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What happens when a theatre-maker and an opera singer throw caution to the wind to see what wonderlands might reveal themselves in a creative process fuelled by their never-say-die passion? "In The Process of Making" documents Dave and Jon’s 5-year journey as they stumble through brilliant insights and crushing doubts, unexpected breakthroughs and stubborn blockages — all the while remaining open and vulnerable to their exasperation and joy! It's a creative odyssey of unexpected twists and delightful surprises that takes us to the heart of what creativity looks and feels like …. the highs and lows; the dream and the nightmare.

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  1. 2025. 04. 01.

    "In the Process of Making" - Prelude: Why Listen?

    "Why Listen?" is a warm invitation from creator Dave Brown, introducing himself and the project and explaining why you might want to join him on his 14-episode creative journey. PLEASE CLICK ON THIS LINK TO RESPOND TO OUR FEEDBACK QUESTIONS FOR OUR PRELUDE TO EPISODE 1 Please offer your feedback via these 7 multiple choice questions to help us improve and develop the podcast. (it takes less than 5 minutes to do)

    10분
  2. "In the Process of Making" Episode 1: Beginnings

    2025. 07. 06.

    "In the Process of Making" Episode 1: Beginnings

    This episode introduces the podcast's premise - two artists, Dave Brown and Jon Bode, embarking on a creative journey inspired by the number seven. It explores the origins of the project, introduces The PaperBoats' "Seven Creative Principles" and delves into the nature of creativity itself. The episode sets the stage for the quirky, introspective exploration of the creative process that will unfold over the series. PLEASE CLICK ON THIS LINK TO RESPOND TO OUR 7 FEEDBACK QUESTIONS FOR EPISODE 1 [Once you have submitted your feedback form, you’ll automatically become a member of our PREVIEW NETWORK and receive a link to the next episode of the podcast] As a PREVIEW NETWORK Member, you’ll: • Listen to episodes at your own pace (before they are launched publically) • Respond to 7-multiple-choice questions related to your podcast experience for each episode • Preview supporting content and materials • Become part of our creative community network Your insights will help us shape future episodes.

    24분
  3. "In the Process of Making" - Episode 2: Limitations

    2025. 08. 06.

    "In the Process of Making" - Episode 2: Limitations

    Diving deeper into their creative experiment, this episode explores the beginnings of Dave and Jon's collaboration and introduces the principles of "co-creation" and "limiting the palette" revealing how constraints can lead to unexpected innovations. The process of building modules from random content is described leading to the creation of Special Agent 7's story-song about the mysterious appearances of the "Tinsel Man". PLEASE CLICK THIS LINK TO RESPOND TO OUR 7 FEEDBACK QUESTIONS FOR EPISODE 2 [Once you have submitted your feedback form, you’ll automatically become a member of our PREVIEW NETWORK and receive a link to the next episode of the podcast] As a PREVIEW NETWORK Member, you’ll: • Listen to episodes at your own pace (before they are launched publically) • Respond to 7-multiple-choice questions related to your podcast experience for each episode • Preview supporting content and materials • Become part of our creative community network Your insights will help us shape future episodes.

    28분
  4. "In the Process of Making" - Episode 3: Wild Things

    2025. 09. 06.

    "In the Process of Making" - Episode 3: Wild Things

    Listeners are invited into the untamed wilderness of creativity where Dave discusses the danger of early censorship and the importance of protecting "ugly babies" - those awkward early creative ideas with hidden potential. Through Jon's satirical characters like Gordon Oliver and Paul McCartony, they demonstrate how embracing creative chaos leads to unexpected connections and happy accidents. PLEASE CLICK THIS LINK TO RESPOND TO OUR 7 FEEDBACK QUESTIONS FOR EPISODE 3 [Once you have submitted your feedback form, you’ll automatically become a member of our PREVIEW NETWORK and receive a link to the next episode of the podcast] As a PREVIEW NETWORK Member, you’ll: • Listen to episodes at your own pace (before they are launched publically) • Respond to 7-multiple-choice questions related to your podcast experience for each episode • Preview supporting content and materials • Become part of our creative community network Your insights will help us shape future episodes.

    28분
  5. "In the Process of Making" - Episode 4: Whimsy

    2025. 10. 06.

    "In the Process of Making" - Episode 4: Whimsy

    Through the continuing story of Paul McCartony and Gordon Oliver's culinary connection, Dave and Jon explore Seth Godin's "Purple Cow Theory" and the courage to stand out while being different. Dave digs into the crucial tension between whimsy and logic in creative processes, using the parable of Henry and Amy to illustrate how these seemingly opposing forces must work together in equal partnership. PLEASE CLICK ON THIS LINK TO RESPOND TO OUR 7 MULTIPLE CHOICE FEEDBACK QUESTIONS Your feedback will help us shape future episodes.

    27분
  6. "In the Process of Making" Episode 5: Twilight

    2025. 11. 06.

    "In the Process of Making" Episode 5: Twilight

    Episode FIVE explores the mysterious "liminal spaces" where creativity flourishes - those twilight moments between consciousness and dreaming where our "default mode network" makes unexpected connections. Through anecdotes about Paul McCartney's "Yesterday" (originally "Scrambled Eggs") and Dave's own creative epiphanies, the episode reveals how letting go of conscious control allows our unconscious mind to solve creative problems. PLEASE CLICK ON THIS LINK TO RESPOND TO OUR 7 FEEDBACK QUESTIONS [Once you have submitted your feedback form, you’ll automatically become a member of our PREVIEW NETWORK and receive a link to the next episode of the podcast] As a PREVIEW NETWORK Member, you’ll: • Listen to episodes at your own pace (before they are launched publically) • Respond to 7-multiple-choice questions related to your podcast experience for each episode • Preview supporting content and materials • Become part of our creative community network Your insights will help us shape future episodes.

    29분
  7. "In the Process of Making" Episode 6: Circuses

    2025. 12. 06.

    "In the Process of Making" Episode 6: Circuses

    Episode SIX introduces more eccentric characters to the Sevenwell Circus, including French tin foil artist Pierre Depardieu and operatic tenor Antonio Goldini, while exploring the nagging doubt that plagues creative endeavors. As Dave grapples with whether their "creative frolic" will ever amount to anything worthwhile, the story connections between the characters begin to emerge, revealing surprising intersections between the Tinsel Man, McCartony and Goldini. PLEASE CLICK THIS LINK TO RESPOND TO OUR 7 FEEDBACK QUESTIONS [Once you have submitted your feedback form, you’ll automatically become a member of our PREVIEW NETWORK and receive a link to the next episode of the podcast] As a PREVIEW NETWORK Member, you’ll: • Listen to episodes at your own pace (before they are launched publically) • Respond to 7-multiple-choice questions related to your podcast experience for each episode • Preview supporting content and materials • Become part of our creative community network Your insights will help us shape future episodes.

    29분
  8. "In the Process of Making" - Episode 7: Alchemy

    1월 6일

    "In the Process of Making" - Episode 7: Alchemy

    Episode SEVEN marks the pivotal midpoint of the journey, revealing how Dave and Jon transformed their collection of random characters and content into the very podcast listeners are experiencing. Inspired by meta-fictional podcasts like "Appearances" and "Welcome to Night Vale," they explain the three-layered structure they've created. The episode weaves fact and fiction as they share the true history of their 30-year relationship, overlaid with a fabricated connection to the number seven that sets up the story world for the seven episodes to come. PLEASE CLICK ON THIS LINK TO RESPOND TO OUR 7 FEEDBACK QUESTIONS [If you submit a feedback form, you’ll become a member of our PREVIEW NETWORK and receive a link to the next episode prior to its public release. Your insights will help us shape future episodes.

    30분
  9. "In the Process of Making" - Episode 8: Moonlight

    2월 6일

    "In the Process of Making" - Episode 8: Moonlight

    Episode EIGHT plunges listeners into the creative wilderness of dead ends and breakthroughs as Dave reveals the frustrating months he spent trying to find a narrative framework for the sevenwell story-world. After hitting wall after wall in early 2022, Dave finally breaks through by embracing Alex Miller's wisdom about letting stories reveal themselves organically. PLEASE CLICK ON THIS LINK TO RESPOND TO OUR 7 FEEDBACK QUESTIONS [Once you have submitted your feedback form, you’ll automatically become a member of our PREVIEW NETWORK and receive a link to the next episode of the podcast] As a PREVIEW NETWORK Member, you’ll: • Listen to episodes at your own pace (before they are launched publically) • Respond to 7-multiple-choice questions related to your podcast experience for each episode • Preview supporting content and materials • Become part of our creative community network Your insights will help us shape future episodes.

    31분
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What happens when a theatre-maker and an opera singer throw caution to the wind to see what wonderlands might reveal themselves in a creative process fuelled by their never-say-die passion? "In The Process of Making" documents Dave and Jon’s 5-year journey as they stumble through brilliant insights and crushing doubts, unexpected breakthroughs and stubborn blockages — all the while remaining open and vulnerable to their exasperation and joy! It's a creative odyssey of unexpected twists and delightful surprises that takes us to the heart of what creativity looks and feels like …. the highs and lows; the dream and the nightmare.

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