Loneliness is more deadly than smoking, and the man whose research proved it died of lung cancer. Touch starvation is not a figure of speech: oxytocin, the chemical that bonds a mother to a newborn, is released by skin on skin contact, and a society that has stopped touching each other is running short of it. This is Part 2 of the 23 July conversation. Part 1 was about ruling out the body before you diagnose the mind. This one is about the other half of the answer: community is not a nice extra on top of treatment, it is part of the treatment. Roger opens with two smokers. Gary Berntson was a neuropsychologist, John Cacioppo was a social psychologist, and their fields barely overlapped. They went out behind Townsend Hall by the loading dock to smoke together, started comparing their work, and that smoke break became the foundation of social neuroscience. Cacioppo went on to write the book on loneliness. He died of lung cancer. What we cover: Herd animals or pack animals, and which one we areOxytocin, why birth and breastfeeding release the most of it, and what skin on skin is actually doingPhotographs from 50 and 100 years ago: people leaning on each other, arms around each other, and when that stoppedWhy loneliness is more deadly than smoking, and the research behind that claimRobert Putnam's Bowling Alone, and what happened to the leagues, the lodges and the clubsEntrainment: why singing, rowing and marching in time with other people bonds them, and why doing it alone does notChicago O'Hare, a missed flight, and what fear smells likeThe study that swabbed fear sweat, put it under other people's noses in an fMRI, and watched their amygdalae light upThe question Roger asks himself: who am I hanging around with?Why AI cannot touch you, and the two things it will never provideChapters 00:00 We humans need other humans 01:50 Is community part of the cure? 02:39 Herd animals or pack animals 05:03 Two smokers behind Townsend Hall 06:35 The hormones, and the one that connects us 07:33 Skin on skin 09:51 We stopped touching each other 13:44 Loneliness is more deadly than smoking 14:52 What happened to community: Bowling Alone 15:32 Entrainment, and why doing things in time together bonds people 19:42 Chicago O'Hare, and what fear smells like 21:55 They swabbed fear sweat 26:32 Who am I hanging around with? 28:18 AI cannot touch you Second Thoughts, Episode 71. Part 2 of two, recorded 23 July 2026. Part 1 is Episode 70. Dr. Roger Hall is a business psychologist and executive coach. He trains leaders to monitor and manage their thinking. "Opinions expressed are not therapy or a constitute any professional relationship to anyone who watches or listens. For education and entertainment only." drrogerhall.com compassconsultation.com Send us Fan Mail Support the show Thank you for tuning in to this episode of Second Thoughts with Dr. Roger Hall! If you enjoyed today's insights, don't forget to subscribe for more content on leadership, productivity, and personal growth. Share this episode with friends, colleagues, or anyone who could benefit from these powerful strategies. 🎧 Listen & Subscribe: Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and all major platforms. 🌐 Connect with Dr. Hall: Visit drrogerhall.com for resources and more. 📧 Have a question? Submit it for a chance to be featured in a future episode! Follow me on socials: X - @DoctorRogerHall Facebook - @Roger Hall Instagram - @DoctorRogerHall Linkedin - @Dr Roger Hall Youtube - @DoctorRogerHall Rumble - @SecondThoughts **Opinions expressed are not therapy or a constitute any professional relationship to anyone who watches or listens. For education and entertainment only.
