Right There With You

Cass Cooper | The Chaos Whisperer
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Right There With You is a leadership podcast for those of us navigating the intersections of work, life, and pressure in real time. Cass Cooper, The Chaos Whisperer™, breaks down what’s actually happening beneath burnout, misalignment, and leadership fatigue. Giving name, language, and permission to move differently. Each episode focuses on real tensions through expert conversations and real-world insight. We don’t just tell stories—we diagnose what’s not working and reframe how to lead through it. Here we know that: Soft skills are not soft. They are infrastructure.Burnout is a design flaw, not a character one.Clarity is how we stop surviving chaos and start leading through it. Join the Community:✨ Patreon: patreon.com/chaostoclarity ✨ And Follow Cass: www.TikTok.com/just_cass2.0

  1. 12/17/2025

    Look Back At It: 2025 in Review

    It’s the end of 2025 and 2026 is “coming in hot,” so Ciarra and Cass take a breath and do what we all say we’re going to do… but rarely actually do: look back at the year with honesty. They unpack the messy mix of grief and growth, the pressure Black women carry to be “perfect,” and how burnout shows up in the body (including Ciarra’s vocal nodules). From hustle identity to community care, they explore what it means to build a life that’s not just productive, but humane. The episode closes with a powerful “sacred dissent” exchange—each friend naming what they hope the other carries into 2026: less pressure, more self-trust, deeper receiving, and a reminder that you don’t have to “arrive” to be worthy. 🌿 Find Cass & Ciarra Online ✨ Instagram: @RightThereWithYouPod ✨ Patreon: patreon.com/thecommunitygarden ✨ Cass: iamcasscooper.com | TikTok @just_cass2.0 ✨ Ciarra: ciarajonesconsulting.com | TikTok @thegardeningtheologian

    37 min

  2. 12/02/2025

    Hell, Whiteness, and the Myth of Punishment: A Conversation with Tamice Spencer-Helms & Brian Recker

    What if God was never a punisher—and hell was never the point? In this powerful episode of Right There With You, hosts Cass Cooper and Ciarra Jones sit down with public theologians Tamice Spencer-Helms (Faith Unleavened) and Brian Recker (Hell Bent) to explore how fear, whiteness, and Christian supremacy have shaped American Christianity and the spiritual lives of millions. Together, they unpack: How hell theology produces fear, shame, and controlWhy a punitive view of God leads to a punitive societyThe role of whiteness in shaping Christian identity, belonging, and powerWhat it means to be Black, queer, and spiritually rooted outside colonized faithHow to heal from religious trauma and rebuild spirituality in loveWhy restorative justice aligns more with Jesus than fear-based salvationThe wilderness between Trayvon Martin and George Floyd—and what liberation looks like after lossThis conversation is tender, challenging, funny, and liberating. It’s for anyone navigating deconstruction, exvangelical healing, racial justice, queerness, parenting, divorce, co-parenting, or redefining their relationship to God. If you’ve ever feared hell, questioned God’s love, or felt pushed out of church spaces—you’re right there with us. Featured GuestsTamice Spencer-HelmsAuthor of Faith Unleavened: The Wilderness Between Trayvon Martin & George Floyd Founder, theologian, cultural critic, and co-creator of The Ember Gathering, a post-evangelical liberation event. Brian ReckerAuthor of Hell Bent: How the Fear of Hell Holds Christians Back from a Spirituality of Love Former evangelical pastor, restorative justice advocate, and co-founder of The Ember Gathering. 🌿 Find Cass & Ciarra Online ✨ Instagram: @RightThereWithYouPod ✨ Patreon: patreon.com/thecommunitygarden ✨ Cass: iamcasscooper.com | TikTok @just_cass2.0 ✨ Ciarra: ciarajonesconsulting.com | TikTok @thegardeningtheologian

    51 min

  3. 11/18/2025

    The Male Gaze is NOT Ministry: Feminism, Faith, and the Fight for Sacred Agency

    In this episode of Right There With You, Cass and Ciarra tackle the uncomfortable truth: the male gaze is not ministry. From pulpits to platforms, patriarchal theology has long defined what holiness looks like—especially for women and queer folks. Together, they explore how deconstruction, feminism, and faith intersect when the church’s obsession with purity, power, and performance collides with real people’s lives. The conversation dives deep into spiritual grooming, gendered accountability, sexual repression, and performative forgiveness, asking: what happens when control is mistaken for care? Cass and Ciarra illuminate the path toward sacred agency, reminding listeners that embodiment, truth-telling, and community care are not rebellion—they’re revival. 🌿 Find Cass & Ciarra Online ✨ Instagram: @RightThereWithYouPod ✨ Patreon: patreon.com/thecommunitygarden ✨ Cass: iamcasscooper.com | TikTok @just_cass2.0 ✨ Ciarra: ciarajonesconsulting.com | TikTok @thegardeningtheologian

    43 min

  4. 11/11/2025

    The Price of Peace: What Divorce Taught Me About Boundaries, Burnout and Bank Accounts

    Divorce doesn’t just cost money—it costs peace, time, and sometimes, your sense of self. In this solo episode, Cass shares how she spent three years and $60,000 leaving her marriage—and why she would pay it again. Through data, lived experience, and quiet truth-telling, she unpacks what divorce taught her about boundaries, burnout, and the real price of peace. ✨ Sacred Descent Prompt: Have you ever had to pay for your peace—in love, work, or life? 🌿 Find Cass & Ciarra Online ✨ Instagram: @RightThereWithYouPod ✨ Patreon: patreon.com/thecommunitygarden ✨ Cass: iamcasscooper.com | TikTok @just_cass2.0 ✨ Ciarra: ciarajonesconsulting.com | TikTok @thegardeningtheologian

    12 min

  5. 11/04/2025

    What the SNAP: Food Security, Policy Violence, and White Christian Nationalism

    In this punchy, needed conversation, Cass and Ciarra name what’s happening to families when SNAP benefits are paused or cut: systemic policy violence. We reframe how we talk about “violence” in the context of food access, connect the dots between shutdown economics and hungry kids, and call out the gap between faith-in-words and care-in-action. We also offer practical ways to show up right now—mutual aid, local giving, and community care—while challenging the narratives that blame the most vulnerable. If you care about food security, social justice, and policy reform, this episode is your fire starter and field guide. ✊🏽 Resources & ActionsMutual Aid: Support a local mutual aid fridge, pantry, or school weekend-meal program.Food Banks: Donate time or funds to your nearest food bank.Policy: Call state reps to support SNAP extensions and emergency allotments.Community Check-In: Host a potluck or send a private “Do you need groceries this week?” message to your circle.Consider Donating to:Fort Worth: Funkytown Fridge at Westside Presbyterian Church: https://www.westsidepc.org/. Oakland: Oak Life Churcy: https://www.oaklifechurch.com/ 🌿 Find Cass & Ciarra Online ✨ Instagram: @RightThereWithYouPod ✨ Patreon: patreon.com/thecommunitygarden ✨ Cass: iamcasscooper.com | TikTok @just_cass2.0 ✨ Ciarra: ciarajonesconsulting.com | TikTok @thegardeningtheologian

    40 min

  6. 10/29/2025

    Your Partner is Your Biggest Career Decision

    Weddings, work, and the “soft life.” Cass and Ciarra unpack why your partner may be the most consequential career decision you’ll ever make—and how to choose love that amplifies, not extracts. They dig into emotional labor in cis-hetero dynamics, what’s different in many queer partnerships, and the realities of going from solo to building a business with your person. Then they redefine success beyond hustle, talk nervous-system-friendly ambition, and share “sacred descent” practices for finding joy along the way. ✨ Highlights • Partnership that accelerates (or stalls) your career • Emotional extraction vs. equitable love • Soft life energy without abandoning purpose • Solopreneurship, layoffs, and scaling together • Sacred descent: joy pockets, community, and self-worth beyond metrics 📚 Referenced bell hooks — All About Love Eve Rodsky — Fair Play Anne Helen Petersen — Can’t Even Pixar — Soul 🌿 Find Cass & Ciarra Online ✨ Instagram: @RightThereWithYouPod ✨ Patreon: patreon.com/thecommunitygarden ✨ Cass: iamcasscooper.com | TikTok @just_cass2.0 ✨ Ciarra: ciarajonesconsulting.com | TikTok @thegardeningtheologian

    29 min

  7. 10/21/2025

    HR is Not Your Friend?: Debunking Workplace Myths About Safety, Trust, and Power

    Cass and Ciarra sit down with an HR professional to unpack what HR really does — and what it doesn’t. They explore how to navigate toxic culture, when to go to HR, and how to advocate for yourself without losing your peace. This episode digs into the myths of HR, the reality of workplace power, and the importance of humanizing leadership. From FMLA and ADA to conflict resolution and emotional boundaries, this is a grounded, eye-opening guide to protecting your well-being at work. Sacred Descent Prompt: How do you stay human in systems that forget we’re people first? 🌿 Find Cass & Ciarra Online ✨ Instagram:@RightThereWithYouPod ✨ Patreon:patreon.com/thecommunitygarden ✨ Cass: iamcasscooper.com | TikTok@just_cass2.0 ✨ Ciarra: ciarajonesconsulting.com | TikTok@thegardeningtheologian

    53 min

  8. 10/14/2025

    Empathy Culture: Auntie Audre vs. Auntie Brené

    Welcome to Episode Two. Cass and Ciarra unpack the tension between Brené Brown’s vulnerability and Audre Lorde’s survival. They explore how empathy culture so often misses the mark for Black women and what real well-being at work looks like when safety isn’t guaranteed. 🌿 Find Cass & Ciarra Online ✨ Instagram: @RightThereWithYouPod ✨ Patreon: patreon.com/thecommunitygarden ✨ Cass: iamcasscooper.com | TikTok @just_cass2.0 ✨ Ciarra: ciarajonesconsulting.com | TikTok @thegardeningtheologian

    35 min
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Right There With You is a leadership podcast for those of us navigating the intersections of work, life, and pressure in real time. Cass Cooper, The Chaos Whisperer™, breaks down what’s actually happening beneath burnout, misalignment, and leadership fatigue. Giving name, language, and permission to move differently. Each episode focuses on real tensions through expert conversations and real-world insight. We don’t just tell stories—we diagnose what’s not working and reframe how to lead through it. Here we know that: Soft skills are not soft. They are infrastructure.Burnout is a design flaw, not a character one.Clarity is how we stop surviving chaos and start leading through it. Join the Community:✨ Patreon: patreon.com/chaostoclarity ✨ And Follow Cass: www.TikTok.com/just_cass2.0

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  • Creator
    Cass Cooper | The Chaos Whisperer
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  • Episodes
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