Romancing The Screen

Katherine O'Keefe, Annie Spong, Rachel Lee Flesher
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A podcast hosted by two experienced intimacy coordinators — Katherine O’Keefe (she/her), and Annie Spong (she/her). Join them in their warm and inclusive conversations as they delve into the intricate world of their craft, and how it interacts with the production process. They'll also share insightful stories from their experiences on (and off!) set working as ICs. In each episode, they attempt to unravel the standards, culture, and complexities surrounding intimacy and nudity in the entertainment industry, offering their three unique perspectives. As pioneers in a surprisingly new profession, Katherine and Annie aim to demystify the role of intimacy coordinators – addressing the need for ICs and why intimacy coordination is a crucial part of filmmaking. Tune in for enlightening chats from three friends who navigate through nuanced topics with grace and levity. Join us every Wednesday!

  1. 12/11/2025

    Lucy Shapiro & Taylor Smith Giresi, Co-Founders of Covvier

    Annie and Katherine talk with Taylor Smith Giresi and Lucy Taylor, co-founders of Covvier, some of the best modesty garment makers in the entertainment industry. Covvier products are some of the staples of Katherine and Annie's IC kit, and are trusted by productions at FX, Showtime, Netflix, and Hulu. We talk about the creative process for making and designing modesty garments, what brought Lucy and Taylor to found Covvier, and of course, the evolving role of wardrobe in modern filmmaking. Taylor Smith Giresi is the co-founder of Covvier. She’s worked as a PA, set costumer and wardrobe supervisor since moving to NYC in 2010. She’s worked on an array of shows and was recently nominated for an Emmy for Outstanding Contemporary Costumes for Mare of Easttown. Taylor grew up in a costume family, both of her parents worked as costumers on Broadway, and then later in film. The lightbulb moment came after having worked on numerous intimacy scenes throughout her career, and realizing there was no training or modesty garments that were specific for these scenes. She appreciates having been in the industry long enough to know what it was like before intimacy coordinators, and is energized to dedicating more time to helping create new industry standards surrounding intimate scenes. In addition to running a business, Taylor now has 2 small kids.  Lucy Shapiro is the co-founder of Covvier, a protective modesty garment company making exciting advances in the industry’s ability to keep actors safe and their dignity protected. She is also a set costumer on Emmy winning tv shows (including Pose, which won for best contemporary costumes in 2021), is an Emmy voting member of the Television Academy for over 10 years , and is a skilled crafter who enjoys working on many of her own personal projects. She grew up in LA with a father who worked as a studio executive, a mother who is a painter, and an older sister - who now works in the world of birth, trying every day to improve the conditions and experiences for birthing people and their families. Lucy has lived in NYC for almost 20 yrs, working in the costume and wardrobe department in film and tv for 15 of them. Starting Covvier, with partner Taylor Smith Giresi, has been the most fulfilling part of her career. After noticing holes in the industry, regarding intimate scenes -they knew they had to help make a change. You can find more of Lucy and Taylor, and Covvier on Instagram at @covvier_garments, and their website www.Covvier.com. You can find us on Instagram at @RomancingTheScreenPod, and you can email us questions at RomancingTheScreen@gmail.com. Thank you for listening! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    50 min

  2. 11/21/2025

    Costume Designer Kim Ngô

    Today, we talk to costume designer Kim Ngô, one of our most requested interview topics, about the well-trafficked intersection between intimacy coordination and the wardrobe department. How do they interact, and what is the balance like between actor, IC, costuming, and director like on set? How can communication be improved? Annie and Katherine talk to Kim about collaborating with actors and crew, how wardrobe and IC's interact with each other, and all of this can vary from set to set. You can find more of Kim Ngô on Instagram at @kimngoknows, and her website www.kimngodesign.com. You can find us on Instagram at @RomancingTheScreenPod, and you can email us questions at RomancingTheScreen@gmail.com. Thank you for listening! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    54 min

  3. 10/16/2025

    Actress June Squibb

    Actress June Squibb has been acting her whole life - "I never wanted to be an actress, I just was" - and she isn't stopping at age 95! Her new film, Eleanor the Great, is now in theaters. Annie and Katherine sit with Ms. Squibb to talk about her incredible career, from her Broadway debut in 1959 to Scarlett Johansson's directorial debut in 2025. She shares with us how fashion has changed, how she approaches her roles, and of course, a few stories about nudity in the entertainment industry! For more info about June Squibb, follow her @realjunesquibb, and for Eleanor The Great, check out: @eleanorthegreatfilm @eleanorthegreatmovienews @prmachinellc @sonyclassics You can find us at @RomancingThe ScreenPod, and you can email us questions and topics at RomancingTheScreenPod@gmail.com. Thank you for listening! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    55 min
  4. Intimacy Coordinators Unionize with SAG-AFTRA | A Special Episode!

    09/25/2024

    Intimacy Coordinators Unionize with SAG-AFTRA | A Special Episode!

    SURPRISE EPISODE & SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT In between seasons, Annie and Katherine are coming back to the mic to talk about a huge announcement, intimacy coordinators are unionizing with SAG AFTRA! In this episode, they discuss what this means for intimacy coordinators going forward, Annie and Katherine’s involvement in this whole process, and how grateful they are that so much hard work is finally coming to fruition. Unionizing would not have been possible without the entire intimacy coordinator community, and we are so excited to close out the episode by sharing our colleagues' thoughts and feelings at this monumental moment for our craft. Our incredible IC colleagues, in order of appearance in the episode: Rachel Lee Flesher @rachel_lee_flesher Zachariah Payne @zackorriahzachariah Jessica Bennett @jessicaebennett Chantal Cousineau @chantalcousineau.ic Yehuda Duenyas @___x_x_x_y___ Erin Tillman @datingadvicegrl Jean Franzblau @jeanfranzflau You can follow the show at @RomancingTheScreenPod, and email us questions for Season 2 at RomancingTheScreenPod@gmail.com. Thank you for listening! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    20 min
  5. That's A Wrap on Season 1! - Episode 20

    06/19/2024

    That's A Wrap on Season 1! - Episode 20

    Today, Annie and Katherine wrap up the first season of Romancing The Screen by talking about how far they've come in these 20 episodes, and what else is in store for Season 2! They also discuss what makes them proud to be an Intimacy Coordinator. You can follow us at @RomancingTheScreenPod, and email us new questions and topics for season two at RomancingTheScreenPod@gmail.com. Thank you for listening to RTS this season! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    9 min
  6. A Conversation with Alessa Carlino - Episode 19

    06/12/2024

    A Conversation with Alessa Carlino - Episode 19

    Alessa Carlino is the director of Spam Risk and Going Home: Homelessness and the Resiliency of the Human Spirit, which has garnered several awards on the film festival circuit, with both films from Unstoppable Pictures. With Katherine and Rachel out for this episode, Annie and Alessa share an insightful conversation, with questions about intimacy, ICs, and filmmaking exchanged both ways! We loved having @AlessaCarlino on the pod. You can find us at @RomancingTheScreenPod, and email us questions and topics at RomancingTheScreenPod@gmail.com. Thank you for listening! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    45 min
  7. How Do Intimacy Coordinators Prep For A Scene? - Episode 18

    06/05/2024

    How Do Intimacy Coordinators Prep For A Scene? - Episode 18

    We've talked about how ICs work with actors before filming to make sure everyone is on the same page, but how exactly does that go? What are the one-on-one prep moments like, and how do they change from project to project? Today Rachel, Annie, and Katherine talk about how they prep for the prep, and what makes this such a crucial aspect of the production process. You can find us at @RomancingTheScreenPod, and email us questions and topics at RomancingTheScreenPod@gmail.com. Thank you for listening! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    23 min
  8. How Do You Get A Job As An Intimacy Coordinator? - Episode 17

    05/29/2024

    How Do You Get A Job As An Intimacy Coordinator? - Episode 17

    We talk about the need for IC's, but how are they hired, and how often? Is there a network of intimacy coordinators? Today, Annie, Rachel, and Katherine discuss how they've been hired in the past, and how they search for more IC work, along with some general tips on getting hired in the entertainment industry. You can find us at @RomancingTheScreenPod, and you can email us questions and topics at RomancingTheScreenPod@gmail.com. Thank you for listening! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    28 min
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A podcast hosted by two experienced intimacy coordinators — Katherine O’Keefe (she/her), and Annie Spong (she/her). Join them in their warm and inclusive conversations as they delve into the intricate world of their craft, and how it interacts with the production process. They'll also share insightful stories from their experiences on (and off!) set working as ICs. In each episode, they attempt to unravel the standards, culture, and complexities surrounding intimacy and nudity in the entertainment industry, offering their three unique perspectives. As pioneers in a surprisingly new profession, Katherine and Annie aim to demystify the role of intimacy coordinators – addressing the need for ICs and why intimacy coordination is a crucial part of filmmaking. Tune in for enlightening chats from three friends who navigate through nuanced topics with grace and levity. Join us every Wednesday!

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  • Creator
    Katherine O'Keefe, Annie Spong, Rachel Lee Flesher
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2025
  • Episodes
    24
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Copyright 2025 Katherine O'Keefe, Annie Spong, Rachel Lee Flesher
  • Show Website
    Romancing The Screen