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Karen is a psychotherapist turned leadership consultant with a Masters of Divinity from Princeton Theological Seminary and a Masters in Social Work from Rutgers University. Blending psychology and spirituality with leadership strategy, she transforms the lives of countless Fortune 1000 leaders at work and at home. Her book, “The Connected Leader," puts forward connection as the antidote to the human being crisis within modern leadership.

Topics of conversation include: overcoming common roadblocks to connection, having honest conversations (with yourself), drawing from painful personal experiences to become a more empathetic person, and ending professional relationships on good terms.

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0:00 Intro

2:10 The resilience of the Aspen trees in Utah

4:05 Who is Paul Snyder?

5:28 What we get wrong about the leadership crisis

8:44 What makes someone a leader?

9:52 Does the natural-born leader exist?

13:20 “We all have an experience that has hurt us”

17:01 Connection starts with self-connection

19:55 How can we be more honest with ourselves?

23:15 Questions that you can ask to build connection

25:35 How to part ways on good terms 

29:30 How can companies get to know their remote employees?

33:38 Transforming your culture begins with you

37:36 Why are boundaries so important to maintaining empathy?

44:23 Accepting that life is messy

46:21 Facing resistance to change

49:27 Many of the best leaders are down-to-earth people

53:35 “One Final Question”

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Book Recommendation!
“The Connected Leader: 7 Strategies to Empower Your True Self and Inspire Others"

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Veronica Valli has been a leader and pioneer in the field of alcohol recovery for almost two decades. She is 20 years sober and has 17 years of experience as a recovery coach and psychotherapist. She is co-host of the Soberful podcast and author of the forthcoming book, “Soberful: Uncover A Sustainable, Fulfilling Life Free of Alcohol”. 
We explore the root causes of alcohol and substance abuse, the normalization of dysfunctional drinking, the impact that going sober has on relationships, and the “edge” that emerges through sober living. 
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0:00 Intro 
1:39 Gen X, the generation of benign neglect  
4:07 Veronica got sober at 27 
6:07 Veronica’s bad trip with hallucinogens
7:33 We’ve normalized abnormal drinking
9:19 What are the two constants to helping people recover?
12:51 Challenging misconceptions of sobriety
14:41 What is the sandwich test?
15:36 How does alcohol abuse limit our bandwidth? 
17:08 The impact of quitting alcohol on relationships
22:39 The “Mommy Needs Wine” culture 
28:29 How do marketers and media deceive us about alcohol?
31:53 Is the bar scene actually that fun?
36:05 What happens when alcohol becomes the “main event” in life?
37:05 What to focus on while adapting to sobriety
42:20 Why are boundaries so important?
44:37 How big problems can stem from resentments
46:14 Unlocking vulnerability
 
48:36 The necessity of attachment and authenticity in childhood
52:36 Tapping back into our imagination
53:50 Outside fixes to an inside problem
54:47 “One Final Question”

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“Soberful: Uncover A Sustainable, Fulfilling Life Free of Alcohol”

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In this week’s episode, we talk about some of our favorite episodes from the past year and revisit a few ideas that had a profound impact on the way we see the world.

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0:38 Being a vehicle for others’ ideas

3:31 Thank you to all our supporters

6:28 We all are able to give therapy to each other

10:08 How labels change over time

14:06 Embracing the spectrum of the human personality

16:46 Thinking critically about the mindfulness movement

21:28 We can all can relate over the experience of dreaming

27:27 The dark side of fiction

31:08 Avoiding the midlife crisis

33:13 Climate change and the effect on the Colorado river

36:15 The true value of podcasting

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Ron Purser is the Lam-Larsen Distinguished Research Professor (2021-2023) in the Lam Family College of Business at San Francisco State University. His essays and cultural criticism have appeared in the Huffington Post, The Guardian, Salon, Alternet, Tikkun, Pando Daily, Refinery 29, Tricycle and many more. He is the author of eight books, including “McMindfulness: How Mindfulness Became the New Capitalist Spirituality”.

We explore the genesis of the mindfulness movement in the West, it’s commodification by spiritual entrepreneurs, and how it’s become a tool to pacify employees rather than awaken them to their own human needs.

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0:00 Intro

2:27 The central premise of “McMindfulness”

4:04 “McMindfulness” is not simply a critique of mindfulness

5:39 Ron’s experience as a Buddhist practitioner 

7:00 The rise of mindfulness as a commodity in the West

9:32 The hype and exaggerated claims of the mindfulness movement

10:44 The “scientization” of mindfulness

14:22 When the spiritual entrepreneurs took hold of mindfulness

17:12 Mindfulness in the corporate workplace

22:44 Amazon’s working wellness program, “AmaZen”

24:45 Is there a better way to improve employee wellness?

32:22 The effect of mindfulness on service work and “emotional labor”

34:08 Is stress a result of individual problems or structural problems?

37:15 What are the second order effects of our culture of posturing?

40:46 Ron’s story of attending a corporate mindfulness workshop

43:41 What are the emotional holes we are trying to fill with mindfulness?

47:54 What is a deepity?

50:29 What is iatrogenesis?

52:53 Is Ron optimistic about the future?

58:16 Mindfulness is disproportionately practiced and promoted by elites

1:02:47 Mindfulness and the military

1:07:27 “One Final Question”

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Book Recommendation!
“McMindfulness: How Mindfulness Became the New Capitalist Spirituality”

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Dr. L is a licensed clinical psychologist, executive consultant, wife, mother of two boys, and owner and founder of LIGHFBOX, an app that helps users develop self-mastery. 
 As Chief Mind Doc at Spartan Race she works closely with the company’s CEO and Founder, Joe De Sena. Together they co-authored the recent release, “10 Rules for Resilience: Mental Toughness for Families”.
 We talk about why both parents and children are struggling in this current moment, how parents can set a healthier example for their kids, and offer specific ways to raise grittier and more responsible sons and daughters. 
 Dr. L helps us bring it home in this insightful and fun episode that any expecting parent, new parent, or struggling parent will find empowering. 
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0:00 Intro
1:01 What propelled Dr. L’s desire to explore?
3:06 What is the difference between calculus and working with people?
6:36 Joe De Sena and the purpose of writing “10 Rules for Resilience: Mental Toughness for Families" 
9:05 Where could we be more critical about parenting? 
10:14 Why are kids struggling?
11:05 What should parents be relentless about?
13:07 Why are parents feeling more helpless?
14:31 What gives kids power that makes parents feel insecure and inferior?
18:46 Consider this alternative priority to screen time
20:33 Avoid blaming schools and the government for bad parenting 
21:47 What environment do children truly thrive in? 
22:44 How to breed discipline and responsibility in children 
25:56 A chore guide for kids aged between 2-12 years old 
27:13 The job of a parent 
28:26 What glimmers should parents try to notice while their child moans and groans?
30:35 What does it mean to be an “active therapist”?
32:02 Changing your internal narrative through consistent action 
34:31 How to have a conversation with your child about them having mixed feelings 
37:27 What’s the impact of putting your child’s C- grade on the refrigerator?
38:15 What to do when your kid quickly loses interest in something they just started
41:12 The most important thing Kobe Bryant’s dad ever told him 
42:15 What running an ultramarathon taught Dr. L and her family
45:35 How to talk about failure with your kid
47:39 A revolutionary new app called LIGHFBOX 
53:07 8 ways to develop gritty kids
53:46 What do you believe you were put on this planet to do?
54:35 “One Final Question”

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Book Recommendation!
10 Rules for Resilience: Mental Toughness for Families

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Bill Small has helped hundreds of clients achieve new levels of success and fulfillment over the last 15 years in his role as a business and personal coach. He is also a musician, creator of the Awareness Advantage Workshop, and co-host of a new podcast, “The Subtle Art of Not Yelling.”

In this wide-ranging conversation we discuss the art of coaching, the importance of uniting mindfulness with action, our culture’s strained relationship with aging, and personal accountability as an antidote to groupthink. 

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0:00 Intro
0:39 The many roles of Bill Small
1:38 The difference between mentoring, teaching, and coaching
3:33 How long does it take a coach to get to know their client?
6:07 What are some of the questions Bill asks his clients?
9:11 Seeking objective advice as a business owner
10:39 How “The Secret” influenced Bill’s coaching
14:05 Uniting mindfulness with action 
19:00 The importance of staying present with clients
21:13 The need for more compassion in our interactions
25:18 Our culture’s “weird” relationship with aging
28:22 Building deeper, more authentic connections with customers, users, and clients
31:58 The art of storytelling through songwriting
35:16 Taste and preference is subjective
37:47 Not everyone is a fit for entrepreneurship 
40:32 Building a skill set before building a client base
42:45 The future of groupthink
46:45 Pinning our anger on larger narratives
49:31 What’s a book you reopened recently?
52:27 “One Final Question"
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Bill’s music

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Book Recommendation!
The Domain of Being: Ontology by Celestine Bittle

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