Risk, Return and Responsibility

Asset Owner Network

Risk, Return and Responsibility – the monthly podcast from Asset Owner Network - aims to provide institutional asset owners with news and views shaping both the sustainable investment landscape and our wider economic, environmental and social systems. In each episode, Chris Hall, Editorial Director, will be joined by co-hosts to discuss the biggest recent stories, and to round up some you might have missed. We will also be conducting deeper interviews with influential asset owners and others on the practical challenges of balancing risk, return and responsibility. To wrap up each episode, we will look back at some of the bigger stories covered recently by Sustainable Investor, as well as looking forward to the most significant upcoming developments, again with expert input from our co-hosts.

Episodes

  1. Risk, Return and Responsibility – Episode 9: Reaching Common Ground on Natural Capital

    MAR 30

    Risk, Return and Responsibility – Episode 9: Reaching Common Ground on Natural Capital

    In this episode, Rebalance Earth’s Rob Gardner explains why institutional investors must view nature as "living infrastructure" to mitigate systemic climate risks and secure long-term, performance-linked returns. Risk, Return and Responsibility — the monthly podcast from Sustainable Investor — provides institutional asset owners with the news and views shaping the sustainable investment landscape and our wider economic and social systems. Recorded in the first week of March 2026, this episode features former UK pensions minister Guy Opperman and Sustainable Investor Editorial Director Chris Hall in conversation with Rob Gardner, CEO and Co-founder of Rebalance Earth. Gardner discusses his own transition from traditional investment consulting to becoming a "natural capital champion”, arguing that restoring nature is a matter of economic self-interest. The discussion delves into how nature-based solutions can outperform engineered alternatives in managing physical climate risks, while also delivering returns to institutional portfolios. With reference to several of Rebalance Earth’s own projects, it outlines how capital flows for nature protection and restoration can be unlocked through aligning shared commercial interests, but does not shy away from the complexity of working with multiple parties, and the need for greater public-private understanding – and action - common challenges. Guests Rob Gardner: CEO and Co-Founder of Rebalance Earth Guy Opperman: Former UK Pensions Minister and host Chris Hall: Editorial Director of Sustainable Investor Interview Highlights Nature as Living Infrastructure: Gardner argues that nature restoration must be viewed through the lens of economic self-interest and "team Earth's" resilience rather than mere philanthropy or altruism. By framing nature as "living infrastructure", it becomes clear who benefits from its maintenance, crystalising payment flows and ultimately investment returns. Biological assets, such as oyster reefs, can be viewed as performing infrastructure that provides high-value services, including water purification, marine biodiversity restoration, and cost-effective coastal defences. Performance-linked Returns: One promising investment model being pioneered by Rebalance Earth focuses on ‘payments for ecosystem services’, where corporate off-takers like Nestlé Purina pay for specific outcomes such as cleaner water and marine biodiversity restoration. This creates a financial return that flows back to pension funds, such as the West Yorkshire Pension Fund, based on the reef's performance. Addressing Systemic Risk: Gardner notes that peak rainfall in the UK has increased fivefold since 2010, posing a systemic threat to property and infrastructure. He argues that asset owners should allocate 2–5% of portfolios to natural capital to enhance the resilience of the physical assets — such as homes and railways — that their members rely upon. Such investments can provide a “natural hedge” for portfolios that are at risk from the physical risks of climate change at a time when information on adaptation actions across major asset classes is scarce. The Evenlode Project – Scaling Up: The podcast highlights the latest stage of the Evenlode Landscape Recovery Project, west of Oxford. Rebalance Earth is providing catalytic capital to unlock £50 million in private investment alongside public funding to pay farmers for "landscape recovery". This project aims to create "sponge landscapes" that reduce flood risk, delivering maintenance cost savings for major infrastructure operators like Network Rail and power utility SSE. The LTAF Opportunity: Gardner suggests that the Long-Term Asset Fund (LTAF) structure is an ideal "sweetie shop" for defined contribution and local government pension scheme funds to access a balanced portfolio of sustainable forestry, regenerative agriculture, and ecosystem services. He also describes the path from the sweetie shop to a global megastore for natural capital. Embracing the Fosbury Flop The conversation concludes with the analogy of the ‘Fosbury Flop’, with Gardner suggesting that the investment industry needs a similar leap in logic to address climate change. By moving away from viewing nature as an "add-on" and instead integrating it into the core definition of infrastructure, he argues the UK can lead the world in nature restoration. With more pension assets in the UK than total GDP, the shift toward a 70% private-capital funding model for landscape recovery offers a clear path toward both national resilience and institutional alpha.

    39 min
  2. Risk, Return and Responsibility – Episode 8: The Asset Owner's Moonshot Challenge

    FEB 26

    Risk, Return and Responsibility – Episode 8: The Asset Owner's Moonshot Challenge

    Risk, Return and Responsibility—the monthly podcast from Sustainable Investor—provides institutional asset owners with the news and views shaping the sustainable investment landscape and our wider economic and social systems. In this episode, former UK pensions minister Guy Opperman and Sustainable Investor Editorial Director Chris Hall talk to Marisa Hall, Head of the Thinking Ahead Institute (TAI), about the role of asset owners in the evolving landscape of global capital. As a former actuary and now leader of a global not-for-profit investment network, she provides a unique window into how the world’s most influential asset owners are adapting to a "ruptured" global order. From the findings of the TAI’s latest Asset Owner 100 report to the "Moonshot Challenge" of systemic investing, this conversation delves into why traditional investment "buckets" are being broken down in favour of a more dynamic, holistic approach. Guests   ● Marisa Hall: Head of the Thinking Ahead Institute ● Guy Opperman: Former UK Pensions Minister and host ● Chris Hall: Editor-in-Chief of Sustainable Investor Interview highlights The Power and Concentration of Global Capital: The TAI’s Asset Owner 100 report highlights that the top 100 asset owners control roughly US$30 trillion in capital, with the top 20 "megas" alone commanding 56% of those assets. These organisations are viewed as the "movers and shakers" of the industry, wielding the most influential capital on the planet to shape the future of the global economy. The Shift to a Total Portfolio Approach (TPA): Leading asset owners are moving away from traditional strategic asset allocation and rigid asset class "buckets" toward a TPA model where every dollar must compete for capital. This approach serves as a gateway to better sustainability practices by allowing investors to be more dynamic and use real-time information to meet their long-term goals. Navigating the Net Zero Plateau through 3D Investing: While 52% of the top 100 asset owners have set net zero targets, new commitments have plateaued. But the challenges to universal owners from interconnected and systemic risks are prompting a shift toward "systems-level investing". This includes a 3D Investing framework that helps asset owners look beyond risk and return to consider the real-world impact their investments have on the systems they rely upon for future returns. The Impact of Consolidation and Strategic Partnerships: Consolidation in markets like Australia and the UK is enabling asset owners to build greater internal capability and develop "smart partnerships" with asset managers, based on a shared view of the role of investment capital in driving sustainable growth. This scale allows large funds to be patient, selective, and act as a "critical friend" to their asset managers, ensuring deep alignment with the best long-term interests of their members. Geopolitics and AI as Systemic Determinants: Geopolitics has shifted from being a mere driver of returns to a determinant of how the entire investment system functions. Simultaneously, asset owners are building "intelligence ecosystems" to embed AI into their processes, aiming to generate "organisational alpha" by combining technology with human culture and decision-making. Embracing the Moonshot The conversation concludes with a forward-looking assessment of the "Moonshot Challenge"—the idea that investment organisations must understand and address interconnected and systemic risks at source to thrive in an increasingly complex world. Despite a "plateauing" in the announcement of explicit commitments, there is a growing sense of optimism that major asset owners are becoming smarter, more creative, and more resilient in how they integrate sustainability into their investment decisions. By focusing on stewardship, collaboration, and a reset of how we define risk, the leaders of today’s US$30 trillion capital pool are moving into a position to not just navigate the future, but to actively shape it for the generations to come.

    41 min
  3. Risk, Return and Responsibility – Episode 7: Beyond Cost—The New Value Frontier for UK Pensions

    FEB 5

    Risk, Return and Responsibility – Episode 7: Beyond Cost—The New Value Frontier for UK Pensions

    Risk, Return and Responsibility—the monthly podcast from Sustainable Investor—provides institutional asset owners with the news and views shaping the sustainable investment landscape and our wider economic and social systems. In this latest episode, former UK Pensions Minister Guy Opperman and Sustainable Investor Editorial Director Chris Hall are joined by Mike Ambery, Retirement Savings Director at Standard Life, part of the Phoenix Group. Together, they explore the seismic shifts facing the UK retirement market as it transitions from a legacy of cost-containment toward a future defined by value, scale, and sustainable outcomes. The discussion unpicks the upcoming Value for Money (VfM) framework and the Pension Schemes Bill, examining how performance metrics will reshape asset allocation and drive industry consolidation. From the ‘herding’ risks seen in Australia to the impact of the Mansion House Compact and shifting geopolitical attitudes toward ESG, the panel identifies the challenges of delivering ‘triple wins’ for government, consumers, and the planet. Guests: ● Mike Ambery: Retirement Savings Director at Standard Life (Phoenix Group) and a prominent pensions market commentator. ● Guy Opperman: Former UK Pensions Minister and host. ● Chris Hall: Editor-in-Chief of Sustainable Investor. Interview Highlights: ● Will the Value for Money (VfM) framework truly improve member outcomes? Ambery argues the core purpose of VfM is to improve individual outcomes by looking beyond just investment performance to include service quality. However, the industry must pivot from a cost-based system established in 2012 to one that prizes long-term value and sustainable investment strategies. ● Does the VfM framework conflict with sustainable investment goals? The panel expresses concern that a narrow focus on performance metrics could hinder sustainable investing if not properly implemented. Chris Hall notes that ‘forward-looking’ metrics must be independently assessed and paired with clearer guidance on fiduciary duty regarding systemic risks to ensure sustainability isn't sidelined by short-term data. To reach a ‘triple win’ by 2030, the panel suggests that VfM must be part of a broader package including industrial policy and stewardship. ● Does the Australian model risk creating a ‘herding’ mentality? While consolidation is necessary for scale, Opperman warns that benchmark-driven performance tests can lead to "groupthink" as providers scramble to avoid being in the bottom percentile. Ambery agrees that while "sunlight is the best disinfectant", transparency must be paired with measures that reward diverse, productive asset allocation rather than mere imitation. ● Why is scale critical for the future of sustainable investment? To effectively deploy capital into private markets and sustainable solutions, Ambery suggests firms need significant scale—pointing to Phoenix Group’s £300 billion capacity as an example of what is required to support dedicated research and impact teams. He identifies A$25 billion as a potential minimum threshold for organisations to operate effectively. ● How will global policy trends, including the "Trump impact" affect the City? Despite political rhetoric reclassifying ESG in the US, Ambery believes the UK’s commitment to these factors remains pivotal. Chris Hall notes that as the US takes a differing view, there is an opportunity for a "middle way" led by the UK, EU, and Canada to drive a secure energy transition. Thanks for joining us: If you like what you hear, you can subscribe to Sustainable Investor and this podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your preferred platform.

    32 min
  4. The Five Issues Shaping Sustainable Investment in 2026

    12/18/2025

    The Five Issues Shaping Sustainable Investment in 2026

    In 2025’s final episode of Risk, Return and Responsibility, the monthly podcast from Sustainable Investor, former UK Pensions Minister Guy Opperman and Editorial Director Chris Hall are joined for an end-of-year reckoning by Dr Anthony Kirby, ex-Head of Regulation and Risk for Asset Management and Capital Markets in Europe at EY.    Together, they review 2025’s big themes and give their views on the questions that will determine sustainable investment returns and impacts 2026:    Is the ESG backlash gathering speed or petering out? With Donald Trump returning to the White House, new hurdles hampered investor scrutiny, while the Inflation Reduction Act was dismantled alongside many a diversity, equity and inclusion initiative. Meanwhile Europe took a scythe to sustainable investment regulation, as finance sector net zero commitments withered. Asset owners dug in, further integrating sustainability into their investment processes and doubling down on oversight of material financial risks - but do they need to do a better job of explaining and delivering outcomes?    Is the divide between asset owners and managers bigger than the Atlantic? Already under huge political and legal pressure, US asset managers faced even greater difficulties in 2025 - with new rules from the Securities and Exchange Commission making it harder to engage with portfolio companies, just as European asset owners underlined their commitment to climate stewardship. The fallout has been measured in lost mandates, but could litigation and retrenchment be on their way in 2026? Effective stewardship of assets could depend on a closing of gaps in both investment horizons and business cultures.    Can private markets deliver both returns and impact at an attractive cost? Institutional investors are increasingly turning to alternative assets to achieve tangible sustainable outcomes as well as superior returns. In markets such as the UK, governments also expect asset owners to achieve the scale to leverage these channels to drive growth too. In response, managers must deliver clear evidence that sustainable business models are driving value creation at every stage of the investment process. Are their reporting cycles, stewardship capabilities, cost and fund structures up to the job?    Will supply meet demand for nature-positive investment opportunities? Nature became a critical stewardship priority for asset owners in 2025 against a backdrop of mixed policy outcomes across plastic pollution, deforestation, and ocean protection. COP30 helped to put nature-related investments on the agenda as asset owners looked beyond measuring and managing risk to seeking out opportunities for returns. Will we see dedicated nature funds or rather nature being fully embedded into a wider range of investment decisions, with impact investment solutions remaining niche for now?   Can the upsides of the AI boom survive the downsides of a bust? Hopes for transformative productivity gains from AI innovation have allowed markets to face down all headwinds in 2025. Even so, investors wonder when returns will justify capex and whether ESG risks will be addressed. Despite the rising valuations, careful analysis is needed to invest in AI, its infrastructure and supply chain - and to identify the sectors using the technology to deliver higher returns. 2026 could also see more asset owners and managers deploying AI to deliver new insights into sustainability-related risks and opportunities.

    34 min
  5. Will Brussels and Belém boost the nature-positive, net zero transition

    11/27/2025

    Will Brussels and Belém boost the nature-positive, net zero transition

    In this episode, we explore the likely impacts on asset owners’ climate and nature exposures of reforms to the Sustainable Finance Disclosure Regulation and developments at COP30; also looking forward to the next steps for natural capital accounting and universal ownership.   Risk, Return and Responsibility – the monthly podcast from Sustainable Investor - aims to provide institutional asset owners with news and views shaping both the sustainable investment landscape and our wider economic, environmental and social systems. In each episode, Chris Hall, Editorial Director of Sustainable Investor, will be joined by co-hosts to discuss the biggest recent stories, and to round up some you might have missed. We will also be conducting deeper interviews with influential asset owners and others on the practical challenges of balancing risk, return and responsibility. To wrap up each episode, we will look back at some of the bigger stories covered recently by Sustainable Investor, also looking forward to the most significant upcoming developments, again with expert input from our co-hosts.    Co-hosts: Guy Opperman, the UK’s longest-serving Pensions Minister & Chair of Sustainable Investor's editorial board; and Hortense Bioy, Head of Sustainable Investing Research, Morningstar Sustainalytics.    News round-up: Following the release of ‘SFDR 2.0’, Hortense estimates the assets likely to be captured by the new transition fund category and forecasts a potential boost to engagement efforts, while Guy argues that simplification in Brussels should be heeded in Belém and beyond to secure buy-in for essential climate policy shifts. Signs of a greater integration of nature and climate in policy and investment decisions at COP30 are dissected (and broadly welcomed), while the repositioning of the Net Zero Asset Managers initiative - now prioritising transparency, scenario analysis, and engagement frameworks over rigid commitments - are seen as posing challenges for asset owners (Hortense) while reducing legal risk (Guy).    The Three Rs interview: Mark Gough, CEO of the Capitals Coalition, explains why asset owners should consider natural capital a core determinant of long-term value and shares his experiences and takeaways from COP30, outlining why he expects natural capital to be a bigger part of the policy conversation in future. He also highlights why he sees accounting standards as a critical tool for increasing the visibility of nature on the balance sheet.    Review / Preview: Finally Guy and Hortense return to dig a little deeper into some recent reports from leading asset owners on the challenges and opportunities of universal ownership, and the pros and cons of a system-level approach to stewardship. Do asset owners have the resources and data to support their ambitions? What kinds of outcomes and interventions will justify this shift of emphasis away from company-focused engagement?    Thanks for joining us: If you like what you hear, you can also subscribe to Sustainable Investor, subscribe to this podcast and find further information in the show notes, where you can also find our contact details.  We'd love to hear your ideas as we plan future episodes.    Links to news items discussed:    Greenwashing Risks Remain Under Europe’s SFDR 2.0 https://sustainableinvestor.online/live/greenwashing-risks-remain-under-europes-sfdr-2-0/ SFDR Expected to Introduce Dedicated Transition Funds https://sustainableinvestor.online/qa-will-brussels-re-boot-transform-the-transition/ SFDR Challenges Increased by Omnibus Package https://sustainableinvestor.online/live/omnibus-vote-throws-sfdr-review-into-doubt/ UN Climate Talks Fail to Secure New Fossil Fuel Promises https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75vn7yel73o COP30 has Racked up an Impressive Scorecard of Real-world Climate Actions  https://unfccc.int/news/cop30-has-racked-up-an-impressive-scorecard-of-real-world-climate-actions-that-will-also-mean COP30 Approves Belem Package https://cop30.br/en/news-about-cop30/cop30-approves-belem-package1# NZAM: Ready for its Next Chapter https://www.netzeroassetmanagers.org/nzam-ready-for-its-next-chapter/ NZAM Updates Signatory Requirements and Acknowledges “What has Always Been the Case” https://www.ropesgray.com/en/insights/viewpoints/102lrmz/nzam-updates-signatory-requirements-and-acknowledges-what-has-always-been-the-ca Net Zero Sometime: NZAM Scraps 2050 Target https://www.netzeroinvestor.net/news-and-views/net-zero-sometime-nzam-scraps-2050-target TFFF “an Arrow in the Quiver, not a Silver Bullet” https://sustainableinvestor.online/tfff-an-arrow-in-the-quiver-not-a-silver-bullet/ MDBs’ New Approach to Financing Nature https://onestopesg.com/esg-news/mdbs-new-approach-to-financing-nature-1763521846737 ISSB to Lead on Nature Reporting, Plans COP17 Release https://sustainableinvestor.online/live/issb-to-lead-on-nature-reporting-plans-cop17-release/ New Sovereign Debt Nature Assessment Model Open for Consultation https://www.financeforbiodiversity.org/publications/new-sovereign-debt-nature-assessment-model-and-a-call-for-feedback/ Reaching $120 Billion in International Adaptation Finance Is Possible https://www.wri.org/insights/tripling-adaptation-finance-goal Universal Ownership: From Theory to Practice https://sustainableinvestor.online/from-theory-to-practice/ What Does it Look Like for Asset Owners to Lead Right Now https://issuu.com/wespath/docs/system_level_sustainability_opportunity_and_risk_1 chris.hall@sustainabletimes.co.uk

    41 min
  6. Australia’s ‘Super’-charged Renewables Transition

    11/13/2025

    Australia’s ‘Super’-charged Renewables Transition

    In this ‘interview-only’ episode, we explore the role of Australia’s superannuation funds in the country’s embrace of clean energy, with Jeremy Cooper and David Bell of the Conexus Institute. Risk, Return and Responsibility – the monthly podcast from Sustainable Investor – aims to provide institutional asset owners with news and views shaping both the sustainable investment landscape and our wider economic, environmental and social systems.  In this episode, Guy Opperman, the UK’s longest-serving Pensions Minister & Chair of Sustainable Investor’s editorial board, reports from Sydney, on the barriers facing Australia’s US$2.8 trillion superannuation sector in supporting the country’s net zero transition.  In discussion with David Bell and Jeremy Cooper of the Conexus Institute, Guy finds out whether regulation and policy are giving supers the right incentives to invest sustainably, why so much capital is flowing into overseas infrastructure, and how Australia’s path to net zero could be different from other developed economies.  Guests: David Bell, Executive Director, Conexus Institute, a research organisation focused on improving Australia’s superannuation and retirement systems, and a former CIO of Mine Super. Jeremy Cooper, Chair of the Advisory Board, Conexus Institute, former deputy chair of the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC), Australia’s financial regulator and author of the government’s review of the super system. Interview highlights: What are Australian pension funds and their regulators getting right – and wrong – about sustainable investing? Regulators have issued strong guidance on managing climate risk, and mandatory disclosures start next year. Yet, with no legal mandate or firm targets, super funds face little official pressure to decarbonise portfolios despite high public expectations. Why are funds not investing locally to reduce emissions? Despite vast renewable potential, most Australian super funds still prefer overseas infrastructure, particularly in the UK. A limited pipeline of investable domestic projects and benchmark-driven performance tests deter local climate investment, sending capital offshore while Australia needs it most. Can Australia reach net zero on renewables alone – and become a clean energy exporter? According to Jeremy Cooper, abundant solar, strong wind and the world’s largest batteries mean Australia could meet its energy needs without nuclear. Major solar and hydrogen projects in the Northern Territory point to a future where Australia powers both itself and its neighbours with renewables. Will government policy help decarbonise – including through a transition taxonomy? The government’s proposed transition taxonomy and investment incentives aim to crowd in private capital, but progress is slow. Super funds still lack transition plans and consistent carbon pricing, and clear policy signals are needed to unlock large-scale green investment. What can other countries learn from Australia’s pension system? David Bell notes that Australia’s experience shows how performance tests and value-for-money rules can unintentionally discourage climate-aligned investment. The lesson for others: build forward-looking frameworks that reward long-term sustainability, not just short-term returns. Thanks for joining us: If you like what you hear, you can also subscribe to Sustainable Investor, subscribe to this podcast, where you can also find our contact details. We’d love to hear your ideas as we plan future episodes.    For more info or to sponsor contact chis.hall@sustainabletimes.co.uk

    24 min
  7. Can the Transition Stay on Track with the Omnibus Blown off Course

    10/30/2025

    Can the Transition Stay on Track with the Omnibus Blown off Course

    In this episode, we ask when will investors get the information they need to invest confidently in the net zero transition, following turmoil in Brussels and the banking sector; we also underline Sustainable Investor’s October focus on transition finance by exploring the status of corporate transition planning and the merits of making it mandatory.    Co-hosts: Guy Opperman, the UK’s longest-serving Pensions Minister & Chair of Sustainable Investor's editorial board; and Richard Gardiner, Interim Head of EU Policy at environmental charity ShareAction.    News Round-up: Following MEPs’ surprise rejection of a compromise deal on the European Commission’s Sustainability Omnibus, Richard outlines the uncertainties for corporates and knock-on delays facing asset owners and managers, including over the SFDR Review. Guy warns of trouble ahead for UK pensions reforms after minister Torsten Bell dismissed concerns over mandation at the Pensions UK annual conference. Both have global implications, as do the other key topics analysed: the demise of the Net Zero Banking Alliance, the withdrawal of US climate risk guidance for financial institutions, and failure to agree a deal on shipping emissions.    The Three Rs Interview: David Russell, Chair of the Transition Pathway Initiative, discusses the current value to sustainable investors of corporate transition plans, the information they should include to be more decision-useful, and the role of asset managers in supporting investor scrutiny of firms’ decarbonisation strategies.    Review / Preview: To wrap up this week’s discussion, Richard looks forward to COP30, expressing hope that governments will reveal climate plans that deliver for people and planet, following the call made by Allianz Board Member Günther Thallinger in his recent interview with Sustainable Investor that nationally determined contributions should serve as blueprints for economic competitiveness. And Guy comments on the UK’s net zero ambitions in light of the release of its ‘carbon budget delivery plan’ - as required by the High Court - and tensions over North Sea oil and gas revenues ahead of the Budget in late November.  Thanks for joining us: If you like what you hear, you can also subscribe to Sustainable Investor, subscribe to this podcast and find further information in the show notes, where you can also find our contact details.  We'd love to hear your ideas as we plan future episodes.    Links to news items discussed:    EU Lawmakers Reject Deal to Simplify Sustainability Rules  https://www.euractiv.com/news/eu-lawmakers-reject-deal-to-simplify-sustainability-rules-in-major-upset/ Omnibus Vote Throws SFDR Review into Doubt https://sustainableinvestor.online/live/omnibus-vote-throws-sfdr-review-into-doubt/ Socialists Cave to Centre-right Demands to Slash EU Green Rules https://www.politico.eu/article/socialists-liberals-epp-eu-green-rules/ UK Minister Brushes off Fiduciary Duty Concerns https://sustainableinvestor.online/live/uk-minister-brushes-off-fiduciary-duty-concerns/ Britain’s Biggest Pension Funds Back Regional Growth Drive https://www.gov.uk/government/news/britains-biggest-pension-funds-back-regional-growth-drive Mp Tables ‘System-Level’ Investment Duty Amendment to Pensions Bill https://www.ipe.com/news/mp-tables-system-level-investment-duty-amendment-to-pensions-bill/10133274.article Climate Alliance NZBA Disbands as Banks Vote For Guidance-Only Role https://www.thebanker.com/content/e2f79306-a596-4375-a33c-e1390cb64c17 GFANZ Transition Role in Question as NZBA Folds https://sustainableinvestor.online/live/gfanz-transition-role-in-question-as-nzba-folds/ Global Banks Stall on Climate Action Despite Net Zero Promises, Report Finds https://www.transitionpathwayinitiative.org/publications/141/show_news_article US Federal Agencies Announce Withdrawal of Principles for Climate-Related Financial Risk Management https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/bcreg20251016a.htm Landmark global shipping deal in tatters after US pressure https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vnl0yxg53o Investors Left in the Dark on Pace of Corporate Transition https://sustainableinvestor.online/investors-left-in-the-dark-on-pace-of-corporate-transition/ Transition Planning Not “An End in Itself” https://sustainableinvestor.online/transition-planning-not-an-end-in-itself/ Targets, Trade-offs and Transformation  https://sustainableinvestor.online/targets-trade-offs-and-transformation/ World’s Climate Plans Fall Drastically Short of Action Needed, Analysis Shows https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/28/worlds-climate-plans-fall-drastically-short-of-action-needed-analysis-shows Climate Plan Captures Clean Energy Benefits and Boosts Investment https://www.gov.uk/government/news/climate-plan-captures-clean-energy-benefits-and-boosts-investment UK Should Prepare for at Least 2C of Global Warming by 2050, Says CCC https://www.edie.net/uk-should-prepare-for-at-least-2c-of-global-warming-by-2050-says-ccc/ Remove Windfall Taxes on North Sea Oil, Bosses Tell Rachel Reeves https://www.cityam.com/remove-windfall-taxes-on-north-sea-oil-bosses-tell-rachel-reeves/ chris.hall@sustainabletimes.co.uk

    55 min
  8. 10/02/2025

    High Seas, Higher Stakes, and a Race to the Bottom

    In this episode, we examine the implications for asset owners of the heavy political weather for sustainable investment in New York and Washington, and look beyond to practical challenges - from Europe’s defence boom to delayed deforestation legislation to nature-related reporting. Co-hosts: Guy Opperman, the UK’s longest-serving Pensions Minister & Chair of Sustainable Investor's editorial board; and Gemma James, Head of Biodiversity and Nature at specialist consultancy Chronos Sustainability.  News Round-up: First on our agenda is the UN General Assembly, with Guy’s take on the difficulties posed by the Trump administration’s continued hostility to climate change and ESG, and Gemma’s expectations for the High Seas Treaty’s implications for investors. Chris reviews recent comments by SEC chief Paul Atkins, inviting Guy to comment on the uncertainty caused by the US Court of Appeal’s refusal to rule on the commission’s climate risk disclosure rule. Gemma explains why the Taskforce for Nature-related Disclosures has been a “game-changer” for corporates and investors, while Guy considers the risk-return conundrum posed by Europe’s upsurge in military spending.  The Three Rs Interview: Caroline Escott, Head of Investor Stewardship and Co-head of Sustainable Ownership at Railpen, explains why UK pension funds are mobilising for the Governance for Growth Investor Campaign, predicting that asset owners will increasingly allocate to jurisdictions that offer corporate access and “meaningful stewardship”.  Review / Preview: Chris, Guy and Gemma discuss the acute physical risks arising in portfolios from climate change in light of Sustainable Investor’s recent interview with Mirko Cardinale, Head of Investment Strategy at Universities Superannuation Scheme, as well as the challenges of enacting policy and regulatory change to drive the net zero transition, as outlined by Barbara Zvan, CEO of UPP Ontario. Guy explains why he’s looking forward to the Pensions UK conference in Manchester, while Gemma highlights the Global Investor Commission on Mining 2030’s forthcoming consultation on the future expectations of investors and others of the sector.  Thanks for joining us: If you like what you hear, you can also subscribe to Sustainable Investor, subscribe to this podcast and find further information in the show notes, where you can also find our contact details.  We'd love to hear your ideas as we plan future episodes.    Links to news items discussed:    Trump calls climate change a con https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/cop/trump-tells-un-that-climate-change-is-con-job-2025-09-23/ High Seas Treaty ratification https://www.ft.com/content/b0248bcc-67ba-4c2e-86e0-8e14eeccf82e Trump proposal to end quarterly reporting  https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/19/sec-to-propose-rule-change-on-trumps-call-to-end-quarterly-earnings-reporting-says-chair-atkins.html Court of Appeal ruling on SEC Climate Disclosure Rule Court Orders SEC to Either Defend, Change or Repeal Climate Reporting Rules - ESG Today SEC chief attacks on IFRS, European sustainability reporting  https://www.esgdive.com/news/sec-chair-atkins-targets-ifrs-priorities-concerns-eu-csrd-csddd-prescriptive-reporting/760026/ DOL official calls ESG Marxist at OECD https://www.dol.gov/agencies/ebsa/laws-and-regulations/laws/erisa/ebsa-addresses-trump-administration-pension-investing-priorities-at-oecd-event TPI Centre's State of Corporate Transition report https://sustainableinvestor.online/investors-left-in-the-dark-on-pace-of-corporate-transition/ UK DESNZ consultation on transition plans / disclosure standards https://uksif.org/uksif-response-desnz-transition-plan-requirements-consultation/ Taskforce on Nature-related Financial Disclosures 2025 status report https://sustainableinvestor.online/reporting-is-raising-nature-risk-to-board-attention-nbim/ PwC’s Global Sustainability Reporting Survey 2025 https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/issues/esg/global-sustainability-reporting-survey.html Nature's Price Tag: The economic cost of nature loss https://www.ceres.org/resources/reports/natures-price-tag-the-economic-cost-of-nature-loss Morningstar Voice of the Asset Owner report https://sustainableinvestor.online/live/esg-factors-aligned-with-fiduciary-duty-say-asset-owners/ Commission loses face over EUDR IT mess-up https://www.wwf.eu/?19285941/The-dog-ate-my-homework-Commission-loses-face-over-EUDR-IT-mess-up Are ESG Standards the scapegoat for stalling defence growth? https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/insights-papers/are-esg-standards-scapegoat-stalling-defence-growth chris.hall@sustainabletimes.co.uk

    59 min

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Risk, Return and Responsibility – the monthly podcast from Asset Owner Network - aims to provide institutional asset owners with news and views shaping both the sustainable investment landscape and our wider economic, environmental and social systems. In each episode, Chris Hall, Editorial Director, will be joined by co-hosts to discuss the biggest recent stories, and to round up some you might have missed. We will also be conducting deeper interviews with influential asset owners and others on the practical challenges of balancing risk, return and responsibility. To wrap up each episode, we will look back at some of the bigger stories covered recently by Sustainable Investor, as well as looking forward to the most significant upcoming developments, again with expert input from our co-hosts.