21 episodes

Ex-Mormon siblings Brother Dan and Sister Lisa discuss Mormon culture, religiosity, atheism, comparing their experiences growing up in 'The One True Church' and leaving the old rules behind to search for a more fulfilling way of life.

Siblings in Zion Siblings in Zion

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Ex-Mormon siblings Brother Dan and Sister Lisa discuss Mormon culture, religiosity, atheism, comparing their experiences growing up in 'The One True Church' and leaving the old rules behind to search for a more fulfilling way of life.

    18: Choose Your Prophets Wisely

    18: Choose Your Prophets Wisely

    The siblings check in to share what they are grateful for, some very nice messages sent in by listeners, thoughts on the election, the NXIVM cult documentary series 'The Vow', fear of strangers, and the progress Lisa has made in her existential crisis by decreasing anger, increasing acceptance, and 'choosing new prophets'.
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    • 49 min
    17: The Denial of Death

    17: The Denial of Death

    The siblings discuss their reading of 'The Denial of Death' by Ernest Becker; how it contradicts their old Mormon understanding of an eternal self and how it informs the realistic understanding of the immediate, natural, fearful, fascinating, transient life in a human body.
    'This is the terror: to have emerged from nothing, to have a name, consciousness of self, deep inner feelings, an excruciating inner yearning for life and self-expression -- and with all this yet to die. What kind of deity would create such a complex and fancy worm food?'
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    • 1 hr
    16: We Have to Go Back!

    16: We Have to Go Back!

    The siblings finally return ... with no agenda but to catch up. What have they been doing instead of making new episodes?
    Answers include: watching the entire series of 'Lost', reading books like The Denial of Death, Mormonism Unvailed, and The Universal Christ (future episode material) ... experiencing multiple existential crises, dealing with family members learning of the show and completely butchering the message, dreading the upcoming election ... you know, basic stuff.
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    Richard Rohr on 'You Made it Weird with Pete Holmes' - http://youmadeitweird.nerdistind.libsynpro.com/richard-rohr-returns
    The Denial of Death - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Denial_of_Death
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    • 40 min
    15: Consciousness Cookies! Learning 21 Lessons for the 21st Century

    15: Consciousness Cookies! Learning 21 Lessons for the 21st Century

    The siblings discuss some of Sister Lisa’s favorite passages of ‘21 Lessons for the 21st Century’ by Yuval Noah Harari, author of ‘Sapiens’ and ‘Homo Deus’.
     
    Subjects covered include: Technology evolution and data privacy, the pursuit of happiness, globalization, immigration, ethics before the Bible, monotheism, racism, and intellectual honesty.
     
    ‘I gather together the different threads and take a more general look at life in an age of bewilderment, when the old stories have collapsed, and no new story has emerged so far to replace them. Who are we? What should we do in life? What kinds of skills do we need? Given everything we know and don’t know about science, about God, about politics and about religion – what can we say about the meaning of life today?’ …
     
    ... ‘That’s everything I care about right there. I was hooked. After leaving Mormonism, those are pretty much all your questions’ - Sister Lisa
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    More from Yuval Noah Harari – https://www.ynharari.com/
    ‘Sentient World Simulation’ episode from Everywhere You Go is Bullsh*t podcast – http://tiny.cc/eygsws
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    Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com
     

    • 58 min
    14: We're all F**king Dead!

    14: We're all F**king Dead!

    They say the gospel is so simple that a child can understand it. Let us see how well Sister Lisa, former missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, having ingested marijuana drugs into her brains, can explain the timeline of events once Jesus returns and the real party begins: Resurrection!!
     
    After attempting to lay out the trajectory of our promised life after this life from the Mormon perspective, the siblings take the opportunity to bear their testimonies of dropping the denial of death and the liberty in accepting the finite existence we have.
     
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    Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com

    • 53 min
    13: Prelude to the Afterlife

    13: Prelude to the Afterlife

    With all this scariness in our current earthly existence, death might be on the brain a little more lately. But don't worry, you will live again! Also, you already lived before!
     
    In this episode, the siblings intend to speak on the concept of resurrection and the Mormon teachings about it but end up being sidetracked into first talking about the unique take on what happened before we were born (Premortal Life) and what happens while we wait to finally get our body back (Spirit Prison and Spirit Paradise).
     
    Along the way they touch on Adam & Eve in the garden, who were definitely real people in a real place, the Plan of Salvation and how participation in it is essentially a spiritual suicide, Judgement Day, ‘outer darkness’, and what it could possibly mean to have a ‘perfect body’.
     
    Sister Lisa also shares an inspirational message from Tanner of Zelph on the Shelf about considering mortality after letting go of faith, and how she now views mortal life and conscious experience without religious prescription.
     
    Join us next time for Part 2, when we’re all finally dead! YAYYYY!
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    Facebook: facebook.com/siblingsinzion
    Instagram: instagram.com/siblingsinzion
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    YouTube: tiny.cc/SIZYouTube
    Theme Music: 'The Falls' by Umbrellaman - http://umbrellamanband.com
     

    • 49 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
11 Ratings

11 Ratings

Talkboy92 ,

more than mormonism

Great conversations between siblings about big picture stuff after leaving the prescription of the LDS version of Christianity. Really interesting. Looking forward to where it goes!

Buyer82 ,

Genuine take!

This discussion needs to happen, you both are very brave. Looking forward to more to come!

Drummerofmw ,

Great!

Very informative and awesome! Thanks for doing this, I appreciate it so much.

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