Going Long

FCLTGlobal

Non-profit FCLTGlobal interviews today's leaders in global business and investing to discuss how they are running their companies for the long term, on issues including capital allocation, risk management, climate change, sustainability, and more. Hosted by Sarah Keohane Williamson, CEO of FCLTGlobal. To learn more, visit FCLTGlobal.org.

  1. 17 NOV

    S8E1: Mark Machin on The Scientific Mindset Behind Long-Term Investing

    On this episode of the Going Long Podcast, Sarah Williamson welcomes Mark Machin, co-founder of Intrepid Growth Partners and former CEO of CPP Investments. From neuroscience at Oxford to leading one of the world’s largest pension funds — and now investing in transformative AI companies — Machin shares how an analytical, data-driven mindset shapes his approach to long-term investing and innovation. Topics include: [00:02:00] From Science to Strategy: How Machin’s neuroscience background shapes his data-driven, probability-based approach to long-term investing and how early models of AI drew from our understanding (and misunderstandings) of the human brain.[00:04:00] Founding FCLTGlobal to Fix Short-Termism: The research that exposed corporate short-term bias and inspired FCLTGlobal’s creation, and why the mission to realign incentives for long-term value remains just as vital today.[00:08:00] Market Evolution: Private, Public, and Geopolitical Shifts: Machin’s perspective on the merging of private and public markets, the rise of liquidity tools, and how U.S.–China tensions are reshaping global capital flows and risk.[00:14:00] Investing in the AI Economy: Inside Intrepid Growth Partners’ focus on enterprise AI companies with measurable results, examples like StackAdapt and Skin Analytics, and how value is moving up the stack from chips to applications.[00:30:00] The Future of Finance and Work: Why AI may flatten traditional hierarchies, make advisors smarter (not obsolete), and change how young professionals enter finance, all while creating new opportunities for human creativity.[00:41:00] Looking Twenty Years Ahead: Machin’s long-range themes: a rebound in biotech, underappreciated Canadian and European tech, a potential commodities super-cycle, and the coming wave of quantum computing.

    45 min
  2. 27 MAY

    S7E8: Wafra's Adel Alderbas on Building Capital Constellation and the Future of GP Staking

    On this episode of the Going Long Podcast, Sarah Williamson welcomes Adel Alderbas, Chief Investment Officer of Wafra, to discuss how the firm is redefining the landscape of alternatives and pioneering new investment models that benefit both asset owners and emerging managers. For listeners interested in the intersection of long-term investing, alternative assets, and entrepreneurial innovation, this episode offers valuable insights into how to navigate these areas successfully. Topics include:  [00:02:04] – Introduction and background on Wafra: Adel Alderbas introduces Wafra’s 40-year history and its evolution from a parent-focused firm into a $28 billion global alternatives manager. Their differentiated strategy includes 3 main pillars: strategic investments, real assets, and their real estate investing program. [00:04:21] – The GP-Staking model explained: Alderbas describes Capital Constellation as a partnership of global investors working together to support emerging asset managers. Wafra’s unique institutional DNA, combining “LP humility” with “GP rigor,” enables it to innovate and lead in alternative investments. [00:07:46] – The challenges of balancing long-range liabilities with keeping portfolios vibrant: Alderbas emphasizes prioritizing investor entrepreneurs who can build sustainable, value-adding businesses that will outlast their own leadership. [00:10:39] – The importance of relationship-building: Alderbas highlights the emotional loyalty and stronger alignment that comes from backing investor entrepreneurs early, emphasizing the strategic benefits for asset owners – particularly early co-investment access and valuable market intelligence. He highlights the value of transparency, open dialogue, and intentionally collaborative relationships, contrasting this with the industry’s typical disengaged LP-GP dynamics. [00:22:14] – Alderbas credits Wafra’s CEO for fostering a culture of transparency and cross-disciplinary collaboration. Alderbas emphasizes breaking down traditional investment silos—like between GPs and LPs or asset classes—which requires top-down commitment, cultural redesign, and a long-term mindset that persists through initial efforts and delayed results.[00:29:02] – Reflecting on the dual nature of financial innovation in private markets: While tools that increase liquidity enhance accessibility, they also introduce volatility, particularly in stressed environments. Wafra maintains a long-term conviction-based approach, resisting reactive selling to rebalance portfolios when public markets dip.

    38 min
  3. 04/09/2024

    S7E4: Raphael Arndt on Building Resilient Sovereign Wealth Funds

    Sarah Williamson interviews Raphael Arndt, the Chief Executive Officer of the Future Fund, Australia’s sovereign wealth fund managing A$285 billion on behalf of the Commonwealth of Australia. Arndt shares insights into the Future Fund's culture and investment approach, emphasizing the importance of a collaborative, whole-portfolio strategy. He discusses the impact of global economic and geopolitical shifts on long-term investment strategies, the challenges of managing reputational risk, and the need to adapt to a changing world. Topics include: [00:01:55] Overview of the Future Fund: Background on the establishment, mission, and current management of Australia's sovereign wealth fund.  [00:06:04] Future Fund’s Investment Culture: Discussion on the collaborative, whole-portfolio approach and the challenges of maintaining this culture during growth and external pressures like COVID-19. [00:12:48] Geopolitical and Economic Shifts: Insights on how global geopolitical changes, including a move towards a more multipolar world, are influencing long-term investment strategies. [00:23:59] Revisiting Portfolio Construction: Exploring the need for more dynamic and flexible portfolio management in a world of increasing volatility and inflation. [00:36:27] Optimism Amidst Change: Arndt's outlook on the opportunities created by the current economic environment, and the importance of adapting to change.

    35 min

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Non-profit FCLTGlobal interviews today's leaders in global business and investing to discuss how they are running their companies for the long term, on issues including capital allocation, risk management, climate change, sustainability, and more. Hosted by Sarah Keohane Williamson, CEO of FCLTGlobal. To learn more, visit FCLTGlobal.org.

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