Rising Tides

Ishana Wokhlu

"Rising Tides" delves into the intersection of environmental issues and social justice. In this podcast, I speak with activists, scientists, policymakers, and community leaders at the forefront of the movement for a fair and sustainable world. From the impacts of climate change on marginalized communities to innovative solutions and policy changes, this podcast sheds light on the struggles and triumphs in the quest for environmental justice.

  1. 11/11/2025

    Episode 15: Where Do We Go From Here? - A Conversation with Dr. Jalonne White-Newsome

    In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Jalonne White-Newsome for a powerful reflection on her journey into environmental justice and the experiences that shaped her work at the highest levels of federal policy. She walks us through the four cornerstone initiatives she helped lead at the White House: Justice40, the Environmental Justice Scorecard, the Climate and Economic Justice Screening Tool, and the Environmental Justice Executive Order, and how her diverse background lets her see environmental justice from many angles, combining both science and community insight. As we discuss the loss of federal support under the new administration, Dr. White-Newsome offers practical advice: stay connected, stay engaged, and keep pushing for justice. And for young people who might be feeling discouraged, she leaves a hopeful message about focusing on what it takes to build the world we want for the future. Dr. Jalonne White-Newsome is an Associate Professor in the Environmental Justice Specialization at the University of Michigan’s School for Environment and Sustainability. She began her career as a chemical engineer and has worked across multiple sectors including grassroots organizing, philanthropy, state government, and academia. She founded Empowering a Green Environment and Economy, LLC to advance public health, racial equity, and environmental justice. From 2022 to 2025, she served as the first Federal Chief Environmental Justice Officer, leading the White House Office of Environmental Justice and helping drive the Biden-Harris Administration’s equity and climate initiatives. Learn more about Dr. White-Newsome here.

    18 min
  2. 10/03/2025

    Episode 14: Community-Led Science for Health and Justice with Dr. Sacoby Wilson

    In this episode, I speak with Dr. Sacoby Wilson, a nationally recognized environmental health scientist and scholar whose work centers on environmental justice, health equity, and community-engaged science. We explore the many ways in which environmental injustice affects people’s health and discuss the reality of sacrifice zones, where residents face disproportionate environmental burdens and limited political power, leaving them to shoulder higher health risks. He shares the vision behind the Center for Engagement, Environmental Justice and Health program (CEEJH INC), a community-driven initiative grounded in INpowerment and liberation science. The program equips communities with the tools and data they need to understand environmental and health challenges in their neighborhoods and take meaningful action. By putting power in the hands of residents rather than institutions, CEEJH INC enables communities to lead their own solutions. Dr. Wilson serves as a Professor in the Department of Global, Environmental, and Occupational Health and in the Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at the University of Maryland. He also directs The Health, Environmental, and Economic Justice Lab, which provides technical assistance to communities confronting environmental injustice and related health disparities. His contributions have earned numerous honors, including the recent Heinz Award for his leadership at the intersection of research, public health, and grassroots organizing. Learn more about Dr. Wilson here.

    44 min
  3. 08/09/2025

    Episode 13: Rethinking Climate Action and Lithium Mining with Dr. Javiera Barandiarán

    In this episode, I talk with Dr. Javiera Barandiarán about how dominant approaches to climate change often ignore justice, deepen existing inequalities, and rely on solutions that shift environmental harm rather than eliminate it. We discuss electric vehicles and lithium extraction, where Dr. Barandiarán challenges the idea that EVs are inherently sustainable. Drawing from her upcoming book Living Minerals, she argues that the global push for decarbonization is fueling endless extraction, driven by trade and consumption rather than ecological limits. A truly sustainable future, she suggests, would require slowing production and rethinking climate solutions from a justice perspective. Our conversation also explores the Rights of Nature framework and how it transforms environmental governance by centering ecosystems as living systems, not resources.  Dr. Javiera Barandiarán is Associate Professor of Global Studies at UC Santa Barbara and Director of the Center for Restorative Environmental Work. Her research focuses on the intersection of science, the environment, and development in Latin America. She is the author of several works on environmental politics, and her forthcoming book, Living Minerals: Nature, Trade, and Power in the Race for Lithium, will be published in January 2026. Dr. Barandiarán is a recipient of the Berlin Prize from the American Academy in Berlin and a fellowship from the Rockefeller Foundation’s Bellagio Center for her work on lithium mining. Learn more about Dr. Barandiarán here.

    36 min
  4. 07/16/2025

    Episode 12: The Green Divide with Professor Lindi von Mutius

    In this episode, I sit down with educator and environmental justice leader Lindi von Mutius to discuss why access to green space is a matter of justice. Professor von Mutius explains how the denial of environmental goods has long shaped who gets to experience nature’s benefits and who does not, and how the physical and mental benefits of green space remain unevenly distributed across communities. We talk about the long history of exclusion, from early prohibitions on Indigenous gathering practices and national park bans to discriminatory zoning and land-use laws. We then turn to the modern landscape, where disinvestment, distance, and broken infrastructure create barriers to access. Professor von Mutius shares insights from her work with the Trust for Public Land, including efforts like the Green Schoolyards campaign, and highlights promising policies such as the national program that provides free national park access for every fourth grader. She also offers practical guidance for organizations to meet communities where they are, listen deeply, and resist top-down planning. Her ultimate goal is clear: a future where everyone lives within a ten-minute walking distance to nature. She envisions a world where federal policy prioritizes access, organizations that have traditionally excluded low-income communities expand opportunities, and everyone does a little bit to bring nature closer for all. Lindi von Mutius is an environmental justice strategist, attorney, and educator. She is the Class of 1946 Distinguished Visiting Professor of Environmental Studies at Williams College and the Inaugural Director of the Salata Institute Climate Action Accelerator at Harvard University, where she works with faculty to ensure their research and climate solutions translate into action for external stakeholders and practitioners. Prior to these roles, she held senior leadership positions at the Trust for Public Land, the Sierra Club, and the Environmental Defense Fund. Before her work in the nonprofit sector, she practiced environmental, corporate, and bankruptcy law, and collaborated with the German Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Climate Action on expanding renewable energy tax credits in the United States. Learn more about Lindi von Mutius here.

    37 min
  5. 06/13/2025

    Episode 11: Mobility and Justice - Reimagining Transportation with Equitable Cities

    In this episode, I sit down with Isa Gaillard and Valeria Menendez from Equitable Cities, an organization with planners, researchers, and advocates transforming the way people move through their communities. Rooted in justice and lived experience, Equitable Cities addresses the inequities that have shaped America’s transportation systems, from highways that divide neighborhoods to underfunded public transit. We explore why transportation is a justice issue, how historic policies and funding decisions continue to restrict mobility for communities of color, and what it means to design streets that allow everyone to move safely and freely. Isa and Valeria also share how Equitable Cities bridges the gap between community members and policymakers, and the transformative projects that are redefining access and opportunity across the country. Check out the groundbreaking work of Equitable Cities at www.equitablecities.com and read more about Isa and Valeria below. Isa Gaillard is a Senior Planner at Equitable Cities. He has experience in environmental justice, sustainable transportation, and capacity building. As an undergraduate student, Isa received a Martin Luther King Jr. Spirit Award for his efforts engaging diverse communities to promote cross-cultural collaboration. During his graduate studies, he developed a framework for how cities can integrate environmental justice into their planning processes. Prior to joining Equitable Cities, Isa developed and led the Towards Equitable Electric Mobility (TEEM) Community of Practice and supported the Greenlining Institute’s capacity building projects. Valeria Menendez is a Senior Associate at Equitable Cities. She has an impressive interdisciplinary background, holding a Master’s degree in Environmental Policy and Planning. She has a comprehensive understanding of environmental and social dynamics, as well as interdisciplinary collaboration. Valeria is currently working on the Virginia Walkability Institute in collaboration with the Virginia Department of Health, and with various communities around the country through the US Department of Transportation’s Thriving Communities Program.

    57 min

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"Rising Tides" delves into the intersection of environmental issues and social justice. In this podcast, I speak with activists, scientists, policymakers, and community leaders at the forefront of the movement for a fair and sustainable world. From the impacts of climate change on marginalized communities to innovative solutions and policy changes, this podcast sheds light on the struggles and triumphs in the quest for environmental justice.