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Welcome to the RT Dialogue with your co-hosts Lance Ahl & Rhett Smith | Sound and Video Engineer RO Smith In this podcast we desire to make connections, build community, and learn and practice the model of Restoration Therapy. More at: https://rtdialogue.substack.com/ Note:The podcast is labeled with an explicit rating because some episodes contain topics that are distressing to individuals, or inappropriate for minors (i.e. trauma, abuse, sexuality, substance use, etc.)

  1. 3D AGO

    Season 2 | Episode 67 | Special Guest, Masters Level Intern & RT Therapist in Training (and new interventions) -- Justin Metz

    Welcome to Episode 67 of the RT Dialogue Podcast. We are so thankful to have you joining us on this journey. This is a little bit of a different episode in that we had a master's level student (Dallas Theological Seminary) on the podcast. Justin Metz is currently training in Restoration Therapy, having already completed Level I with Dr. Terry Hargrave this last February, while also completing Relate Strong training at seminary with Dr. Gary Barnes. Justin is on staff at The Marriage Place in Frisco, TX, which is great, since we (Rhett) can meet up for coffee regularly to discuss all things RT. We really were inspired by the interventions that Justin is creating and already using in therapy work, and the way that he and his wife have been leading a Relate Strong group at their church. It's a lot of fun to see the way that varying interventions within the RT community are being built upon and used in different ways -- we see this in Justin as he was inspired by some interventions that Migum Gweon discussed on Episode 34 of this podcast, and Tanner Hargrove's intervention on Episode 26 of this podcast. We think you will especially love his practice of the Pain and Peace Cycle through use of rearview mirror hanging tags...brilliant. And it was insightful to hear how his experience as a ballroom dancer/instructor over the years has informed his couple's work. Enjoy the episode. Mentioned in the Episode Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes are High by Joseph Grenny, Kerry Patterson, Ron McMillan, Al Switzler, and Emily Gregory Psalm 40 by U2 Athanasian Creed Sue Johnson and Dancing the EFIT Tango Rearview Mirror Hangers

    1h 4m

  2. MAR 24

    Season 2 | Episode 66 | Special Guest, RT Therapist & Assistant Professor, Dr. Corynne Keirnes

    Welcome to Episode 66 of the RT Dialogue. It was great to have Dr. Corynne Keirnes on this episode. Corynne is a graduate of Fuller Theological Seminary's MFT program, where she studied under Dr. Terry Hargrave. She is a Level II Certified Restoration Therapist, and Assistant Professor of Clinical Psychology at Vanguard University where she teaches classes and trains students. She and her husband Cameron are also the founders of New Horizon Integrative Therapy in the Denver, CO area. We love that there is another professor at a university teaching students about Restoration Therapy, and helping them practice the model. Her love for intensives is also really exciting, and something we dive into in this episode. Mentioned in the Episode Whole Brain Child: 12 Revolutionary Strategies to Nurture Your Child's Developing Mind by Dan Siegel and Tina Payne Bryson

    1h 9m

  3. MAR 17

    Season 2 | Episode 65 | New York Times Best Selling Author, Brad Stulberg

    Welcome to Episode 65 of the RT Dialogue. We were so excited that Brad Stulberg agreed to come on our podcast and discuss his latest book, New York Times Bestseller, The Way of Excellence: A Guide to True Greatness and Deep Satisfaction in a Chaotic World. Brad is the author of four books, and it was his 2017 book, Peak Performance that introduced me to his work (Rhett), and led me to start jotting down notes in the pages (i.e. pain cycle, peace cycle, 4 steps, etc.) of his work that reminded me a lot of the process of change in Restoration Therapy. In 2001 I fell in love with his book (Rhett) The Practice of Groundedness and was passing it out to executives that I was coaching as they were trying to lead organizations through COVID. Brad writes, speaks, coaches, and is on faculty at the University of Michigan's graduate faculty of Public Health. He is also the co-founder of the Growth Equation with Steve Magness. As I share in the podcast, Brad's superpower is that he reads all the important work, takes all of that information and knowledge, and knows how to synthesize and convey it in simple, easy to understand writing. It’s a gift. And every time I’ve read one of his books, I think to myself, “this is the book I wish I could have written." Brad's latest book covers a lot about the importance of mastering one's craft, and moving away from performative behavior towards deep connection and transformation -- all things that we feel are important about the work and practice of Restoration Therapy -- both as a model, and as a community. Thanks for coming on the podcast Brad, we really enjoyed our time with you on and off the air. Mentioned in the Episode Peak Performance Passion Paradox The Practice of Groundedness Master of Change Richard Rohr Against the Machine Tony Gywnn Tarik Skubal How Awe Helps with Anxiety

    52 min

  4. MAR 10

    Season 2 | Episode 64 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Bryan Snead

    Welcome to Episode 64 of the RT Dialogue. On this episode we welcome RT Therapist Bryan Snead, who is Assistant Director of Counseling at Hill Country Bible Church. We have come to know Bryan over this last year connecting through RT Training and Texas RT Zoom monthly meetings. Bryan came to Restoration Therapy after journeying through a lot of other models, and on this episode he shares his love of what he has learned along the way, and his love of integrating neuroscience into this work. Bryan and the counseling center at Hill Country Bible Church have become instrumental as well in helping plan the April Texas Restoration Therapy Gathering -- so thankful for them. Enjoy the episode! Mentioned in the Episode Bruce Ecker The 7 Emotion Circuits -- Jaak Panksepp The Way of Excellence: A Guide to True Greatness and Deep Satisfaction in a Chaotic World by Brad Stulberg

    1h 1m

  5. MAR 5

    Season 2 | Episode 63 | Special Guests, Jeff and Robin Reinke

    Welcome to Episode 63 of the RT Dialogue! On this episode we had the privilege of sitting down with the amazing couple of Jeff and Robin Reinke, who have been so influential in the Restoration Therapy community. They have quite the story -- both LMFT's -- Robin pursued licensure and the therapeutic route, whereas, Jeff went the route of ministry. Along the way they trained under Sue Johnson, the Gottmans, and eventually met Terry and Sharon Hargrave (and the rest is history as they say). Over the years they have poured into people and the community -- Robin in her role of therapist, and Jeff in ministry circle and the development of the Relationship Resource. It's hard to capture in words just how much of an impact they have had in the Restoration Therapy community (and beyond), and so we were so thankful to have them on. Mentioned in the Episode Free to Love: Transforming Pain into Peace (podcast) Relationship Resource Men's Skills Women's Skills The Refuge Marriage Intensive Badly Broken Deeply Loved: How to Find God's Healing, Wholeness & Peace by Jeff Reinke Ron and Nan Deal

    1 hr

  6. MAR 2

    Season 2 | Episode 62 | Nancy Frigaard & Michael Piciucco on the new Asher Graduate School of Counseling

    Welcome to Episode 62 of the RT Dialogue Podcast -- we are so glad that you joined us. This is a really special episode as we got to sit down with two of our colleagues in the Restoration Therapy community and hear about their launching of the new Asher Graduate School of Counseling. Nancy Frigaard (Episode 45) and Michael Piciucco (Episode 11). This is a wild story with some really remarkable turn of events on their journey to opening up the Asher Graduate School. Check out their website for more information, but it looks like they will officially launch with a September cohort -- beginning with their Doctor of Ministry degree in Marriage and Family Studies (and soon to be other programs...). We are really excited for Nancy and Michael and all of the people involved in helping them launch the graduate school. And we are really excited for the RT community as it will be a great place for students to learn and practice the beautiful and life changing Restoration Therapy model. Mentioned in the Episode Lead Like it Matters to God: Values-Driven Leadership in a Success-Driven World by Richard Stearns Born to Be Wild by Steppenwolf (lyrics)

    1h 16m

  7. FEB 23

    Season 2 | Episode 61 | Obstacle Course Intervention w/Jennifer Smith & Lorenzo Cantoja

    [PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO OF THIS EPISODE] Welcome to Episode 61 of the RT Dialogue podcast! We are really excited to have back Jennifer Smith and Lorenzo Cantoja, who you may remember from ⁠⁠⁠⁠Episode 45⁠⁠⁠⁠. In that episode we introduced you to the work of ⁠⁠⁠⁠Nancy Frigaard⁠⁠⁠⁠ and part of her team (Jennifer and Lorenzo) at ⁠⁠⁠⁠Freedom Family Counseling⁠⁠⁠⁠. This is an ongoing intervention series: Episode 57 -- ⁠⁠Lenny the Lizard⁠⁠Episode 58 -- ⁠⁠Pete the Pain Eater⁠⁠Episode 59 -- ⁠Fireballs of Pain & the Truth Shield⁠Episode 60 -- Empty Chair Bear (ECB) Nancy is the author of ⁠⁠⁠⁠A Playful Approach to Restoration Therapy: Helping Kids Play Their Way from Pain to Peace⁠⁠⁠⁠, and in this episode (and the ones following) we look at some interventions she uses in the book (and one that isn't in there). Jennifer and Lorenzo have so much energy and enthusiasm for the work that they do, and so it was a lot of fun to have them on. In this episode they demonstrate the "Empty Chair Bear (ECB)" intervention, which can be found in ⁠⁠⁠⁠A Playful Approach to Restoration Therapy: Helping Kids Play Their Way from Pain to Peace⁠⁠⁠⁠. [adapted word list for use with children can be found in the episodes on ⁠⁠⁠⁠RT Dialogue Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠]

    10 min

  8. FEB 19

    Season 2 | Episode 60 | Empty Chair Bear (ECB) Intervention w/Jennifer Smith & Lorenzo Cantoja

    [PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO OF THIS EPISODE] Welcome to Episode 60 of the RT Dialogue podcast! We are really excited to have back Jennifer Smith and Lorenzo Cantoja, who you may remember from ⁠⁠⁠Episode 45⁠⁠⁠. In that episode we introduced you to the work of ⁠⁠⁠Nancy Frigaard⁠⁠⁠ and part of her team (Jennifer and Lorenzo) at ⁠⁠⁠Freedom Family Counseling⁠⁠⁠. This is an ongoing intervention series: Episode 57 -- ⁠Lenny the Lizard⁠Episode 58 -- ⁠Pete the Pain Eater⁠Episode 59 -- Fireballs of Pain & the Truth Shield Nancy is the author of ⁠⁠⁠A Playful Approach to Restoration Therapy: Helping Kids Play Their Way from Pain to Peace⁠⁠⁠, and in this episode (and the ones following) we look at some interventions she uses in the book (and one that isn't in there). Jennifer and Lorenzo have so much energy and enthusiasm for the work that they do, and so it was a lot of fun to have them on. In this episode they demonstrate the "Fireballs of Pain & the Truth Shield " intervention, which can be found in ⁠⁠⁠A Playful Approach to Restoration Therapy: Helping Kids Play Their Way from Pain to Peace⁠⁠⁠. [adapted word list for use with children can be found in the episodes on ⁠⁠⁠RT Dialogue Substack⁠⁠⁠]

    11 min
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Welcome to the RT Dialogue with your co-hosts Lance Ahl & Rhett Smith | Sound and Video Engineer RO Smith In this podcast we desire to make connections, build community, and learn and practice the model of Restoration Therapy. More at: https://rtdialogue.substack.com/ Note:The podcast is labeled with an explicit rating because some episodes contain topics that are distressing to individuals, or inappropriate for minors (i.e. trauma, abuse, sexuality, substance use, etc.)

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    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
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