Seiso Side-Up

Seiso, LLC.

Here we cut through the noise in cybersecurity. This isn’t a show about perfect frameworks or polished slide decks. It’s a place for honest conversations about security strategy, governance, and risk as they actually exist inside real organizations - messy, evolving, and deeply tied to how the business runs. Each episode explores what it really takes to build, operate, and sustain security programs that don’t get ignored, overcomplicated, or treated as a once-a-year exercise. We focus on clarity, ownership, and practical decision-making - especially for people early in their security careers or stepping into leadership for the first time. Seiso works with mid-sized, regulated organizations that need cybersecurity to function day-to-day - not just during audits or incidents. Our customers bring us in early, at the leadership level, because security decisions shape how the business grows, sells, and operates. We’re trusted as long-term operating partners, helping teams run, stabilize, and mature security programs over time. That practitioner-driven, real-world experience is what shapes every conversation on Side-Up.  

  1. APR 28

    Episode 19 - Hacklore and Friends

    The conversation explores the concept of 'hack lore' and its impact on cybersecurity, focusing on the disconnect between perceived security and actual security. It delves into the myths and misconceptions surrounding security, the role of AI in creating new hack lore, and the need to address the mundane aspects of security. The discussion also highlights the importance of holding companies accountable for customer security outcomes and the challenges of AI in cybersecurity. The conversation delves into the challenges of implementing AI and security in modern workflows, highlighting the need for a secure-by-design approach and the importance of understanding customer security outcomes. It also emphasizes the role of leadership in taking ownership of security and risk. Takeaways Hack lore: The conversation sheds light on the concept of 'hack lore' and its impact on cybersecurity, emphasizing the need to retire bad advice and focus on the basics.AI and Hack Lore: The emergence of AI in cybersecurity introduces new challenges and misconceptions, leading to the creation of new hack lore around AI security advice and frameworks. Secure-by-design approach is crucial for AI and cloud systemsLeadership must take ownership of security and risk Chapters 00:00 AI and Hack Lore: The New Frontier25:26 Security as an Afterthought in AI Implementation31:11 Cultural Perspective on Applying Security Basics to AI39:31 Secure by Design in Real-world AI Environments45:25 Ownership of Risk and Accountability50:53 Implementing Secure by Design Principles

    50 min

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Here we cut through the noise in cybersecurity. This isn’t a show about perfect frameworks or polished slide decks. It’s a place for honest conversations about security strategy, governance, and risk as they actually exist inside real organizations - messy, evolving, and deeply tied to how the business runs. Each episode explores what it really takes to build, operate, and sustain security programs that don’t get ignored, overcomplicated, or treated as a once-a-year exercise. We focus on clarity, ownership, and practical decision-making - especially for people early in their security careers or stepping into leadership for the first time. Seiso works with mid-sized, regulated organizations that need cybersecurity to function day-to-day - not just during audits or incidents. Our customers bring us in early, at the leadership level, because security decisions shape how the business grows, sells, and operates. We’re trusted as long-term operating partners, helping teams run, stabilize, and mature security programs over time. That practitioner-driven, real-world experience is what shapes every conversation on Side-Up.  

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