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Lauren Spigelmyer & Jessica Doering
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To help people who help people, the organization needs to be healthy and have practices in place that consider the trauma of those they serve. Lauren Spigelmyer and Jessica Doering have helped thousands of people who help people all over the world. Each week they'll explore tools, insights, and stories to help you lead and live with more clarity, calm, and connection. If you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.

  1. 3D AGO

    Clarity as a Safety Cue

    Lauren explores why clarity is one of the most powerful safety cues a leader can offer in high-pressure systems. Rather than micromanagement, clear expectations help regulate the nervous system by creating predictability, reducing rumination, and allowing people to think, decide, and perform more effectively. This episode also examines the cost of ambiguity, from burnout to disengagement, and offers guidance on providing clarity without over-detailing. Lauren invites leaders to reflect on where clearer structure could support greater psychological safety and sustainability at work.  Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: When Leaders Become the StressorEpisode 2: Authority Without FearEpisode 1: What Stress Does to Decision MakingThe Pause Between Now and NextLeading From a Regulated CoreDesigning Rhythms that RegulateWhen Culture DysregulatesGrowth & Feedback Without FearOnboarding as Co-RegulationPolicy as a Nervous SystemWhy Women in Leadership MicromanageThe Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReset: Moving from Relief to Real Transformation Our Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    19 min

  2. JAN 27

    When Leaders Become the Stressor

    In this episode, Lauren explores how leadership stress can quickly spread through a team and shape trust, communication, and performance. She reflects on how awareness of your own regulation is a core leadership skill and why noticing tension early can change the entire direction of a meeting or organization. Lauren also shares practical guidance on repair as a leadership strength. By naming impact, taking responsibility, and restoring clarity and predictability, leaders can rebuild trust without losing authority and create steadier, healthier teams even under pressure. Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Resources:  Rising Strong by Brene Brown Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: Episode 2: Authority Without FearEpisode 1: What Stress Does to Decision MakingThe Pause Between Now and NextLeading From a Regulated CoreDesigning Rhythms that RegulateWhen Culture DysregulatesGrowth & Feedback Without FearOnboarding as Co-RegulationPolicy as a Nervous SystemWhy Women in Leadership MicromanageThe Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReset: Moving from Relief to Real Transformation Our Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    24 min

  3. JAN 20

    Episode 2: Authority Without Fear

    In this episode, Lauren continues the Leading Under Pressure series by exploring how authority and power shape the nervous system and why leadership is never neutral. She unpacks how fear based practices drive compliance, silence, and burnout, while regulated authority builds safety, clarity, and trust.  This episode offers insight into shifting from control to connection, showing how presence, tone, and timing shape safety more than policy. Lauren closes with a simple reminder to pause before you release and lead with intention.  Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: Episode 1: What Stress Does to Decision MakingThe Pause Between Now and NextLeading From a Regulated CoreDesigning Rhythms that RegulateWhen Culture DysregulatesGrowth & Feedback Without FearOnboarding as Co-RegulationPolicy as a Nervous SystemWhy Women in Leadership MicromanageThe Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five Ives Our Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    25 min

  4. JAN 13

    Episode 1: What Stress Does to Decision-Making

    Lauren starts a new series on leading under pressure, looking at how chronic stress shifts the way leaders think, decide, and lead. She explains how dysregulation narrows perspective and pushes people into urgency, control, and short term thinking.  This episode reframes those patterns through a nervous system lens and shows how small moments of regulation can bring leaders back to clarity and trust.  Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Resources: Jim KwikOther related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: The Pause Between Now and NextLeading From a Regulated CoreDesigning Rhythms that RegulateWhen Culture DysregulatesGrowth & Feedback Without FearOnboarding as Co-RegulationPolicy as a Nervous SystemMeetings that Calm, Not DrainWhy Women in Leadership MicromanageThe Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five IvesStrive- The Third Stage of the Five Ives Our Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    25 min

  5. JAN 6

    The Pause Between Now and Next

    Lauren opens the new year with an invitation to pause between “now and next.” This episode creates space to reflect on the past year, release what no longer serves, and move forward with more clarity and steadiness instead of urgency or burnout. Lauren explores how pausing supports nervous system regulation, sustainable leadership, and intentional design. Listeners are encouraged to do less on purpose and reset their systems for a more unhurried year ahead. Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: Leading From a Regulated CoreDesigning Rhythms that RegulateWhen Culture DysregulatesGrowth & Feedback Without FearOnboarding as Co-RegulationPolicy as a Nervous SystemMeetings that Calm, Not DrainThe Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five IvesStrive- The Third Stage of the Five IvesRevive- The Second Stage of the Five IvesSurvive- The First Stage of the Five IvesOur Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    19 min

  6. 12/30/2025

    Leading from a Regulated Core

    In this episode, Lauren explores what it means to lead from a regulated core and why a leader’s internal state is the most powerful influence on culture, safety, and decision-making. She explains how nervous system regulation shapes teams long before words or strategies do and shares simple, practical micro-regulation tools leaders can use before meetings, conversations, and decisions to reduce reactivity, increase clarity, and build psychological safety across organizations. Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: Designing Rhythms that RegulateWhen Culture DysregulatesGrowth & Feedback Without FearOnboarding as Co-RegulationPolicy as a Nervous SystemMeetings that Calm, Not DrainThe Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReinforce- Ensuring that Change becomes Cultural Muscle Memory  Reset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five IvesStrive- The Third Stage of the Five IvesRevive- The Second Stage of the Five IvesSurvive- The First Stage of the Five IvesOur Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    32 min

  7. 12/23/2025

    Designing Rhythms that Regulate

    Lauren explores how rhythm regulates both the nervous system and organizations, showing how predictable routines create safety, clarity, and capacity, while chaos increases stress and burnout. She shares practical examples of daily, weekly, monthly, and quarterly rhythms leaders can use to replace urgency with coherence, and invites listeners to try one regulating rhythm and notice how it shifts energy and pace over time. Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: When Culture DysregulatesGrowth & Feedback Without FearOnboarding as Co-RegulationPolicy as a Nervous SystemMeetings that Calm, Not DrainThe Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReinforce- Ensuring that Change becomes Cultural Muscle Memory  Reset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationThe Regulated Team: Creating Cultures that BreatheHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five IvesStrive- The Third Stage of the Five IvesRevive- The Second Stage of the Five IvesSurvive- The First Stage of the Five IvesOur Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    21 min

  8. 12/16/2025

    When Culture Dysregulates

    Lauren explores how organizational culture acts as a nervous system and the signs that show when it’s stuck in survival mode. She explains how unclear communication, chronic urgency, and dysregulated leadership quietly shape how teams feel, function, and perform.  She also shares simple ways leaders can restore regulation through tone, emotional repair, and small moments of co-regulation that rebuild trust and create a calmer, more sustainable workplace. Sign up for the University of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Learn about the Staff Sustainability System a proven system to reduce burnout at the root Other related resources from Five Ives:  Blog Post:  Why Traditional Employee Wellness Programs Fail (And What Works Instead)Survive Mode: Recognizing When Your Organization is in CrisisWhat are the Five Ives?Podcast: Growth & Feedback Without FearOnboarding as Co-RegulationPolicy as a Nervous SystemMeetings that Calm, Not DrainThe Regulated Organization: What it Means to be a Regulated OrganizationRetain: Sustaining Staff, Culture, and CapacityReinforce- Ensuring that Change becomes Cultural Muscle Memory  Reset: Moving from Relief to Real TransformationThe Regulated Team: Creating Cultures that BreatheHive- The Last Stage of the Five IvesThrive- The Fourth Stage of the Five IvesStrive- The Third Stage of the Five IvesRevive- The Second Stage of the Five IvesSurvive- The First Stage of the Five IvesOur Online Programs:  Behavior BreakthroughPolicing Under PressureBoard Governance TrainingUniversity of Pennsylvania Behavior Breakthrough Accredited Course Subscribe to our mailing list and find out more about Stress, Trauma, Behavior and the Brain! Check out our Facebook Group – Five Ives!Five Ives Website websiteThe Behavior Hub blogIf you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.  Schedule a free discovery call and let us be your guide As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

    22 min
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To help people who help people, the organization needs to be healthy and have practices in place that consider the trauma of those they serve. Lauren Spigelmyer and Jessica Doering have helped thousands of people who help people all over the world. Each week they'll explore tools, insights, and stories to help you lead and live with more clarity, calm, and connection. If you’re looking for support as you grow your organization’s capacity for caring for staff and the community, we would love to be part of that journey.

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  • Creator
    Lauren Spigelmyer & Jessica Doering
  • Years Active
    2021 - 2026
  • Episodes
    230
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © 2026 The Behavior Hub
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