role in its expansion plans, listen to the podcast in its entirety.

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This podcast series from the publishers of FastCasual.com, PizzaMarketplace.com and QSRweb.com provides restaurant owners and executives with the insights and inspiration they need to grow their brands. Each episode features interviews with experienced restauranteurs, industry experts, and thought leaders, who share practical tips and advice for running a successful restaurant business.