Security Cocktail Hour

Joe Patti and Adam Roth

Security veterans Joe Patti and Adam Roth welcome a diverse lineup of cybersecurity and information security experts to share their insights at the virtual bar. From cutting edge topics like AI and Operational Technology (OT) to the realities of careers and mental health, you'll get the inside view of what's happening across the industry and what it's really like to work in these fields, from the people who do it every day. Reach us at feedback@securitycocktailhour.com or @SecCocktailHour on Twitter.

  1. FEB 23

    Breaking Vulnerability Management's 30-Year Logjam: Two Cyber Veterans Attack It With AI

    Sharon Isaaci and David Warshavski spent careers on the offensive side of cybersecurity — breaking into organizations, finding zero-days, and cleaning up after the breaches that followed at Sygnia, Israel's premier incident response firm. After hundreds of engagements, they kept finding the same thing on both sides of the wire: breaches happen not because vulnerabilities go undetected, but because they go unmanaged. Vulnerability management has been stuck for 30 years. More tools, more alerts, more dashboards — and vulnerability exploitation as a breach cause nearly tripled in 2024 alone. When ChatGPT arrived in late 2022, Sharon and David saw the missing piece: the organizational context that could fix the problem had always existed, scattered across Slack, email, wikis, and internal tools. GenAI finally made it possible to pull that together at scale. In this conversation, we get into how two practitioners who've spent careers attacking organizations are now applying that attacker's lens — automated with AI — to break open a field that's resisted change for decades. We cover why visibility was never the real problem, what context-driven prioritization actually looks like, and what it takes to mobilize the people who do the patching. This one is for practitioners who've lived the frustration. And for anyone watching AI get applied to a real, stubborn problem — not as a marketing claim, but as the thing that finally moves the needle. Follow us for more conversations with practitioners who've been in the trenches. 00:00 Intro & Guest Introductions 05:35 Vulnerability Management: Still a Problem 09:45 AI as a Security Solution, Not a Problem 15:47 Visibility is Easy; Context is Hard 29:46 Leveraging the Hacker Mindset 35:29 We Need Less Findings, Not More 42:39 We're in Exciting Times Website: https://securitycocktailhour.com Newsletter: https://securitycocktailhour.com/newsletter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/security-cocktail-hour Twitter/X: @SecCocktailHour Enjoyed this episode? Follow us and share with colleagues who'll enjoy honest discussions among security professionals.

    49 min
  2. FEB 3

    Securing Mars Rovers and Space Stations with NASA's Former CIO Renee Wynn

    What happens when your security perimeter extends to Mars—and MFA isn't an option? In this episode of the Security Cocktail Hour, we sit down with Renee Wynn, former CIO of NASA, to explore what cybersecurity looks like when traditional frameworks simply don't apply. Renee Wynn managed IT for some of humanity's most critical infrastructure: Mars rovers, the James Webb Space Telescope, the International Space Station. We cover the unique challenges of cybersecurity in the aerospace, defense and space fields—and what those constraints teach us about security thinking more broadly. Early in the discussion, Renee emphasizes: "We always have to make sure we don't have a failure of imagination when we're looking at these risk-based decisions." This is the kind of mindset shift that shapes great security leaders. We also explore how she navigated government oversight, built trust with federal auditors, and led through constraints that forced her to rethink everything. Whether you work in government, private sector, or dream of expanding your security career into new industries—this conversation will broaden how you think about what's possible. 00:00 Introduction & The Coolest Resume in Cybersecurity 00:51 No Multi-Factor Authentication on Mars: Securing Assets Beyond Earth 02:54 Navigating Oversight: How to Build Trust With Government Auditors 15:00 Failure of Imagination: Rethinking Risk Assessment in Extreme Environments 35:00 Leadership Lessons: Thinking Bigger in Security Website: https://securitycocktailhour.com Newsletter: https://securitycocktailhour.com/newsletter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/security-cocktail-hour Twitter/X: @SecCocktailHour Enjoyed this episode? Follow us and share with colleagues who'll enjoy honest discussions among security professionals.

    54 min
4.8
out of 5
5 Ratings

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Security veterans Joe Patti and Adam Roth welcome a diverse lineup of cybersecurity and information security experts to share their insights at the virtual bar. From cutting edge topics like AI and Operational Technology (OT) to the realities of careers and mental health, you'll get the inside view of what's happening across the industry and what it's really like to work in these fields, from the people who do it every day. Reach us at feedback@securitycocktailhour.com or @SecCocktailHour on Twitter.