Second Stage Podcast

Jason Crockett
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A podcast where we read, watch, and unpack plays that rarely appear in high school classrooms, but should. Each episode explores why a play is overlooked, what it offers in performance, and how it could reshape the canon for today's students secondstagepodcast.substack.com

Episodes

  1. 3D AGO

    S1E11: Frost/Nixon by Peter Morgan

    Join me and my friend Drew Haston and his mentor, Dr. Russ Witcher of Tennessee Tech University to reflect on what Frost/Nixon reveals about Nixon, about media, and about the strange ways history decides when a story is finally finished. Second Stage is a Free Zone Radio production. You can find it and our other podcast, With Honors, on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Also, throw some love at our brother podcast with Drew Haston, A Deadman’s Books. He’s on Spotify at This episode’s music features “Caught in the Middle” by Amarent and “Flea Bop” by Mr. Smith, available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial license This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit secondstagepodcast.substack.com

    1h 33m

  2. MAR 23

    S1E10: An Enemy of the People, adapted by Arthur Miller

    On its surface, An Enemy of the People is the story of a doctor who discovers that the town’s prized public baths are contaminated and dangerous, only to find that truth is far less welcome than he imagined. But beneath that premise is a drama about something even more unsettling: what will a community do when the facts threaten its money, its pride, its power, and the stories it tells about itself? This month's guest is Mark Creter, an acclaimed theater professor at Tennessee Tech University. He talks us through the social commentary of this play and how a theatrical work can speak to generations beyond its own time. Second Stage is a Free Zone Radio production. You can find it and our original podcast With Honors on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Also, throw some love at our brother podcast with Drew Haston, A Deadman’s Books. He’s on Spotify and Apple Podcasts as well. This episode’s music features “Caught in the Middle” by Amarent and “Flea Bop” by Mr. Smith, available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial license. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit secondstagepodcast.substack.com

    1h 21m

  3. FEB 23

    S1E9: Romeo & Juliet by William Shakespeare

    February is Valentine’s month, and Hannah and I sit down to re-evaluateWilliam Shakespeare’s classic Romeo & Juliet, a story eternal to ninth-grade English. It’s one of those texts that are ubiquitous in high school English. Everyone everywhere reads R&J, and somewhere in our collective consciousness, the two teens seem to represent the epitome of romantic love. But Shakespeare warns us from the prologue: this is a tragedy, not a roadmap for romance! So is R&J still relevant, or can we do better? This week we’re here not to dismiss Shakespeare, and not to blindly defend tradition, but to ask whether the tragedy of the Montagues and Capulets still belongs at center stage. Second Stage is a Free Zone Radio production. You can find it and our other podcast, With Honors on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Also, throw some love at our brotherly podcast with Coach Haston, A Deadman’s Books, on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, as well as Haston Curation. This episode’s music features “Caught in the Middle” by Amarent and “Flea Bop” by Mr. Smith, available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial license. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit secondstagepodcast.substack.com

    1h 30m

  4. JAN 16

    S1E8: A Streetcar Named Desire by Tennessee Williams

    It’s a new year, and that brings the promise of a new you. But are you able to leave your past self behind, move to a new city, and start a new life, all while still telling the same old lies, continuing the same old habits? The adage says, “You can run, but you can’t hide.” Not in the shadows of half-truths, not in the pretty paper lies. Sooner or later, that ugliness usually catches up to us. Tennessee Williams’s classic hit, A Streetcar Named Desire, landed to a thunderous half-hour of applause in its first showing, and it went on to become an American classic. It launched Marlon Brando to stardom. But where is Streetcar nowadays? It’s remembered for its sweaty sexuality and its grittiness. It features macho man Stanley Kowalski (with his bulging muscles and his pushy, bully attitude) forcing himself onto the lies told by his fragile sister-in-law, Blanche — and ultimately, forcing himself onto her. In the end, Blanche’s sister (Stanley’s wife) chooses not to believe her sister because it keeps the peace of her happy household lie. So, does Streetcar have any space in a 2026 America? Is it too racy, too gritty for current audiences? For parents who don’t want their kids reading such “smut” during junior or senior year? Is it at all socially relevant to appear on community theater stages? This week, Hannah comes back to discuss why this classic deserves a second spin, especially nowadays. Second Stage is a Free Zone Radio production. You can find our show alongside our other podcast, With Honors. Also, throw some love at our brother podcast with Coach Haston, A Deadman’s Books. You can find him at spots like as well as Haston Curation, on Spotify at This episode also features “Caught in the Middle” by Amarent and “Flea Bop” by Mr. Smith, available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial license. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit secondstagepodcast.substack.com

    1h 21m

  5. 12/20/2025

    S1E7: Waiting for Godot by Samuel Beckett

    It’s the end of the semester, and we teachers are exhausted, waiting for the week to end, hoping — hoping! — that Christmas Break will finally arrive like it was promised to. And yet somehow, it feels like it’s never going to get here. And we’re just waiting. Waiting. Stuck in this high school wasteland. Occasionally interrupted by intercoms and out-of-pocket freshmen wandering by. Samuel Beckett’s classic Waiting for Godot feels exactly like that. That life (exhausting and wearying as it can be) keeps on ticking by. Slugging you occasionally. Throwing rocks in your boot. Hitting you with sudden expenses, damages, problems, and offering no real relief except maybe the people you share this waiting with. Beckett hands over no answers, no prescribed moral of the story. He delivers an absurdist play and lets the two hobo protagonists Vladimir and Estragon do most of the talking for us. This week, I’m ending the year with my co-host Drew Haston (the Vladimir to my Estragon) by asking if this absurdist work has any room in the modern-day classroom. Second Stage is a Free Zone Radio production. You can find our show on Spotify alongside our other podcast, With Honors on Spotify: Apple Podcasts on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCweufFHJbylu4tR598SDj5w Also, throw some love at our brotherly podcast with Coach Haston, A Deadman’s Books. He’s on Spotify at Apple Podcasts as well as Haston Curation, on Spotify at This episode’s music features “Caught in the Middle” by Amarent and “Flea Bop” by Mr. Smith, available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial license. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit secondstagepodcast.substack.com

    1h 9m

  6. 12/20/2025

    S1E6: Long Day's Journey into Night by Eugene O'Neill

    In this episode, we vacation with the Tyrone family in their one-set, one-day, one-plot domestic tragedy. Eugene O’Neill’s Long Day’s Journey into Night delivers much of the traditional tragic play: personal flaws that drive us to make bad decisions, blindness that ignores the obvious warning signs, and a feeling of inevitable impotence and inability to change our circumstances. What it doesn’t deliver, though, is any of the expected relief tragedy should capitalize on: there’s no catharsis for our characters or for us in the audience. O’Neill wants us to spend a day in his shoes, living with his childhood family and witnessing the self-destructive nature of our own tendencies. For this journey, I’m bringing in a new co-host who has a great eye and a sensitive ear for just this kind of family dilemma. Second Stage is a Free Zone Radio production. You can find our show on Spotify alongside our other podcast, With Honors on Spotify: Apple Podcasts on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCweufFHJbylu4tR598SDj5w Also, throw some love at our brotherly podcast with Coach Haston, A Deadman’s Books. He’s on Spotify at Apple Podcasts as well as Haston Curation, on Spotify at This episode’s music features “Caught in the Middle” by Amarent and “Flea Bop” by Mr. Smith, available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial license. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit secondstagepodcast.substack.com

    1h 14m

  7. 11/29/2025

    S1E5: Equus by Peter Shaffer

    In this episode, Drew Haston returns with some psychotherapy. He and I take on Peter Shaffer’s controversial play Equus, a show that’s intense in a way that teachers rarely get to touch in the regular classroom. It’s strange, ambitious, some would say pretentious, and yet so full of earnest theatrical weight that we sometimes slipped into the sort of immature joking that happens when two tired teachers record on the edge of Thanksgiving break. Still, the play’s mix of psychological depth and raw spectacle gave us plenty to think about, even when we were trying not to laugh at how far it goes. This is the kind of text that forces you to sit with uncomfortable ideas, and talking through it reminded me that the work I do in this classroom is at its best when the conversation feels alive, even if it also feels a little ridiculous at times. Second Stage is a Free Zone Radio production. You can find our show on Spotify alongside our other podcast, With Honors on Spotify: and Apple Podcasts: and on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCweufFHJbylu4tR598SDj5w Also, throw some love at our brotherly podcast with Coach Haston, A Deadman’s Books. He’s on Spotify at and Apple Podcasts as well as Haston Curation, on Spotify at This episode’s music features “Caught in the Middle” by Amarent and “Flea Bop” by Mr. Smith, available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial license. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit secondstagepodcast.substack.com

    1h 26m

  8. 11/29/2025

    S1E4: Trifles by Susan Glaspell

    I love this time of year. The darker days in the evening, the cold, the need to draw together and warm ourselves. It gives us a chance to discuss the things that matter. In this episode, my former student Hannah Randolph and I step into Susan Glaspell’s Trifles, a small play that holds a surprising amount of weight once you slow down and appreciate the details. What begins as a simple crime scene turns into a study of how people decide which details matter and which ones they ignore, and how those choices reveal more about them than the case itself. It’s Thanksgiving week, and we recorded on a busy school day that felt like it might run away from us, but that made me all the more grateful. For the classes I have, for the chance to talk plays during the day, and for the break that’s about to start! It reminded me why this work matters and why voices that notice the overlooked corners often understand the world better than the people in charge of it. Second Stage is a Free Zone Radio production. You can find our show on Spotify alongside our other podcast, With Honors on Spotify: on Apple Podcasts: on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCweufFHJbylu4tR598SDj5w Also, throw some love at our brotherly podcast with Coach Haston, A Deadman’s Books. He’s on Spotify at and Apple Podcasts: as well as Haston Curation, on Spotify at This episode’s music features “Caught in the Middle” by Amarent and “Flea Bop” by Mr. Smith, available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial license. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit secondstagepodcast.substack.com

    56 min

  9. 11/17/2025

    S1E3: Our Town by Thornton Wilder

    If you could seal up a single day from your old hometown into a time capsule for a hundred years, what would it look like? For some folks, small-town life is not it. The kids I teach, plenty of them want out as soon as possible. But it’s also been my experience that plenty of them stay, and plenty of them that leave come back like swallows to Capistrano. Small Town, USA, isn’t perfect, but it isn’t always the dead zone people would make it out to be. It’s where our roots have crawled into the earth, reaching back for generations out of memory. It’s the ideal foundation. It’s the dream. And it’s the focus of Thornton Wilder’s classic play, Our Town. This week, Kristin Benson and I discuss what made it such a classic play, why it faded from our high school theaters, and why now may be the perfect time for its return. Second Stage is a Free Zone Radio production. You can find our show on Spotify alongside our other podcast, With Honors on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0881bUWWdgkBdGzHlPNToi?si=b510a0cd363a4320 on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/with-honors/id1797115480 on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCweufFHJbylu4tR598SDj5w Also, throw some love at our brotherly podcast with Coach Haston, A Deadman’s Books. He’s on Spotify at https://open.spotify.com/show/4HtulwbO10pOjV5hbdWOty?si=a23d92c90128476e and Apple Podcasts at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-deadmans-books/id1795582942 as well as Haston Curation, on Spotify at https://open.spotify.com/show/3O8GDUtqshbxFF7gU2FMwM?si=d15c2539fadd40fc This episode's music features “Caught in the Middle” by Amarent and “Flea Bop” by Mr. Smith, available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial license. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit secondstagepodcast.substack.com

    1 hr

  10. 09/26/2025

    S1E2: Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead by Tom Stoppard

    The world feels insane and more absurd every day. When I open the news, I’m hit again and again with scandal, affronts, chaos, ridiculous people in charge. When I open social media, I’m agog at the folks I associate with: “You really stand for this? You really want this in your life?! This is the kind of people you really are?!?” When I’m in the classroom, kids spit out gibberish like “Six seven!” or “He’s so aura’d right now, for real for real!!” and it can’t possibly be English they’re blabbering. How can this be the normal world we were all living in? When did things slide off the rails? Was it that election? Was it when they killed Harambe? Was there a point in time when we broke the universe and slid into the darkest timeline? Because everything — politics, social upheaval, pandemics, economic collapse, everything — everything since a certain point feels utterly absurd. And why, why, why can I not remember exactly when it happened? Am I just repeating the same mistakes over and again? Such is Tom Stoppard’s classic play Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead. This week, my co-host and I are exploring the play’s ridicule of the absurdity in the world through the lens of Shakespeare’s two side characters from Hamlet. Second Stage is a Free Zone Radio production. You can find our show on Spotify alongside our other podcast, With Honors on Spotify: on Apple Podcasts: on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCweufFHJbylu4tR598SDj5w Also, throw some love at our brotherly podcast with Coach Haston, A Deadman’s Books. He’s on Spotify at and Apple Podcasts at as well as Haston Curation, on Spotify at This episode also features “Caught in the Middle” by Amarent and “Flea Bop” by Mr. Smith, available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial license. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit secondstagepodcast.substack.com

    54 min

  11. 09/05/2025

    S1E1: Fences by August Wilson

    I was inspired to create this podcast by two, well three, main influences. One is, of course, my co-teacher, Drew Haston, who last year introduced me to the world of podcasting. The second, older influence was my college professor, Dr. Kurt Eisen at Tennessee Tech, who taught literature classes through the lens of plays. It was in his class that I first read this week’s play, and it stuck with me ever since. The third inspiration is my own selfish self. During the summer, when I’m driving or mowing for long periods of time, I want to listen to content that helps me learn and teach new works of literature in my upcoming classes. It can be hard to find recordings that walk you through the content in a real-world, intelligent way, let alone providing you angles for how to teach the work. I wanted to create a podcast for others (and myself) that would hit that angle. This week, we’re covering Fences. It’s not an unknown play, but I would be surprised to learn it was taught in a majority of high school classes nationwide. But it’s a celebrated play with award-winning actors! Why doesn’t this play reach more classrooms? Why should it? And what would you do to teach this play? Second Stage is a Free Zone Radio production. You can find our show on Spotify alongside our other podcast, With Honors on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0881bUWWdgkBdGzHlPNToi?si=1HS8tQGXRyOgn1h5bs2pTg on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/with-honors/id1797115480 on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCweufFHJbylu4tR598SDj5w Also, throw some love at our brotherly podcast with Coach Haston, A Deadman's Books. He's on Spotify at https://open.spotify.com/show/4HtulwbO10pOjV5hbdWOty?si=I5Tt07unQJWVhaFVsInP8A and Apple Podcasts at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-deadmans-books/id1795582942 as well as Haston Curation, on Spotify at https://open.spotify.com/show/3O8GDUtqshbxFF7gU2FMwM?si=b38ac16d08374671 This episode features excerpts from stage performances of Fences with James Earl Jones and Denzel Washington. You can view the recordings on YouTube at This episode also features "Caught in the Middle" by Amarent and "Flea Bop" by Mr. Smith, available under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial license. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit secondstagepodcast.substack.com

    1h 15m
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A podcast where we read, watch, and unpack plays that rarely appear in high school classrooms, but should. Each episode explores why a play is overlooked, what it offers in performance, and how it could reshape the canon for today's students secondstagepodcast.substack.com

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  • Creator
    Jason Crockett
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    11
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Jason Crockett
  • Show Website
    Second Stage Podcast