I appreciate this podcast and the vision behind it. The information and different viewpoints are not only interesting, but thought provoking. That said, the production value of it stinks. The folks behind the mics often talk over and interrupt each other. The actual room, where they record the podcast is not ideal either for the production value. A ton of echo and reverb, that it’s hard to listen to. When someone laughs or talks on top of someone else , which happens often, it hurts the ears.