Scaling Clean

Tigercomm

Scaling Clean is the podcast for renewable energy leaders, investors, and advisors. Think of this as a cross between NPR's "How I Built This" and The New York Times' "Corner Office." Host Melissa Baldwin interviews CEOs, founders, and executives across solar, wind, storage, EVs, and more. Guests share founder journeys and insights on fundraising, M&A, retention, marketing, and hard-earned lessons on building resilient, profitable companies in the clean economy. Produced by Clare Quirin and powered by Tigercomm, the leading U.S. cleantech communications firm.

  1. 11/04/2025

    Episode 51: Akshay Sagar

    On the latest episode of Scaling Clean, I sat down with a leader who built his career in oil and gas with companies like Schlumberger and Halliburton. Akshay Sagar is now the CEO of the world’s largest solar O&M provider, NovaSource Power, managing more than 30 GW of solar and storage projects worldwide. I love Akshay’s advice about focusing on people and not being intimidated when people around you bring great ideas. Here are three big takeaways from our conversation: 🔹 Great leadership starts with people, not assets. Akshay says every organization is made up of two things: “people and steel,” and steel can always be replaced. The true differentiator is talent. Surround yourself with people more talented than you are, invest in them, and never be intimidated by their ideas. 🔹 Turnarounds demand culture, creativity, and accountability. Having managed three major corporate turnarounds, Akshay insists that workplace culture outweighs strategy. Success comes from setting shared values - ownership, discipline, urgency, accountability, and austerity - and adapting your business structure to fit the moment rather than copying someone else’s model. 🔹 Focus is a superpower. Instead of chasing every new opportunity, focus on what your business does best. Expanding too far can pull attention away from your core strengths. Most of us think we can do it all, but lasting success often comes from going deeper, not wider. Identify the distractions, and have the discipline to say no.

    34 min
  2. 10/30/2025

    Episode 50: Jacob Susman

    On the latest episode of Scaling Clean, I got to interview a man who’s navigated not one, but two successful exits. Jacob Susman is the Senior VP of Development at top-tier project development company Electric Hydrogen, which recently acquired his green hydrogen company, Ambient Fuels. Jacob unpacked what it takes to build, grow, and successfully sell a clean energy company. Here are three big takeaways from our conversation: 🔹 Start building relationships long before you need them. Jacob’s path to multiple successful exits was paved by years of relationship-building. He served on several boards, forming lasting relationships across the sector. Those connections later became essential in opening doors to partnerships and acquisitions. 🔹 Communication in tough times should be clear, quick, honest, and direct. After 25 years in clean energy startups, Jacob has learned that communication can make or break a team. He’s led through crises, market swings, and tough personnel calls, and says the key is to communicate clearly and quickly. When hard news hits, be honest and direct. “How you comport yourself in these moments is going to be telling about your long-term reputation around the sector.” 🔹 Know when to say no. Early in his career, Jacob’s team pushed through a small 10 MW wind project that nearly burned them out. Just because something can be done doesn’t mean it should be. Sometimes the smartest move is to stop, reallocate people to higher purposes, and focus on projects that advance your real strategy. In fast-growing sectors like green hydrogen, discipline is a superpower.

    32 min
  3. Episode 48: Thomas Jam Pedersen

    09/23/2025

    Episode 48: Thomas Jam Pedersen

    Thomas Jam Pedersen is my latest Scaling Clean podcast guest. Thomas Jam Pedersen, the CEO of Danish startup Copenhagen Atomics, is developing compact molten salt reactors fueled by recycled nuclear waste and thorium for greater efficiency and scalability. What’s interesting about this tech is its potential to address long-term radioactive waste, reducing storage time requirements from 100,000 years to ~300 years.  Here are the big three points:  🔹 Energy drives prosperity:  Every product we buy uses energy. 200 years ago, humans consumed significantly less energy. Today, it's about a hundred times more per person in the Western world. We are hungry for more energy because it's fundamental to prosperity. In the next decade, Thomas believes people globally will use 10x as much energy as today, which will strain global energy production. The only solution is generating a huge amount of energy. Countries like China and India are already realizing they need to produce everything: coal, oil, gas, wind, solar, and fusion. They want to build as much as they can, as fast as possible. 🔹 The challenge of starting in Europe: A decade of economic stagnation and resistance to new tech made Europe a tough launchpad.  In Europe, the focus is still on cutting energy consumption. However, I Thomas believes this position will change in the next five years. 🔹 Fundraising for the long haul: Unlike software startups, nuclear ventures have timelines more like pharmaceuticals, spanning decades. To address the gap, Copenhagen Atomics built a revenue model from day one by selling test systems, reactor salts and lithium-6 and -7. They have a demo reactor planned for 2027 with projected revenues of $50M by 2028.

    37 min

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About

Scaling Clean is the podcast for renewable energy leaders, investors, and advisors. Think of this as a cross between NPR's "How I Built This" and The New York Times' "Corner Office." Host Melissa Baldwin interviews CEOs, founders, and executives across solar, wind, storage, EVs, and more. Guests share founder journeys and insights on fundraising, M&A, retention, marketing, and hard-earned lessons on building resilient, profitable companies in the clean economy. Produced by Clare Quirin and powered by Tigercomm, the leading U.S. cleantech communications firm.