Right There With You

Cass Cooper | The Chaos Whisperer

Right There With You is a leadership podcast for those of us navigating the intersections of work, life, and pressure in real time. Cass Cooper, The Chaos Whisperer™, breaks down what’s actually happening beneath burnout, misalignment, and leadership fatigue. Giving name, language, and permission to move differently. Each episode focuses on real tensions through expert conversations and real-world insight. We don’t just tell stories—we diagnose what’s not working and reframe how to lead through it. Here we know that: Soft skills are not soft. They are infrastructure.Burnout is a design flaw, not a character one.Clarity is how we stop surviving chaos and start leading through it. Join the Community:✨ Patreon: patreon.com/RightThereWithYou ✨ And Follow Cass: www.TikTok.com/just_cass2.0

  1. 4d ago

    When the Life You Built No Longer Fits the Future You Want: Burnout, Over-Functioning & Reinvention

    What happens when the life you worked so hard to build no longer fits the future you want? In this solo episode, Cass shares a realization that took years to fully understand: burnout got her attention, but it wasn't the whole story. Just weeks after buying her first home, accepting a new leadership role, and checking every box she thought success required, the world shut down. What she felt wasn't panic—it was relief. That moment sparked a deeper question: What if the problem isn't that you're failing? What if you've simply outgrown the life you built? 💭 In this episode: ✨ Why burnout is often a signal—not the root issue ✨ The hidden cost of over-functioning ✨ How achievement can quietly become a survival strategy ✨ What happens when success stops feeling like success ✨ The difference between exhaustion and disconnection ✨ How to recognize when a life that once made sense no longer fits 💡 Key Takeaways • Burnout often gets our attention, but it may not be the whole story. • Over-functioning is frequently rewarded, making it difficult to recognize when it has become unsustainable. • Disconnection happens gradually when we spend years prioritizing everyone else's needs over our own. • Sometimes the goal isn't getting back to who you used to be. Sometimes the goal is understanding who you've become. • Clarity isn't a luxury—it's how we make sense of work, life, and pressure in real time. 🗣️ Memorable Quotes "The more indispensable you become to everyone else, the easier it becomes to disappear from yourself." "I spent years building a relationship with achievement and almost no time maintaining a relationship with myself." "Some people aren't burned out from work itself. They're burned out from constantly performing versions of themselves that no longer feel true." "Clarity isn't always knowing exactly where you're going. Sometimes it's recognizing what no longer belongs." 🎯 Ready for More Clarity? The Clarity Sprint is a focused 90-minute coaching experience designed for people who feel successful on paper but disconnected from their own lives. Together we'll identify what's creating friction, what expectations you're carrying, and what clarity might look like moving forward. 🔗 Learn more at iamcasscooper.com ❤️ If you've ever looked around at a life that appears successful on paper but feels increasingly disconnected from who you're becoming, this episode is for you. Because the future you want may require a different version of success. Continue the Conversation Join the Right There With You Patreon community, where we continue these conversations about burnout, leadership, work, life, and making sense of pressure in real time. Because clarity isn't something you find. It's something you build. Hosted by Cass Cooper, The Chaos Whisperer™ Making Sense of Work, Life, and Pressure in Real Time. Website: https://imcasscooper.com Instagram: @just_cass2.0 TikTok: @just_cass2.0 LinkedIn: Cass R. Cooper

    15 min

  2. Jun 16

    What If You Fly? Burnout, Reinvention, and the Myth of the Perfect Career

    What if the life you're meant to build doesn't look anything like the one you planned? In this episode of Right There With You, Cass sits down with leadership expert, entrepreneur, and founder of It's Not That Serious, Carrie Hunter, for an honest conversation about burnout, reinvention, and why success is rarely a straight line. After spending years building a successful career in technology and construction, Carrie found herself facing a reality many high-achieving women know all too well: the version of success she'd worked so hard to create was no longer sustainable. What followed was a difficult but necessary reset that ultimately led her toward a more authentic life and purpose. Together, Cass and Carrie explore the hidden costs of perfectionism, the loneliness that often accompanies leadership, and why so many women feel trapped between the expectations they've inherited and the lives they actually want. If you've ever wondered whether it's too late to change direction, redefine success, or pursue something that feels more aligned, this conversation is for you. In This EpisodeThe difference between stress and true burnoutWhy self-care alone won't solve burnoutThe hidden loneliness many women experience in leadershipLetting go of the myth of the perfect career pathHow fear keeps us stuck in situations we've outgrownThe role of community, storytelling, and vulnerability in healingWhy passion matters more than having everything figured outHow to stop focusing on "What if I fail?" and start asking "What if I fly?"About Carrie HunterCarrie Hunter is the CEO and founder of It's Not That Serious, a global women's lifestyle brand and storytelling platform focused on community, mentorship, joy, and reinvention. With more than 25 years of leadership experience spanning technology, construction, and executive leadership, Carrie is passionate about helping women build meaningful careers while staying connected to themselves and each other. LinkedIn: Carrie Hunter TikTok: @carrie_denver Website: www.itsnotthatserious.com Continue the ConversationJoin the Right There With You Patreon community, where we continue these conversations about burnout, leadership, work, life, and making sense of pressure in real time. Because clarity isn't something you find. It's something you build. Hosted by Cass Cooper, The Chaos Whisperer™ Making Sense of Work, Life, and Pressure in Real Time. Website: https://imcasscooper.com Instagram: @just_cass2.0 TikTok: @just_cass2.0 LinkedIn: Cass R. Cooper

    35 min

  3. Jun 10

    Healing Isn't Hustle

    What if your exhaustion is not a personal failure — but evidence that the pace was never sustainable to begin with? In this episode of Right There With You, Cass Cooper sits down with theologian, storyteller, and community advocate Ciara Jones for an honest conversation about burnout, nervous system exhaustion, identity, and the pressure Black women often feel to survive at impossible speeds. Together, they unpack how hustle culture disconnects people from their bodies, how overachievement becomes a coping mechanism, and why healing cannot happen inside systems that constantly demand performance. This conversation is not about optimizing yourself harder. It’s about reimagining rest, redefining worth, and learning how to build a life that does not require constant self-abandonment. In This EpisodeWhy society often rewards visible distress more than genuine well-beingThe emotional and physical signs of chronic burnoutHow Black women are conditioned to normalize survival modeThe connection between identity, usefulness, and overworkWhy rest is a form of reconnection — not lazinessThe spiritual consequences of never slowing downCommunity care, support systems, and ecosystems of healingWhat “new information, new decision” means in recoveryWhy quitting can sometimes be wisdom instead of failureReimagining identity outside of achievement and productivityKey TakeawaysExhaustion is not proof of worth.Survival mode is not the same thing as living.Healing requires honesty about your actual capacity.Burnout is often systemic before it becomes personal.Rest is not something you earn after collapse.Community is essential to recovery and regulation.You are allowed to outgrow identities built around suffering.Memorable Quotes“Society rewards distress, not well-being.” “New information, new decision.” “It’s okay to quit every day if you need to.” “Some people are not burned out from work alone. They’re burned out from never feeling safe enough to rest.” “Healing starts the moment we stop treating exhaustion like a professional flaw.” Guest: Ciara JonesCiara Jones is a theologian, storyteller, and community-centered advocate whose work explores spirituality, embodiment, healing, and emotional honesty. Through her platform and practice, she helps people reconnect with themselves outside the demands of performance culture and chronic overfunctioning. Connect with CiaraInstagram: TheGardeningTheologian Connect with Cass CooperWebsite: https://imcasscooper.com Instagram: @just_cass2.0 TikTok: @just_cass2.0 LinkedIn: Cass R. Cooper Right There With You is a podcast about leadership, emotional honesty, burnout, identity, and learning how to stop surviving long enough to actually live.

    48 min

  4. Jun 4

    Let's Talk About Burnout

    Hosted by Cass Cooper What if work-life balance was never actually possible? In the premiere episode of Season 3 of Right There With You, Cass Cooper unpacks the pressure of trying to “balance” life inside systems that reward exhaustion, over-functioning, and constant productivity. This episode explores: why burnout is often a systems issue, not a personal failurethe difference between balance and rhythmhigh-functioning burnout and emotional fatigueidentity, ambition, and overextensionrebuilding after self-doubt, disruption, and reinventionCass also shares the deeply personal truth behind relaunching the podcast again after years of helping other people amplify their voices while quietly questioning her own. This conversation is not about perfection. It’s about honesty. Because clarity is how we stop surviving chaos and start leading through it. About Cass CooperCass Cooper is a speaker, writer, strategist, and leadership advisor known as The Chaos Whisperer™. Her work focuses on leadership, emotional intelligence, burnout prevention, organizational culture, communication, and clarity in high-pressure environments. Through speaking, consulting, podcasting, and digital education, Cass helps leaders, creators, and organizations navigate complexity while building more sustainable and human-centered ways of working and living. She is the founder of Know Better Do Better Consulting and Know Better Studios. Key TakeawaysWork-life balance is often an unrealistic expectation, not a sustainable strategyBurnout can show up as numbness, disconnection, and loss of selfHigh performers frequently normalize overextensionSustainable leadership requires rhythm, not perfectionClarity starts with honesty about what is no longer working Connect with Cass CooperWebsite: iamcasscooper.com LinkedIn: Cass Cooper on LinkedIn TikTok: @just_cass2.0 Want More?If this episode gave language to the exhaustion, overwhelm, or misalignment you’ve been carrying, the Burnout Bundle was built for exactly this kind of season. Because burnout is not always about doing too much. Sometimes it’s about carrying a life that no longer fits.

    10 min

  5. Season 3 Trailer

    Season 3 Trailer

    A leadership podcast that breaks down burnout, work-life rhythm, and the hidden systems shaping how we work and live. Hosted by Cass Cooper, The Chaos Whisperer™, each episode diagnoses real challenges and gives you the clarity to lead through them.

    1 min

  6. 12/17/2025

    Look Back At It: 2025 in Review

    It’s the end of 2025 and 2026 is “coming in hot,” so Ciarra and Cass take a breath and do what we all say we’re going to do… but rarely actually do: look back at the year with honesty. They unpack the messy mix of grief and growth, the pressure Black women carry to be “perfect,” and how burnout shows up in the body (including Ciarra’s vocal nodules). From hustle identity to community care, they explore what it means to build a life that’s not just productive, but humane. The episode closes with a powerful “sacred dissent” exchange—each friend naming what they hope the other carries into 2026: less pressure, more self-trust, deeper receiving, and a reminder that you don’t have to “arrive” to be worthy. 🌿 Find Cass & Ciarra Online ✨ Instagram: @RightThereWithYouPod ✨ Patreon: patreon.com/thecommunitygarden ✨ Cass: iamcasscooper.com | TikTok @just_cass2.0 ✨ Ciarra: ciarajonesconsulting.com | TikTok @thegardeningtheologian

    37 min

  7. 12/02/2025

    Hell, Whiteness, and the Myth of Punishment: A Conversation with Tamice Spencer-Helms & Brian Recker

    What if God was never a punisher—and hell was never the point? In this powerful episode of Right There With You, hosts Cass Cooper and Ciarra Jones sit down with public theologians Tamice Spencer-Helms (Faith Unleavened) and Brian Recker (Hell Bent) to explore how fear, whiteness, and Christian supremacy have shaped American Christianity and the spiritual lives of millions. Together, they unpack: How hell theology produces fear, shame, and controlWhy a punitive view of God leads to a punitive societyThe role of whiteness in shaping Christian identity, belonging, and powerWhat it means to be Black, queer, and spiritually rooted outside colonized faithHow to heal from religious trauma and rebuild spirituality in loveWhy restorative justice aligns more with Jesus than fear-based salvationThe wilderness between Trayvon Martin and George Floyd—and what liberation looks like after lossThis conversation is tender, challenging, funny, and liberating. It’s for anyone navigating deconstruction, exvangelical healing, racial justice, queerness, parenting, divorce, co-parenting, or redefining their relationship to God. If you’ve ever feared hell, questioned God’s love, or felt pushed out of church spaces—you’re right there with us. Featured GuestsTamice Spencer-HelmsAuthor of Faith Unleavened: The Wilderness Between Trayvon Martin & George Floyd Founder, theologian, cultural critic, and co-creator of The Ember Gathering, a post-evangelical liberation event. Brian ReckerAuthor of Hell Bent: How the Fear of Hell Holds Christians Back from a Spirituality of Love Former evangelical pastor, restorative justice advocate, and co-founder of The Ember Gathering. 🌿 Find Cass & Ciarra Online ✨ Instagram: @RightThereWithYouPod ✨ Patreon: patreon.com/thecommunitygarden ✨ Cass: iamcasscooper.com | TikTok @just_cass2.0 ✨ Ciarra: ciarajonesconsulting.com | TikTok @thegardeningtheologian

    51 min

  8. 11/18/2025

    The Male Gaze is NOT Ministry: Feminism, Faith, and the Fight for Sacred Agency

    In this episode of Right There With You, Cass and Ciarra tackle the uncomfortable truth: the male gaze is not ministry. From pulpits to platforms, patriarchal theology has long defined what holiness looks like—especially for women and queer folks. Together, they explore how deconstruction, feminism, and faith intersect when the church’s obsession with purity, power, and performance collides with real people’s lives. The conversation dives deep into spiritual grooming, gendered accountability, sexual repression, and performative forgiveness, asking: what happens when control is mistaken for care? Cass and Ciarra illuminate the path toward sacred agency, reminding listeners that embodiment, truth-telling, and community care are not rebellion—they’re revival. 🌿 Find Cass & Ciarra Online ✨ Instagram: @RightThereWithYouPod ✨ Patreon: patreon.com/thecommunitygarden ✨ Cass: iamcasscooper.com | TikTok @just_cass2.0 ✨ Ciarra: ciarajonesconsulting.com | TikTok @thegardeningtheologian

    43 min
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Right There With You is a leadership podcast for those of us navigating the intersections of work, life, and pressure in real time. Cass Cooper, The Chaos Whisperer™, breaks down what’s actually happening beneath burnout, misalignment, and leadership fatigue. Giving name, language, and permission to move differently. Each episode focuses on real tensions through expert conversations and real-world insight. We don’t just tell stories—we diagnose what’s not working and reframe how to lead through it. Here we know that: Soft skills are not soft. They are infrastructure.Burnout is a design flaw, not a character one.Clarity is how we stop surviving chaos and start leading through it. Join the Community:✨ Patreon: patreon.com/RightThereWithYou ✨ And Follow Cass: www.TikTok.com/just_cass2.0

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  • Creator
    Cass Cooper | The Chaos Whisperer
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    23
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2025 Cass Cooper | The Chaos Whisperer

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