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Discover the intersection of art, emerging tech and culture. Our podcast gives creators a voice, celebrating their freedom and innovation. Join us for conversations on digital evolution and the creative world shaping our future.

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  1. JAN 20 · VIDEO

    #11 - From Google to CryptoPunks: @NaughtalieStone

    In this episode, we engage in a fascinating conversation with Stone, who shares her unique journey from working at Google to becoming a pivotal figure in the NFT space, particularly with CryptoPunks. Stone discusses her early involvement in AI art and how it led her to explore NFTs, emphasizing the importance of community and the evolving nature of digital art. She reflects on her experiences at NFT NYC, the challenges of integrating traditional art with digital mediums, and the significance of CryptoPunks in the art canon. Stone also touches on the future of music and NFTs, highlighting the potential for disruption in the music industry and the need for innovative approaches to engage audiences. Chapters (00:00:00) - Stone in the Elevator(00:00:14) - How NFTs Started: The Crypto Art(00:04:14) - Melissa Benoist on CryptoPunks(00:08:46) - Jean Jacques on CryptoPunks(00:16:55) - In the Elevator With No Vision(00:18:01) - Philip Quine on Art Basel Miami(00:19:48) - A Long Form Collection on a Huge Table(00:21:29) - Crypto Punk: What's Next?(00:29:36) - On Art in the Digital Age(00:37:34) - Art Basel 2017: A Mixed Bag(00:40:04) - Nicholas on NFTs and the Music Industry(00:46:49) - Talking With the Node

    47 min
  2. #10 - Building and collecting with @TheFunnyGuys

    11/26/2025 · VIDEO

    #10 - Building and collecting with @TheFunnyGuys

    We delve into the evolution of TheFunnyGuys, the significance of digital ownership, and the onboarding experiences for new users in the crypto space. We discuss the rise of generative art and the challenges faced by artists and collectors in navigating the fragmented digital art ecosystem and how TheFunnyGuys wants to solve those with Raster. The conversation highlights the role of Raster in aggregating artist portfolios and improving user experience, while also exploring future trends in art and technology. Chapters (00:00:00) - Lorandum: My Journey Into Crypto & Art(00:07:06) - How to Sell Generative Art and Financially(00:08:16) - In the Elevator With Generative Art(00:16:04) - Raster for Art Collectors: The First Place to Sell their(00:20:05) - Raster vs. OpenSea: The Art Market(00:28:03) - Raster Art: No TikTok Feed for Digital Art(00:28:57) - Raster Art: Technology and the Future(00:37:07) - Tesla Artists: Too High a Royalties(00:38:54) - Raster: The Future of Digital Art(00:43:28) - A Question for Jean Jacques

    45 min
  3. #9 - Phantom Scribbler on Gambling and Collecting

    11/14/2025 · VIDEO

    #9 - Phantom Scribbler on Gambling and Collecting

    In this conversation, Phantom shares his journey from being a gambler in the crypto space to becoming an art collector, discussing the risks and opportunities within DeFi and the implications of using NFTs as collateral. The dialogue also touches on the potential for institutional investment in digital art, the challenges of smart contract risks, and the future of digital galleries. Throughout the conversation, they reflect on the accountability of artists and collectors in a rapidly changing market, the perception of generative art, and the evolving concept of digital ownership. Chapters (00:00:00) - Gambling in the Art World(00:01:20) - Gambling on DEFI and NFTs(00:03:23) - Gandhi: A Good Alternative to Traditional Finance(00:07:04) - Is Gandhi the Future of Art Funds?(00:10:57) - NFT collateral: Should Artists Use It?(00:14:52) - Gondi: The New Gallery Model(00:21:22) - "Pointing fingers at fellas"(00:22:44) - Never Sell(00:27:12) - NFTs: The Parabolic Days Are Over(00:33:40) - Tune: A Social Network for Bitcoins(00:34:30) - Jean Jacques on His Journey Into Crypto(00:41:36) - Will Anyone Buy My Bag?(00:47:54) - Phantom Scribbler

    51 min
  4. #8 - Micol Ap on Art, Building and Curating

    10/29/2025 · VIDEO

    #8 - Micol Ap on Art, Building and Curating

    In this conversation, Micol shares her journey into the world of digital art and crypto, detailing her initial experiences with Ethereum and her passion for collecting art. She discusses the evolution of her project, Vertical Crypto, from a passion project to a business, highlighting the importance of artist support and sustainability. Micol reflects on the impact of the Vertical Crypto Residency and the challenges of navigating the art market dynamics, especially in the context of social media and market corrections. She also shares insights on upcoming events and her ongoing projects in the digital art space.   Chapters (00:00:00) - Mikol: Getting Started in Crypto(00:01:57) - Working on a digital canvas(00:03:23) - What was a point when you decided to do this full-time(00:05:57) - The Art of LinkedIn(00:08:31) - The Future of the London residency(00:13:30) - The Intensive Residency(00:14:58) - Working in a Challenging World(00:18:26) - Social Media and the Digital Art Market(00:22:41) - The Art of Mario Klingerman(00:24:53) - Should You Buy Contemporary or Historical Work?(00:27:21) - Art Prices in the Contemporary World(00:33:15) - Harold Cohen's Femgen exhibition in London and Frieze(00:38:21) - Art Basel 2018: Digital Contemporary Art(00:40:23) - milo on crypto and art

    41 min
  5. #7 - The Art & Finance Legend: Asher Edelman

    10/14/2025 · VIDEO

    #7 - The Art & Finance Legend: Asher Edelman

    Asher Edelmann known for influencing the Gordon Gekko character in the movie Wall Street. In this conversation, Asher reflects on his journey from Wall Street to becoming a prominent art collector and educator. We discuss the key elements of his financial career, his passion for art, and the evolution of the art market. The conversation also touches on the impact of technology, particularly blockchain, on art investment and collecting, as well as the changing dynamics of galleries and the future of art in a digital age. Chapters (00:00:00) - Asher Edelman: From Wall Street to Art World Oracle(00:02:04) - Working on Wall Street and Now...(00:05:12) - Coming soon: The Art of Wall Street(00:06:27) - In the Elevator With Lawrence Berkeley(00:07:28) - A Taste of Sun Tzu(00:08:29) - The Secret Life of Collecting(00:10:50) - Talking about collecting art at 65(00:18:16) - Living on Wall Street in Switzerland(00:21:58) - Inventing the Lease(00:31:08) - The Gallerist-(00:37:25) - On Generative Art NFTs(00:41:35) - Sotheby's Executive Interview(00:49:08) - In the Elevator With Crypto Stars(00:52:54) - What are the qualifications of an artist for a crypto investment?

    59 min
  6. #6 - Borrowing against your digital art with Burga

    09/03/2025 · VIDEO

    #6 - Borrowing against your digital art with Burga

    In this discussion, Burga, co-founder of Gondi, introduces the platform's innovative approach to Lombard loans, enabling users to leverage their digital art as collateral for borrowing. He details the mechanics of digital art lending, highlighting its advantages over traditional art markets, such as increased accessibility and liquidity. Burga also explores the unique appeal of digital art and the expansive growth potential within the NFT market. Additionally, he unveils Gondi V3’s enhanced features, including a seamless buy-sell marketplace, which streamlines transactions for collectors and investors. Looking ahead, Burga shares his vision for the future of digital art and lending, emphasizing the importance of strategic patience and long-term thinking in navigating this dynamic and evolving landscape. Chapters (00:00:00) - Inventing Condi: A HFT and an Economist(00:02:23) - Why Digital Art Is a Good Investment(00:05:03) - Losses on Digital Art: Can You Get a Lombard(00:07:54) - Using Your Work as a Collateral(00:08:51) - Gondi Lending: Underwriting, Appraisal(00:10:16) - Does the NFT Lending Market Need Professional Lenders?(00:20:38) - Does Gandi Allow Fractional Ownership?(00:23:52) - Gandhi Launches Buy Sell Marketplace(00:25:17) - Does Web3 Have a Realized Yield?(00:26:59) - Gondi's Future(00:28:10) - Gandhi.com Adds Broker Fees and Royalties to(00:29:52) - Gondi: The Full Stack Liquidity for Digital Art(00:33:37) - Will Digital Art Grow Faster Than Physical?(00:41:06) - Gondi xyz: No Funding Round(00:42:29) - Loan Lending in the Digital Art Market(00:44:53) - Dealing with Art in a Financial World

    46 min
  7. #5 - Building Fxhash with Ciphrd

    08/01/2025 · VIDEO

    #5 - Building Fxhash with Ciphrd

    In this conversation, Ciphrd, the founder of Fxhash, shares his journey from web development to creating an art marketplace on the blockchain. He discusses the challenges faced in building Fxhash, including issues of curation, governance on the Tezos blockchain, and the complexities of running an art marketplace amidst market fluctuations. Ciphrd emphasizes the importance of community engagement and open curation, while also addressing the financial realities of managing a crypto treasury. The conversation explores the transition from Tezos to the Base blockchain, the introduction of new protocols for artists, and the future of generative art in the blockchain space. Chapters (00:00:00) - Send It This Crazy: Alex Seifert(00:00:28) - Fx(00:03:09) - Foundation work on Lost Cipher Wallet(00:03:56) - In the Elevator With Kendrick(00:05:24) - Fx. Governance on Tezos(00:07:58) - Tezos Art Marketplace's Transition to the Base Blockchain(00:16:04) - How to manage crypto treasury in a startup(00:19:30) - Do You Have Any Other Interests Outside Crypto?(00:22:03) - Fixash on the Future of Art Coins(00:31:18) - Inventing OpenForm: The Art of Coinage(00:35:04) - Artists on Tezos: What It Means for the Future(00:42:59) - Tezos' decision to maintain the system

    46 min
  8. #4 - The History of Digital Art with Georg Bak

    07/21/2025 · VIDEO

    #4 - The History of Digital Art with Georg Bak

    In this conversation, we explore with Georg Bak the evolution of generative photography and the intersection of AI art, and the historical context of digital art. They discuss the significance of collecting digital art, the role of institutions, and the passion versus investment dynamic in the art market. Georg shares insights on the pioneers of AI art and the importance of understanding the historical significance of digital artworks. The conversation culminates in a discussion about the future of digital art and blockchain technology, emphasizing the need for deeper engagement and understanding in the art community. Chapters (00:00:00) - The Intersection of Art and Tech(00:01:29) - Are AI Art Collections worth collecting?(00:08:44) - What is historical in the history of digital art?(00:16:30) - Paint Box: The Art of the Computer(00:22:33) - Charles Chewy and the Paint Box(00:25:33) - Does Digital Art Need a Museum?(00:28:19) - The Future of Art in the Blockchain World(00:34:50) - What do you think is more fun, the traditional art market or(00:40:55) - The Golden Age of Blockchain Art and AI

    46 min
  9. #3 - Exploring a new medium with Mimi and Leander

    06/19/2025 · VIDEO

    #3 - Exploring a new medium with Mimi and Leander

    In this conversation, the hosts explore blockchain and generative art, and the challenges faced in the evolving art market. They discuss the role of social media in promoting artists and the complexities of managing a gallery in a digital age. The conversation highlights the need for artists to adapt to new technologies while navigating traditional art world dynamics.   Chapters (00:00:00) - Smart Contract: Art and Technology(00:07:55) - What is the future of art in blockchain?(00:09:47) - What do you think about the future of platforms(00:13:35) - Why a Website is essential for artists(00:14:33) - Leander's Collectors: The Blockchain(00:20:15) - Kevin Abosh: Crypto Community Eats Itself(00:24:34) - Jean Jacques on His Love Letter(00:27:22) - Unexpected Challenges of Working With Generative Art(00:31:58) - What is the most exciting thing currently happening in the art world?(00:36:03) - No one has digital art on their walls(00:37:43) - The Role of Social Media in Art(00:39:17) - "Social Media Is a Necessary Evil"(00:45:12) - Do We Even Care About The Traditional Art World?(00:48:57) - Infinite Garden: The Exhibition and the Tokens

    50 min
  10. #2 - Art and other stuff with Kenny Schachter

    05/28/2025 · VIDEO

    #2 - Art and other stuff with Kenny Schachter

    Chapters (00:00:00) - How to Get Out of the Art World(00:07:06) - Marriage of Traditional Art and Crypto(00:16:32) - When Your Personal Space Is Being Hacked(00:17:05) - The Outsiders: Digital Art(00:23:36) - What do you think most digital art collectors don't get about the(00:31:25) - The Future of Non-Traditional Art(00:33:18) - Jean Jacques on Art and the Future(00:40:23) - The Future of Art in Crypto(00:42:29) - John Jack on Art and Collectors

    50 min
  11. #1 - The NODE Foundation with Phil

    04/30/2025 · VIDEO

    #1 - The NODE Foundation with Phil

    In this conversation, Phil from the NODE Foundation discusses the vision and mission of the foundation, emphasizing the importance of community, education, and innovative presentation in the digital art space. He reflects on his journey from Bright Moments to NODE, the shift from traditional art institutions to a network model, and the challenges and opportunities in onboarding new users to digital art. The discussion also touches on the emotional aspects of art collecting and the need for a cultural backbone in the rapidly evolving technological landscape.

    53 min
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Discover the intersection of art, emerging tech and culture. Our podcast gives creators a voice, celebrating their freedom and innovation. Join us for conversations on digital evolution and the creative world shaping our future.

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  • Creator
    Eko33 and Niclas Genovese
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    11
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