“Safety science” for cybersecurity with Ira Winkler, leading cyber-espionage authority Cloudy With a Chance of Trust

End users are not and never will be perfect components of your cybersecurity infrastructure. Why not remove the human element altogether and design security directly into the infrastructure to begin with? Author, speaker, and industry-recognized expert Ira Winkler, CISSP, has been advocating this position for decades. In this episode, Lisa and Pam speak to Ira about the evolution of “human security engineering” and how a zero trust architecture can deliver the right operating environment to proactively mitigate risks.