Table of ContentsListen to the Episode with Sarah BurbyEpisode Transcript – Intuitive Eating with Sarah BurbyFAQ with Sarah BurbyMeet Sarah Burby M.A., BCBA, NBC-HWC Listen to the Episode with Sarah Burby Episode Transcript – Intuitive Eating with Sarah Burby Welcome everyone, I am here with Sarah Burby who is a health coach and she’s the owner of Small Changes Health and Wellness Coaching where she supports and empowers her clients to meet their health and wellness goals by focusing on small, sustainable changes that they can maintain for the rest of their lives. She also helps her clients heal their relationship with food and exercise as well as improve their body image. Welcome Sarah. I’m actually really excited about this episode because this is the meat, I hate to use, I don’t eat meat, but the meat of like what this whole brand is about. So having coaches, you know, intuitive eating, health at every size, really promoting that weight neutral approach to health is really important. So I’m excited. So start kind of at the beginning. What brought you to this point? What is your origin story? Sarah Burby: Yeah, so I have kind of a long and not very straight way. I got a master’s degree in applied behavior analysis. And typically ABA is most commonly associated with autism. So working with with children, adults on the autism spectrum. And I think there’s a great need for that. And I think I will always love working in that space in some capacity. But I just thought, you know, how cool would it be to apply the science of applied behavior analysis to health and wellness. And at the time when I was in graduate school, which feels like yesterday, but was like 10, 11 years ago, no one is really doing that yet. Everyone was saying, oh, you can apply ABA anywhere. But but it was really only widely applied to autism. So at the time, being new in the field and not really having my feet wet yet, I just didn’t have, I guess, maybe the confidence or the direction of how to get into this field. So then kind of fast forward, a few years later, I started really taking on some additional certifications. I got a health coaching certification, a nutrition certification, most recently an intuitive eating counselor certification and just started to kind of build up my expertise in that area. So then I could feel confident in applying ABA to health coaching. Sarah Burby: So in 2020, the famous 2020 year, I opened Small Changes Health and Wellness Coaching, where I primarily coach based using the science of ABA, but with an intuitive eating framework. So it sounded like you were kind of like on a teacher track, like you were going to be a teacher. Very similar school conflict, working in school as a consultant. But you took the knowledge that you gained and you said, oh, you know what, I really want to apply this to health and health and wellness. What prompted you to want to apply it in that area? Sarah Burby: I think I’ve always been really interested in that area. Personally, I’ve had my own personal journey of poor body image and kind of orthorexic type behavior with this obsession with being healthy. And I went through that and I had that struggle and it I went through it for for many years. I aspire now to be what I wish I had 15, 10, 15 years ago. So that’s kind of what piqued my interest. And again, to me, the science of applied behavior analysis just so naturally flowed into health coaching, right? Because behavior is behavior, whether we’re talking about maybe reducing maladaptive behavior and then individual with autism and trying to teach some replace the behaviors or we’re talking about, you know, behavior as far as your relationship with exercise, your relationship with food. To me, it’s all it’s all the same thing, right? It’s just how we address it. So I think that’s kind of where my interest kind of sparked. So it was your own personal journey that that shaped the direction that you you saw you saw an opportunity to take what you were learning and apply it in a way that would have been helpful for you for your own personal experience. And I love that we are seeing now so many coaches and trainers. It has really come a long way in the last few years and recognizing the harm that’s being done with, you know, pushing over exercising, under eating, calorie counting, all that stuff. Really the long-term effects of it. So we talk a lot here about intuitive eating. Can you talk about how intuitive eating and mindfulness are integrated into the process that you use with your clients? Sarah Burby: Yeah, so and the missing of your listeners already have a backstory of what intuitive eating is, but just a quick, you know, recap. It’s really healing your relationship with food, healing your relationship with exercise, and also healing your relationship with yourself, right? Like, like, what do you think of yourself when you look in the mirror? Do you do like what you see? And if you don’t like what you see, are you perseverating on it all day? Is that constantly what you’re thinking about? And to me, that’s health, right? Like we think about health and we think about what we eat and we think about exercise, but we don’t think about this constant, what the constant stress of constantly worrying about what you’re eating and you’re putting into your body or constantly worrying about if you’re getting the most intense exercise in, like that affects our health so much too. Sarah Burby: So with intuitive eating, I really like to, number one, work with my clients and say, it’s not just eating, right? The name intuitive eating is we think it’s just eating skills, but it’s so much more raw than that. And there’s so many different areas we can work on. Like I said, with exercise, repairing your relationship with exercise and movement, how you, how you feel about yourself and kind of breaking down maybe what area of the client is struggling the most, starting with that, and then going into all the different aspects of intuitive eating. I do appreciate that you gave us that description of what intuitive eating is because they could be the first time here and learning about that. So this is really important. You just mentioned that, you know, Learning to eat intuitively can impact mental health, physical health. Why is that important? Sarah Burby: There’s such a strong focus or push, if that’s the right word, on, on weight loss and looking a certain way and having this like ideal body. And I think that was probably always around, but now with every social media app and platform there is out there, it’s certainly getting worse and it’s starting at a younger age. There’s this like pressure to have to look a certain way or eat a certain way. And that’s not reality, right? And it’s really, really harmful, but I also think it’s the norm. So it’s really hard to kind of separate from that. And that’s where I see the importance of intuitive eating is like talking even about body diversity, right? I talk about that with my clients all the time is like you and I could literally eat the exact same thing every single day for the rest of our lives. We could exercise the exact same way every day for the rest of our lives. And we are never going to look exactly the same because we have a different genetic blueprint, but that’s not pretty to talk about on social media. That’s not glamorous. Sarah Burby: Like no one wants to post about that on social media because it’s not as glamorous as, Oh, I lost 30 pounds in a month by drinking the shake or going on this diet. You know what I mean? So I think intuitive eating is more, it’s a little bit deeper, but I think it’s so, so important because of all these messages that we’re getting. And I kind of say the opposite and kind of glamorize really restricted eating or over exercise and things like that to get, like I said, this ideal body, which is so silly because what does that even look like? It’s an illusion, right? And unfortunately we live in a world where being in a smaller body is idealized, right? We live in a world that favors people in smaller bodies. So I don’t, I don’t shame anybody and I don’t fault anybody for having the feelings like, Oh, you know what, I look in the mirror and I wish that, you know, smaller because you know what? Your life would maybe be easier, right? This is the world that we live in, but we’re all doing our part here to normalize, like you said, body diversity and acceptance and respect for people in all different shapes, sizes. I love that this is becoming more widespread and people like you are sharing the good word. And especially on social media where you said it’s teens, young adults on these platforms and they’re being bombarded by all this messaging. So I love that this is, this is becoming more popular. So we talked a little bit about diet culture, the prevalence of this messaging and how harmful it is. What are some, some negative impacts that you’re seeing on your clients due to exposure to diet culture? Sarah Burby: Oh, I see a lot, a lot of, um, labeling how they eat as good or bad, right? So like I ate a salad last night, I was good. Or I ate ice cream last night, I was bad. And, and that breaks my heart when I hear things like that, because I’m like, well, did you enjoy the ice cream? Yeah. Okay. Like, like their food is neutral, right? It’s not good or bad. But if you look at diet culture and again, social media, it’s, it’s, um, putting food into these categories. Even the term clean heat, clean eat