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The dirtiest secrets. That's what's happening here. Well...not entirely. Humans have always fascinated me. I'm most curious about what drives us creatively forward in our lives. When others share their stories with me, I arrive a little closer to knowing how many parallels we all share - how big this human family is, and that comforts me. I hope that by sharing these with you, you might know that too. I also hope that I'm able to present these in a way that you have a visceral experience - like you're there with us at the time and place of the interview - inside these beautiful human exchanges. These moments of connection are truly everything we humans seek when life is all boiled down to it's essence. I included the full audio, with the exception of minor edits of extremely personal information, as requested by my subjects. Many of these interviews are told "between the questions" - as is life. I hope you enjoy them as much as I do 3 XOO, Sagewolf

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The dirtiest secrets. That's what's happening here. Well...not entirely. Humans have always fascinated me. I'm most curious about what drives us creatively forward in our lives. When others share their stories with me, I arrive a little closer to knowing how many parallels we all share - how big this human family is, and that comforts me. I hope that by sharing these with you, you might know that too. I also hope that I'm able to present these in a way that you have a visceral experience - like you're there with us at the time and place of the interview - inside these beautiful human exchanges. These moments of connection are truly everything we humans seek when life is all boiled down to it's essence. I included the full audio, with the exception of minor edits of extremely personal information, as requested by my subjects. Many of these interviews are told "between the questions" - as is life. I hope you enjoy them as much as I do 3 XOO, Sagewolf

    Wendy Johnson: Medical Director at La Familia Medical Center / Fellow Holobiont / The Best Kind of Doctor

    Wendy Johnson: Medical Director at La Familia Medical Center / Fellow Holobiont / The Best Kind of Doctor

    @artivizm

    Upcoming book:
    The Ecology Cure: A Doctor’s Prescription for Healing the Earth and Ourselves

    The scene:
    We are in Chupadero, New Mexico sitting on Wendy’s large “portal” (porch) overlooking an orchard and the acequia (canal) that was built in 1876. Wendy and I just met in person for the first time. She is kind and straightforward and accommodating - and her eyes are full of joy. She has a vibrancy and energy about her that permeates the stories of her life adventures from politics to public health and Chile to Mozambique. Join us holobionts to learn about Wendy’s “place” and her adventurous journey toward it.

    Highlights:
    + New Mexico is in the middle of a 1200-year drought
    + The acequia used to have water from March through June (it’s dry now)
    + Humans forgot (300+ years ago) that they already are nature
    + Re-wilding feels like a privilege
    + We have lost our connection to place
    + Humans are part of an ecosystem and our bodies are also ecosystems
    + The Gaia theory: earth is a sentient organism and humans are the microbiome of the earth
    + Holobiont: all the symbiotic relationships in our bodies required for us to live
    + We can’t be healthy when earth’s ecosystem is unhealthy
    + Italian family, from Ohio, schooled at Ohio State and a year in Chile
    + Went to med school to do politics better
    + The people who are creating health policies are career politicians - not doctors
    + Doing a job to get the knowledge
    + Worked in Mozambique Africa helping scale up HIV treatment
    + Involved in the American Public Health Association
    + Worked with Doctors for Global Health - volunteerism, “liberation medicine” in marginalized countries, solidarity (not charity)
    + Jack Geiger - started the community health center movement, currently 1200 centers nationally
    + “The social determinants of health” - holistic considerations for what affects health i.e. stable housing, etc.
    + She became the Cleveland Medical Director for the City Health Dept.
    + Obtained her Masters in Public Health at Johns Hopkins while also holding that position (hero!)
    + Still (technically) a professor at the University of Washington Dept. of Global Health (Seattle)
    + What medical school teaches doctors addresses 20% of what we need to be healthy
    + If you’re going to be a good doctor, you’ve got to get involved in political issues
    + We share much of our DNA with trees
    + Being connected to PLACE and not reducing it to a resource for extraction
    + Creating a healthy society can be intuitive if you start from a place of revitalizing relationship
    + The ethic of and commitment to community
    + Buddhist-ish but not a club joiner
    + Walking away from a relationship if it means not becoming who you need to be
    + Women become invisible around 40 to 50 years old and up - in a great way
    + Thank you for connecting us Mariel Nanasi! (See her interview)

    A taste:
    “If you’re really connected to a place, if you’re really connected to a community of people - and of non-human people, then you’re going to have a whole different idea of what you’re willing to do to preserve it, [...] and not just see it as a resource for your pleasure, or something to be extracted.”

    Favorite sayings:
    “Medicine is a social science and politics is just medicine on a large scale.” 
    - Rudolph Virchow

    “I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve or save the world and a desire to enjoy or savor the world.  This makes it hard to plan the day.” 
    - EB White
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    • 1 hr 9 min
    Bridgett Thom: Rock Climber / Director of Store Operations, Whole Earth Provision Co. / Solid Sister

    Bridgett Thom: Rock Climber / Director of Store Operations, Whole Earth Provision Co. / Solid Sister

    @pidge1000

    The scene:
    We are in Austin, Texas sitting in the upstairs lounge of Bridgett’s climbing gym watching a guy get at it on a stairclimber while we pour our guts out to each other. We just met. Our connector knew we’d get on like this. A rare and wonderful encounter for sure. Bridgett is ripped, but in a dainty way - I’m still trying to get shoulders like hers. Her spirit and tenacity are inspiring, her humor eases, and her love everyone goal is noble. Join us as we climb adventurously up, down, and through life together like it’s not the first time.

    Highlights:
    + Exploring the world through your body
    + KINDNESS
    + “We all came here madly in love with one another”
    + You are me living another life
    + Resentment and anger are “low vibes”
    + Book: Letting Go - The Pathway of Surrender - David R. Hawkins
    + All feelings and emotions have a vibration
    + Learning boundaries
    + It’s a bummer when cute people can’t love well
    + You better come at me courageously
    + “F**k yeah! energy” - the only thing we should make time for
    + Fave new term: “meat machine” (the body)
    + Our body pains are notifying us of emotional stressors
    + Somatic healing for our nervous system
    + Active recovery with Wim Hof and ice baths
    + “No sad stories”
    + Using ice baths to reset your nervous system
    + Ayahuasca ceremonies
    + Psilocybin for emotional release
    + Forming an outdoor mask-less park workout group…during covid
    + Saying I LOVE YOU - and what it means to others
    + Your mom not saying she loves you until the end of her life
    + Figuring out your daddy issues
    + Love is staying curious
    + Being an operator - getting shit done
    + We want men to show up as men and stand in their own power
    + Needing to be in control
    + Running away from an abusive relationship
    + Choosing to be the primary breadwinner to prevent abuse of power
    + Having a high tolerance for failure (makes you a good climber)
    + Dating attachment-avoidant men
    + “Nothing is so addicting as something that almost works” - Gabor Maté
    + Thank you @shanedante for introducing us!
    + Traveling the world climbing
    + Just wanting a toaster oven and a couch
    + Sharing the same mission as the co. you work for
    + “Integrity is not cheap”
    + Austin born and raised
    + Coyote the trickster
    + Starting a women’s commune…in Kentucky…possibly someday
    + Motherhood makes you softer, and stronger
    + Gracefully navigating failure, struggling with impulse control
    + Being sort-of good at a lot of things
    + “You weren’t born typical” - and keep doing you
    + The art can’t go up until we heal and we can commit
    + It’s easy to love everyone if you give them a chance
    + We are enough as we are
    + Learning to listen to our nervous system
    + Taking 10 hits of acid and learning to make better choices
    + Climbing is calculated risk
    + Planning to live no longer than about 70 years (unless the stem cells work)
    + “A dumpster fire in a hurricane”
    + Learning to get intimacy non-sexually
    + Growing your f**k yeah! circle
    + Not having to be the special snowflake

    A taste:
    “Why do we prioritize and celebrate relationship when it’s like friendship? Friendships are often not based on sexual attraction or raising kids or financial, it’s just two people that are like, ‘Hey I kinda like you and we’re gonna continue to do stuff together’…that’s kind of beautiful.”

    Favorite saying:
    “Failure is just new information.”
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    • 1 hr 44 min
    Gregory Sellers: Ex-Monk / Super Mr. Mom / Zen Skater

    Gregory Sellers: Ex-Monk / Super Mr. Mom / Zen Skater

    @gjsellers

    The scene:
    We are in Santa Fe, New Mexico in the dining room/greenhouse of Gregory’s home for an off-chance, last-minute interview opportunity that almost didn’t happen due to a possible veterinary appointment and a childcare snafu.  But, we made it happen!  Gregory tried despite it all and I was ready and willing whenever he pulled the cord.  These are my favorite kind of interview because they end up being full of discovery, surprises, and delight by all participants - including little ones.  Join us for a rich conversation about leaving the world of a Zen monk for the world of a Zen working dad.

    Highlights:
    + From skateboarding in PA to meditating in NY and Japan
    + Spent 7 years in Japan in a Zen Buddhist monastery (age 22-27)
    + Ordained as a monk in ’99, left the monastery in ’06
    + Relocating to NM to build a Zen temple
    + From monk to partner to father
    + Fatherhood as THE training just as being a Zen monk was the training
    + Charlie (2) and Tobias (1) join us (with a banana snack)
    + The REAL life of caring for toddlers…while doing an interview
    + Becoming a father at 46
    + Ginger Snaps - an appropriate dad snack
    + Anyone in a monastery wants an “out”
    + There is no “out” from parenthood
    + Children as teachers
    + The rarity of being self-possessed
    + How to live a pure, authentic, high-quality life from the essence of who we are
    + The limitation of words in describing the hugeness of our life’s pursuit
    + The inquiry of how to live the highest quality lives we can, exactly as we are
    + Go back to the source and get real
    + Nothing is wrong - but we fear that it is
    + Pushing yourself into a very small tight box
    + Learning to silence our inner critic
    + Courage, fearlessness, and transparency
    + Saying yes! - spontaneity takes courage
    + Making Zen your own and calling it a practice
    + Being a genius master at blocking yourself from the truth
    + Your work is right in front of you - wherever you go, there you are
    + We don’t get to flake out on life if we want a rewarding one
    + The one thing you can’t [afford to] screw up with your kids is being unconditionally loving with them
    + We are not our children’s choices
    + Fish don’t see water in the same way humans don’t see energy
    + Accepting someone exactly as they are - non-judgement
    + The goal of “just one day sooner”
    + “There’s no salesmanship in truth”
    + “If I light up me, I light up you”
    + We don’t have to get anyone to change
    + Being an extroverted introvert - outgoing AND shy
    + Learning to just be reasonable
    + Solo retreats are community supported also
    + There is no separation between an individual and their community
    + Reciprocircle - our newly made-up word
    + Everything’s gonna be ok
    + Love the things you’re doing - don’t check out

    A taste:
    “That’s what love is - is accepting people, appreciating people exactly as they are, exactly how they are.”

    Favorite saying:
    “Pop Art is to love things.” 
    - spoken by Andy Warhol in response to being asked, “What is Pop Art?”
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    • 1 hr 42 min
    Noelle Graney: Attorney / Bass Player, Vocalist, and Drummer / Sit-down Comedienne

    Noelle Graney: Attorney / Bass Player, Vocalist, and Drummer / Sit-down Comedienne

    Band: City of my Death (on bandcamp)
    @cityofmydeath

    The scene:
    We are in SE Albuquerque New Mexico in Noelle’s “home office”, which is a cute apartment housing serious law things, a bass guitar, and a bunch of green plants. This is our first time meeting in person, after having only texted to arrange a time to meet. I feel so blessed to have been introduced to Noelle and that she agreed to meet with me on the fly. She is a true gem of a woman - humbly super intelligent, funnier than f**k, and inspiringly adventurous in her life pursuits.  Join us for unexpected agreeable surprises.

    Highlights:
    + Learning to play the bass because you need a bassist
    + The doing of social media
    + New band: City of my Death
    + Listen to their music on bandcamp
    + Member of the “Mutual Admiration Society” (see Cynthia Cook’s interview)
    + OG drummer and vocalist, new bass player
    + Husband is a full-time musician
    + Moved to Albuquerque to go to law school
    + Represents tribes and tribal entities
    + Attended Cal Berkeley
    + Moved to NM from CA (bay area) 20 yrs ago
    + Intentionally moved away from “the city”
    + Originally from Ohio
    + The same qualities that bring success can also be a hindrance
    + Finishing things is important
    + Having a decent sense of humor is valuable
    + Noelle earns badges for: Persistence, Musicianship, and Humor
    + Arguably not too old to be playing rock and roll
    + Community has become more music-oriented
    + Making friends as a grown-up is challenging
    + Does anyone else have trouble watching a 2-hour movie these days? (us too)
    + Being an attorney can make one too comfortable with disagreement
    + Being perceived as “aggressive” when you don’t agree with others (as a woman)
    + Dear younger self: please don’t worry so much
    + The battle with self-consciousness

    A taste:
    “I think I just always had some confidence that I could do what I needed to do but to be fair I’ve had also all kinds of advantages in life so I know that that isn’t so much some inherent quality as probably whatever advantages I was lucky enough to have.”

    Favorite saying:
    “Expect agreeable surprises.”
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    • 1 hr 5 min
    Alexo Wandael a.k.a. Alessandro Cacopardo: Director / Filmmaker / Photographer / Good Looking Italian

    Alexo Wandael a.k.a. Alessandro Cacopardo: Director / Filmmaker / Photographer / Good Looking Italian

    wandael.com
    alexowandael.com
    italiany.us
    @wandael73

    The scene:
    We are in Venice Beach, CA at Alexo’s home just off Abbott Kinney around 4pm. The light is getting lower and more golden. The way the sun is backlighting the curtains inside his living room is almost surreal: glowing 60’s pattern and color - a kaleidoscope of hot pink, green, brown, and orange. Alexo and I were match-made by instagram. We have a mutual friend in common and it suggested us to each other. I discover through our interview that we have quite a lot in common. Creepy to think the algorithm is teaching itself about human connection… The outcome: a lovely long interview of a budding friendship between two lone wolves.

    Highlights:
    + Italian born
    + Lived in Berlin
    + First came to the US in 1999
    + Was an architect for 11 years
    + Was a fashion photographer
    + Alexo loves cowboys and westerns and pirates
    + His parents fell in love when they were 17 and 19
    + He was raised by his maternal grandmother
    + Practicing an art and making an art are often different
    + “Commercial” “success” is typically based on “who you know”
    + Began portrait photography while still an architect
    + Creating a magic connection with your subject
    + Human connection in art vs. product-driven art
    + Working with multiple exposures and layers
    + Worked with Vogue Italia and Elle Russia
    + Fine Art Photography
    + Loving to visit a city, and then leave
    + Finding balance with people/self/nature
    + Having deeper relationships
    + All Italians ride scooters and are good-looking ;)
    + The importance of creating social communities
    + The journey from architecture to photography
    + Embracing nuances and imperfection
    + Foreseeing the failure and doing it anyway
    + Bucket list item: traveling the US by train
    + Being kind AND opinionated (stubborn)
    + Drawing the line at someone harming another
    + In the end, our journey is our own
    + The community required to make a film
    + What inspired his first film: A Woman Makes a Plan
    + About his second film: Tomato Soup in Skid Row
    + Skid row is like a war zone in Afghanistan
    + Only 30% of homeless are from drug addiction or mental health issues
    + Homelessness is a systemic problem…of the US
    + Stay curious and ask WHY
    + Motorcycle stories
    + The desert is the ultimate metaphor for justice

    A taste:
    “Artists..they are not diplomats.  They should be the ones saying something loud, even if it’s going to hurt someone else, but at least you’re starting to make people think about or talk about it.  I don’t say that I’m the right one.  But at least let’s wake up from all the selfie and stuff.  Let’s talk about something more serious just for once.”

    Favorite saying:
    "Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction.” - Francis Picabia
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    • 2 hr 51 min
    Megan Campagnolo: Small Business Badass, Entrepreneur, Maker of the Coolest Objects, Ceramicist

    Megan Campagnolo: Small Business Badass, Entrepreneur, Maker of the Coolest Objects, Ceramicist

    @camarocrybaby 
    @rosehoundapparel
    rosehoundapparel.com  

    The scene:
    We are in Manchaca, Texas at Blaze Foley’s gravesite sitting on a Mexican blanket having a fruit picnic and drinking Topo Chicos.  We are playing Blaze’s songs in dedication and memoriam to him and we are mostly alone, with the exception of Longhorns in the field next to us.  It’s even nicer than a peaceful park, which is strange to say in a graveyard.  Join us and Blaze for a sun-filled evening sharing stories like old friends.

    Highlights:
    + Founder and Owner of Rosehound Apparel
    + Degree in Fashion Design
    + Being a Canadian from Toronto, moonlighting in Austin, TX
    + Thriving under pressure
    + If you want something bad enough, you’ll make it happen
    + The importance of branding
    + Starting out with embroidery, patches, and pins
    + Blowing up at Urban Outfitters and Zara
    + Pop-ups in Japan, London, New York, LA, Vegas…
    + Selling in the under $20 pricepoint
    + Missing making with your hands
    + The appeal of imperfectly made things
    + Buying your own kiln when covid shut down studios
    + Doing something yourself when you can’t find someone to do it
    + Screen-printing mirrors
    + The satisfaction of putting your work online and having positive response
    + Not meeting the demand and being more exclusive
    + Interning students from your university
    + Making and selling through FSG (Fine Southern Gentlemen) in Austin
    + Ceramics: ashtrays, pipes of various shapes
    + Moving to Austin in a 200 sq ft silver 1952 Spartan trailer
    + Renovating an old trailer and making it your new first home
    + Thriving in “non-essential” talents
    + Why Austin (and not Los Angeles)?
    + The importance of friends and family and ride-or-dies
    + Tenacity, impulse, time management, resourcefulness
    + Learning to make your art come first
    + Using your art as relationship therapy
    + Knowing you will always be ok
    + Being inspired by other artists, not threatened
    + Being an entrepreneur frees you from constraint
    + The Id and the Super-ego see-saw (Carl Jung)
    + Traveling 30 states in a camper van
    + Learning low maintenance through travel
    + You create opportunities (they don’t find you)
    + You might think you want a mullet, but you really want a Francoise Hardy
    + Penis pipes and penis waffles

    A taste:
    “People who shoplift aren’t afraid to take what they want.”

    “[I’m] definitely freed from a lot of structured thinking. I’m extremely independent. I know that I can make money out of my own shit. I don’t have to worry about a paycheck. I can put things off and I can work harder and I can make more money and I believe that I am able to do that.”

    Favorite saying:
    “Tough times never last, only tough people last.”
    “Radical acceptance.”
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    • 1 hr 4 min

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