Rubbish Talk

Alasdair Meldrum and Jane Bond from Albion Environmental Ltd

The Rubbish Talk podcast is brought to you by staff from Albion Environmental, to widen the conversation about managing waste and resources in the UK. Each episode will interview a new guest who plays an important role within the waste and resource management industry. We will discuss everything from career journeys, balancing work and personal life, and generally just talk some rubbish. Get in touch by emailing hello@rubbishtalk.co.uk Episodes released Thu. 4pm fortnightly. LinkedIn: Albion Environmental Latest industry news: www.industrynews.albion-environmental.co.uk

  1. 3D AGO

    Episode 103: Victoria Taylor, CEO, Probe Industries Ltd

    This week on Rubbish Talk, Alasdair is joined by Victoria Taylor, Chief Executive Officer of Probe Industries Ltd — a family-run business specialising in odour and dust control across the waste and water sectors. Victoria shares her journey into the industry, which started unexpectedly when she stepped in to help the family business before university. What began as a short-term role quickly turned into a career, as she gained hands-on experience across waste sites and built her knowledge from the ground up. She went on to take over the business in 2011 and today leads a company with three generations of family involvement. A key focus of the episode is the challenge of odour control in waste management. Victoria explains that effective solutions go far beyond masking smells — instead targeting and breaking down odour compounds at a molecular level. This is particularly important on complex sites where traditional containment or extraction systems aren’t always practical. Innovation runs throughout the conversation, with Probe taking a strong R&D-led approach, developing new technologies and exploring smarter systems that can detect and respond to odour issues in real time. The discussion also highlights the human side of waste operations, with Victoria emphasising how site conditions — including odour and dust — can impact staff wellbeing, morale and productivity. Victoria also reflects openly on the realities of running a business, from securing major contracts to navigating setbacks like international fraud. Her message is clear: resilience, learning from mistakes, and adaptability are key to long-term success. Looking ahead, Probe is focused on international growth, with expanding markets across Europe, North America and the Middle East. The episode also touches on wider industry challenges, particularly regulation, with Victoria calling for a more joined-up and supportive approach between regulators and operators. Finally, Victoria shares her thoughts on careers in the sector — encouraging more people, especially young people, to consider waste and resources as an exciting and rewarding field. With growing opportunities across science, engineering, and sustainability, it’s an industry that offers far more than many expect. A fascinating conversation that blends innovation, business insight, and real-world experience — and a reminder of the important role that specialist technologies and passionate people play in keeping our waste systems running.

    39 min
  2. MAR 19

    Episode 102: News Round-Up

    After a run of brilliant student episodes and celebratingour 100th milestone, the news has been quietly piling up… so this week, Jane and Alasdair dive into a much-needed news special.   News Government urges councils to seize and crush fly-tippers’vehicles With 1.26 million incidents recorded, this feels like a step in the right direction. Jane highlights the huge cost to councils, while Alasdair questions whether stronger enforcement like vehicle seizure might finally make people think twice. Mother fined £11,500 for binning batteries A tough one — Jane notes the scale (23 batteries!), while Alasdair points out the rules were clear. It raises the bigger question: how far should enforcement go to change behaviour? Laughing gas canisters causing explosions at waste sites Hundreds of explosions a week — both are baffled these are still ending up in bins. Alasdair questions why products are sold without factoring in safe disposal, while Jane compares it to the ongoing battery and vape issue. Criminals stealing used cooking oil from chip shops A sign of the times — waste becoming valuable. Jane links it back to rising fuel prices, while Alasdair notes it’s a familiar pattern: materials left out for collection being intercepted before they reach legitimate processors. Man trains dog to fly-tip rubbish As bizarre as it is frustrating — both agree it shows the lengths people go to avoid doing the right thing. As the police said: clever, but still wrong. 'Your balloon releases aren’t going to heaven'A refreshing positive — Jane gives this a “gold star,” while both highlight it as a great example of businesses taking responsibility and saying no for environmental reasons. Landfill gas used to grow food in giant domeA great example of circular thinking. Alasdair sees real potential in using waste heat and CO₂ locally, while Jane notes it’s a practical way to turn landfill into something positive. Plastic wet wipes ban proposed in ScotlandA long time coming. Both highlight the impact on fatbergs and beaches — and agree this is one of those changes that should simply be standard everywhere. Returnable glass bottles making a comebackA reminder that reuse isn’t new. Alasdair reflects that we may have gone too far towards recycling, while Jane notes the practicality challenge — but agreesthe principle is strong. 75% of UK waste tyre exports untrackedA worrying statistic. Both point to the need for tighter controls, with comparisons to Australia’s shred-only approach showing there are workable alternatives. Legacy landfill risks under reviewA key reminder — landfill hasn’t gone away. Alasdair stresses the importance of long-term management and expertise, while Jane notes its ongoing role when other infrastructure isn’t available. Coffee grounds could strengthen concreteInnovation at its best — turning waste into a resource. Both are impressed, though Jane questions the processing cost, while Alasdair highlights reduced reliance on natural materials. Plastic from the 1960s washing up in OrkneyA stark reminder of plastic’s longevity. Jane is struck by how far it’s travelled, while both reflect on the long-term legacy of today’s waste.   Rant of the Week: “Too Icky” for Food Waste? This week’s rant is sparked by a news article that foodwaste bins are “too icky” for households. Jane and Alasdair question how something so essential —reducing emissions, saving costs, and recovering energy — can be dismissed so easily. Food waste collections are a key part of modern waste systems, yet participation is still far from where it needs to be. The frustration isn’t just with the perception, but with howit’s communicated. The benefits — environmental and financial — aren’t always clearly explained, and without that, it’s no surprise people don’t engage. The message is simple: Use the system as it’s designed — it works, but only if people actually use it.

    42 min
  3. MAR 12

    Episode 101: 100 Years of Waste in Scotland (Part 2)

    Last week we explored the early history of waste management in Scotland, from the early 1900s through to the 1970s. In Episode 101, Jane and Alasdair pick up the story from the 1980s onwards, looking at how regulation, technology and policy shaped the modern waste sector we know today. The 1980s marked a period of major change. The sector was still heavily reliant on landfill, but environmental awareness and legislation were beginning to grow. The introduction of wheelie bins increased household waste capacity, while early recycling initiatives such as bottle banks started appearing. At the same time, wider policy shifts like compulsory competitive tendering began changing how local authority waste services were delivered. The groundwork was also being laid for what would become one of the most important pieces of legislation in the sector — the Environmental Protection Act 1990. Moving into the 1990s, waste management began to professionalise rapidly. The introduction of waste management licensing regulations, the creation of the Environment Agency and SEPA in 1996, and the introduction of landfill tax fundamentally reshaped how waste was handled and regulated. Landfill sites became more engineered and regulated, and landfill tax provided one of the first strong financial drivers pushing waste away from disposal and towards recycling. The early 2000s saw major investment in recycling infrastructure. Scotland’s National Waste Strategy and the Strategic Waste Fund led to large expansions in kerbside recycling schemes and significant increases in recycling rates — rising from around 5% in 2000 to roughly 45% within a few years. This period also saw increased collaboration between local authorities, regulators and researchers to develop best practice in waste management. In the 2010s and beyond, the focus shifted again — from simply managing waste safely to thinking about resources, circular economy principles and climate impacts. Policies such as net zero commitments, circular economy strategies and changes in global recycling markets (including China’s National Sword policy) reshaped how waste materials were managed internationally. Looking back across the last century, Jane summarises the journey simply: Early regulation focused on protecting public health,Later legislation aimed to protect the environment,More recent policy focuses on protecting resources and reducing carbon. It’s been a century of huge change — but as Jane and Alasdair reflect, the real challenge now is turning strategies and policies into practical implementation that delivers results on the ground. As always, we’d love to hear your thoughts. If you’ve worked in the sector or have memories of how waste management has changed over the years, get in touch or share them with us on social media.

    59 min
  4. MAR 5

    Episode 100: 100 Years of Waste in Scotland (Part 1)

    We’ve reached Episode 100 of Rubbish Talk — although technically it’s even more once you include our pilot and special episodes! Across those recordings we’ve had 77 guests, over 100 hours of conversation, and listeners from 73 countries around the world. Thank you to everyone who has supported the podcast along the way.   To mark the milestone, Jane and Alasdair take a step back to explore 100 years of waste management in Scotland. The idea came from reaching out to some of our previous podcast guests and asking what they thought would make a good topic for Episode 100 — so thank you to everyone who shared suggestions. In particular, John Crawford (Episode 53) kindly provided a detailed paper on the history of waste management in Scotland, which helped shape this episode and the timeline we discuss, so a big thank you to John as well.  In the 1920s and 1930s, waste was mainly ash and cinders from coal fires. Collection was often done by horse and cart, and disposal was typically basic incineration or burning. Very little was wasted, as reuse and repair were part of everyday life.   During the 1940s, wartime rationing and government salvage campaigns meant materials were reused wherever possible. Packaging was minimal and most household waste could simply be burned in coal fires.  By the 1950s and 1960s, consumer culture and plastics began to change the waste stream. Waste volumes increased, incinerators struggled with new materials, and landfill started to become the dominant disposal route. Early environmental legislation also began to appear, including the Clean Air Act and the Civic Amenities Act, which introduced the first public waste disposal sites.  The 1970s brought major change with the Deposit of Poisonous Waste Act 1972 and the Control of Pollution Act 1974, which introduced licensing for waste sites and stronger environmental regulation. Collection systems also evolved, with many councils moving to kerbside sack collections instead of traditional metal bins.  This episode takes us up to the 1970s, setting the scene for the modern waste industry. In Episode 101, Jane and Alasdair will continue the story — covering the 1980s through to today and how recycling, regulation and the circular economy transformed the sector.  Finally, a huge thank you to everyone who has supported Rubbish Talk over the past 100 episodes — our brilliant guests, the listeners who tune in each week, and everyone who shares the podcast and joins the conversation about waste and resources. We’re incredibly grateful for the support, so here’s to the next 100 episodes and continuing to explore the fascinating world of waste together!

    55 min
  5. FEB 26

    Episode 99: Future of Waste: Student Voices from Edinburgh

    This week on Rubbish Talk, Alasdair and Jane are joined once again by students from the University of Edinburgh’s MSc programmes — and this time, we feature two powerful student-created podcasts as part of their Resource Recovery and Circular Economy coursework Cate Satoris, an MSc Environment & Development student originally from North Dakota, explores single-use plastic habits in UK supermarkets. Coming from the United States, Cate was surprised to find that produce in the UK often arrives pre-wrapped in plastic — a choice she hadn’t expected in a country seen as environmentally progressive. Her podcast digs into why so much plastic packaging is still used, the limits of soft plastic take-back schemes, and how policies like Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) and the Plastic Packaging Tax aim to shift responsibility back to producers. Cate argues that while recycling schemes help, they are not enough — the real solution lies in eliminating unnecessary packaging at source. Vanessa Ngwi, an MSc Environmental Sustainability student from Cameroon, turns our attention to a very different but equally urgent waste challenge. Her podcast, “Rethinking Rubbish: Circular Solutions for Cameroon’s Waste Crisis,” explores the reality of overflowing landfills and limited formal waste collection systems. Drawing on personal experience, Vanessa highlights how over half of municipal waste in Cameroon is organic and could be composted locally rather than buried. She proposes a practical two-pillar approach: decentralised community composting combined with Extended Producer Responsibility to fund recycling infrastructure. Her message is clear — high-tech solutions aren’t always the answer; people-centred, practical systems can create real change. Both podcasts reflect the power of education, international collaboration, and fresh perspectives in tackling global waste challenges. It’s inspiring to hear how students are connecting policy, behaviour change, and lived experience to rethink how we manage resources — whether in Edinburgh, North Dakota, or Yaoundé. As we approach Episode 100, it’s a reminder that the next generation of waste professionals is already thinking critically and creatively about the future.

    39 min
  6. FEB 19

    Episode 98: Future of Waste: Student Voices from Edinburgh

    This week’s episode is a little different as Alasdair and Jane hand the mic over to two MSc students linked to the University of Edinburgh and SRUC, showcasing podcasts they created as part of their Resource Recovery and Circular Economy module.   With Episode 100 fast approaching, it feels fitting to highlight the next generation of waste professionals already thinking critically about the future of sustainability.  First up is Angeli Srirangan, currently studying MSc Environmental Sustainability at the University of Edinburgh after transitioning from a marketing career in retail. Drawing on her experience working for a major supermarket, Angeli explores how retailers can reduce excessive packaging and improve recyclability in practice. Her podcast examines Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR), reuse schemes like refill systems, and the balance between regulation, innovation and cost. She highlights how design decisions made by retailers can remove millions of tonnes of plastic before it ever reaches consumers — proving that upstream change can have massive downstream impact.  Angeli also reflects on the role of government in accelerating progress, from clearer labelling and reuse targets to material bans and financial incentives for innovation. Her message is clear: while EPR is a step forward, true circularity requires moving beyond recycling towards reduction and reuse.  Next up we have Chizoba Kama, another MSc Environmental Sustainability student at the University of Edinburgh, who previously worked in Nigeria’s environmental sector and as an EcoBarter ambassador encouraging recycling at household level. Her podcast focuses on food redistribution innovations and how global case studies are helping divert food waste from landfill.  Chizoba examines legislative approaches like France’s supermarket donation laws, digital platforms such as Too Good To Go, and community-driven redistribution models in Germany and Japan. She explores both the opportunities and the limitations of redistribution — emphasising that while technology and policy can reduce waste, prevention must always come first. Cultural values, infrastructure, and access all shape whether these systems succeed.  Both podcasts demonstrate thoughtful research, global awareness and a strong understanding that waste management is as much about behaviour, culture and economics as it is about bins and infrastructure.  This episode builds on our ongoing connection with the University of Edinburgh and SRUC’s Resource Recovery and Circular Economy module, led by Jennifer Carfrae from Episode 48. If you haven’t listened to that conversation yet, it’s well worth a catch-up.  Jane and Alasdair also lecture on the Waste and Resources component of the MSc programme, so it’s always a real pleasure to see students take those discussions further and turn their learning into thoughtful, practical podcast projects of their own.  A huge thank you to both students for allowing us to share their work — and to the Resource Recovery and Circular Economy teaching team for continuing to inspire future leaders in the sector.  The future of waste and circular economy thinking is in very capable hands.

    33 min
  7. FEB 12

    Episode 97: The Waste Journey of Cooking Oil

    News Roundup GAP Group launches UK-wide insulation panel recycling service GAP Group has announced a new UK-wide service to recycle insulation panels, helping tackle materials that have historically been difficult to manage at end of life. The discussion links back to Episode 39, highlighting how specialist treatment is important as construction and demolition waste grows more complex. Enva to open new fridge recycling facility in Dartford Enva has revealed plans for a 124,000 sq ft fridge recycling facility in Kent, capable of processing around 35,000 tonnes a year. With fridges containing harmful refrigerant gases and insulating foams, expanding UK treatment capacity is critical to preventing emissions and reducing reliance on export or long-distance haulage. UK Government publishes first PFAS action plan The UK’s first dedicated plan to address PFAS — often referred to as “forever chemicals” — marks an important step in recognising their long-term environmental and health risks. While much of the focus is on water, the implications for landfill leachate and contaminated waste streams are significant for the wider waste sector. One house used Fife Council bulky uplift service 35 times in a year A single household’s repeated use of Fife Council’s bulky uplift service has reignited debate around fairness, access, and abuse of free services. The story links neatly back to Episode 82 , where the balance between preventing fly-tipping and avoiding system misuse was explored in depth. McDonald’s launches new “Friends” collectibles The launch of another wave of plastic collectibles raises familiar questions about short-lived novelty items and their environmental footprint. While marketed at adults this time, Alasdair and Jane question whether these products have any realistic end-of-life beyond the bin. Rick Stein’s Australia highlights sustainable food practices In his latest BBC series, Rick Stein showcases chefs embracing whole-animal use and local sourcing. The episode featuring Josh Niland’s approach to fish butchery stood out as a strong example of waste prevention through design — reducing food waste before it even exists. Topic: The Waste Journey of Cooking Oil This week’s main discussion focuses on cooking oil — a common household product with a surprisingly complex waste journey. Around 176 million litres of cooking oil are sold in the UK each year, yet estimates suggest closer to 250 million litres of used oil are generated annually. This discrepancy highlights just how unclear the data can be, particularly for household disposal. Despite long-running campaigns, a significant proportion of people still pour fats, oils, and grease down sinks and toilets. This behaviour contributes to sewer blockages, fatbergs, flooding, and costly repairs. The festive period is especially problematic, with millions of litres of oil entering drains over Christmas alone. When disposed of correctly, used cooking oil is far from waste. Collected oil is routinely converted into biodiesel for transport and machinery, with by-products such as glycerol used in soaps, cosmetics, and pharmaceuticals. The catering sector generally performs well thanks to established collection systems, but household participation remains patchy. The takeaway is simple: never pour oil down the drain. Let it cool, solidify it where possible, and check local guidance — whether that’s food waste collections or dedicated drop-off points at recycling centres. Treated properly, cooking oil can power vehicles rather than block pipes. Rubbish Rant of the Week: Disposable Thinking This week’s rant takes aim at the ongoing contradiction between innovation and throwaway culture. While materials like cooking oil can be successfully recovered and turned into fuel, we continue to flood the market with items and packaging that have no meaningful end-of-life plan.

    33 min
  8. FEB 5

    Episode 96: Waste Journey of End-of-Life Vehicles (ELVs)

    This week, Alasdair and Jane take a deep dive into what happens when a car reaches the end of the road. With around 1–2 million end-of-life vehicles scrapped in the UK each year, it’s a massive waste stream — and it’s becoming even more complex as modern vehicles contain more plastics, electronics, composites, and hazardous components than ever before.  They explain that scrapping a vehicle isn’t as simple as crushing it into a cube. Before anything else happens, cars must be deregistered and taken to an Authorised Treatment Facility (ATF), where the first priority is depollution. That means safely removing fluids like fuel, oils, coolant and brake fluid, along with batteries, airbags, and other hazardous parts. As Jane points out, airbags are effectively explosive devices — so there’s a very real safety process behind dismantling vehicles properly.  The episode also explores the growing role of reuse, with “green parts” now commonly used by garages and insurers. Instead of fitting brand new parts, repairers can source working components from scrapped vehicles — saving money and keeping materials in circulation for longer. It’s a great example of circular economy principles already working well in practice.  Finally, they touch on the trickier end of ELV recycling: the leftover “frag” or shredder residue that remains once the metals have been recovered. This mixed material can contain plastics, foams, small metals and contaminants, and it’s often harder to treat or recycle — raising questions about what happens to the last difficult fraction once the high-value materials are removed.    Rubbish Rant: Plastic Film – Too Soon?  This week’s rant focuses on Scotland’s Duty of Care consultation, which includes proposals around requiring commercial premises to start segregating plastic film. While the ambition is clear, Alasdair questions whether the system is ready — arguing we still struggle to properly manage the plastic streams we already collect, so adding another challenging material could be putting the cart before the horse.

    33 min

About

The Rubbish Talk podcast is brought to you by staff from Albion Environmental, to widen the conversation about managing waste and resources in the UK. Each episode will interview a new guest who plays an important role within the waste and resource management industry. We will discuss everything from career journeys, balancing work and personal life, and generally just talk some rubbish. Get in touch by emailing hello@rubbishtalk.co.uk Episodes released Thu. 4pm fortnightly. LinkedIn: Albion Environmental Latest industry news: www.industrynews.albion-environmental.co.uk

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