Crossed Channels with Tony Fletcher and Dan Epstein

A monthly podcast on which a Yank and a Brit clash and connect over music from both sides of "the pond".

Join music journalists/biographers/musicians/Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Brit) as they debate and discuss the different ways that certain major bands and artists from their respective homelands have been received on the other side of the pond. In the process, Dan and Tony compare and contrast their own experiences as obsessive music fans growing up in the US and the UK. tonyfletcher.substack.com

  1. FEB 12

    Dan and Tony Get Their Ya-Ya's Out

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit tonyfletcher.substack.com Welcome to the 25th episode of the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Limey) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond. Dan & Tony Get Their Ya-Ya’s Out is an equally lively continuation of Episode 24, Should I Stay (Home) or Should I Go (Out)? in which we abandoned our usual focus on a particular band or artist from the UK or USA to take on the wide-ranging topic of live albums — official and otherwise. During that previous episode, Tony gave Dan hell for no longer going to see live shows, and Dan pointed out that his hearing is a lot better than Tony’s. And after arguing the positives and negatives of continuing to go out or stay home in one’s later years, the pair got down to answering some of the questions they had set each other: about the first live album they’d heard, or the favourite live cassette/bootleg of their formative years. Then they took a break and figured to stretch the conversation into two halves. And so, Episode 25 continues down this path of lively pub banter, the kind of “best” and “worst” lists that can be toxic on social media but are enormous fun when you’re sitting opposite one of your good friends and debating in real time. The questions we set each other and which we dig into on this episode include: * The best or most memorable bootleg you ever made yourself at a show. * Your favourite live album by anyone, for any reason. * The worst live album by an act that should have known better. * The live show you attended that you most wish had been recorded. * The live album that makes you most wish you could have attended. Does Tony mention every act he’s ever written a book about? Does Dan surprise Tony by referencing albums Tony has never heard of? Does Neil Diamond get a mention or was it edited out for reasons of length? And does Tony succeed in dragging Dan to an actual gig after they finish recording… or do they just go down the road for their usual post-pod meal at Kingston’s Yum Yum? (Hint: we record on a Monday.) Bottom line: we love doing this show, we have a lot more fun for doing it in person, and we know that this shows in the energy of the conversation. (We thank you for your feedback!) But also, we know our music – sort of! – and we love sharing our passion for it with you. So, if you are not yet a paid subscriber to either of our Substacks, maybe you should be, because, as always, the CROSSED CHANNELS episode is only available in full to paid subscribers of Jagged Time Lapse and/or Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith, though a short preview of the episode is available above for all to listen to. To hear this complete episode, along with all of our previous complete CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them! You not only get Crossed Channels every month, but other exclusive posts from each of us, and access to all the archives all the time. Plus, you allow us to afford that post-pod meal at Yum Yum! Remember, Crossed Channels, unlike most podcasts, does not take ads: we value your intelligence too highly. And if you are already a paid subscriber to either of our Substacks, may we firstly say Thank You! And may we follow that up by encouraging you to get your money’s worth and download the podcast, or stream it on your preferred podcast app – info on how to do so is on the right-hand sidebar of this page on the web. We also welcome (paid subscribers’) comments. What is YOUR fave live album, by anyone, for any reason? What live show did YOU attend that you most wish had been recorded? And what do YOU consider the worst live album by any act that should have known better? Thanks so much for being part of our journey. If these “show notes” indicate a different writing style than usual, then you are paying attention. Dan normally writes them, but had some pressing personal matters this week, and Tony stepped in to scatter tradition to the wind. Episode 26 will feature Dan and Tony debating the British pop stardom and belated American fame for The Sweet. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

    11 min
  2. JAN 22

    Should I Stay (Home) or Should I Go (Out)?

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit tonyfletcher.substack.com Happy New Year everyone, and welcome to the 24th (and what we think may be the liveliest-ever) episode of the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Brit) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond. And on this episode, we do indeed clash… though we also connect, as well! We thought we’d change things up a bit this time. Whereas we usually focus on a single band or artist from the UK or USA for each episode, this episode finds us widening the scope to take on the topic of live albums — officially released and otherwise. So for this episode of CROSSED CHANNELS, we dig into a deep discussion of some of our favorite live albums — and not just our “desert island” selections, but the live albums that introduced us to the concept in the first place, concert recordings that enriched our appreciation of certain bands, bootlegs that we religiously listened to during our teens, and live albums we wish we could have been present for the recording of. We also get into some of the worst live albums ever recorded by some of our favorite artists, all-time favorite concerts we’ve attended, and amazing shows we’ve witnessed that really should have been recorded for posterity. Place your bets now on how many times Tony mentions The Who in this episode, or how long it takes for Dan to bring up The Kinks… As always, this CROSSED CHANNELS episode is only available in full to paid subscribers of Jagged Time Lapse and/or Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith, though a short preview of the episode is available above for all to listen to. To hear this complete episode, along with all of our previous complete CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them!

    16 min
  3. 12/11/2025

    Buzzcocks Love You More

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit tonyfletcher.substack.com Welcome to the 23rd episode of the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Brit) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond. This episode was inspired by Tony’s recent five-part exploration on his Substack about how Buzzcocks invented pop-punk in 1978 with an incredible run of singles — and how his early-teen self reacted to each new one (and its B-side) as it was released. Dan, on the other hand, discovered the band like most American Buzzcocks fans did back then: via Singles Going Steady, a compilation released in September 1979 by IRS Records, which was the first Buzzcocks record to come out in the US. Side One of the album presented the band’s first eight A-Sides in chronological order, with their first eight B-sides arranged similarly on Side Two. We talk about Shelley’s knack for writing about romance from a gender-neutral perspective, the production genius of Martin Rushent, the underrated brilliance of the band’s guitar arrangements, how Steve Diggle was the “Dave Davies” of the band, and our favorite B-sides from that original batch of groundbreaking Buzzcocks singles. As always, this full CROSSED CHANNELS episode is only available to paid subscribers of Jagged Time Lapse and/or Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith, though a short preview of the episode is available above for all to listen to. To hear this episode in full, along with all of our previous CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them! Theme music: "Put It Down" by The Dear Boys. https://thedearboys.bandcamp.com/album/put-it-down

    13 min
  4. 11/12/2025

    Go All The Way: Picking The Finest Raspberries

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit tonyfletcher.substack.com Welcome to the 22nd episode of the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Brit) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond. This time out, we dig into a big bowl of Raspberries, the legendary American power pop band of the early 1970s. Formed in Cleveland, Ohio from the ashes of popular local groups The Choir and Cyrus Erie, the Raspberries were fronted by guitarist/pianist Eric Carmen, and also featured lead guitarist Wally Bryson, bassist Dave Smalley and drummer Jim Bonfanti. Between 1972 and 1974, the Raspberries enjoyed four Top 40 Billboard hits (including 1972’s “Go All The Way,” which went, er, all the way up to #5) and their riffy, hook-filled, arena-rocking brand of power pop would go on to influence several generations of pop-minded musicians — some of whom can be heard testifying to the importance of the band’s legacy on Play On: A Raspberries Tribute, the new 2-CD set released by Think Like A Key Music. But while the Raspberries were arguably the most commercially successful American power pop band of the 1970s, and their legion of fans included John Lennon, Bruce Springsteen and Tom Petty, they got a rough reception from US rock critics, many of whom derided their records for being too blatantly Beatles-esque. And the band, despite drawing heavily from British influences (especially The Who and Small Faces as well as the Fab Four), achieved little notice at all in the UK. In this episode, Dan makes a case for his twelve top Raspberries songs — three from each of their four studio albums — as he and Tony break down the (mostly) British influences that inspired their creation. As always, this full CROSSED CHANNELS episode is only available to paid subscribers of Jagged Time Lapse and/or Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith, though a short preview of the episode is available above for all to listen to. To hear this episode in full, along with all of our previous CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them!

    16 min
  5. 10/09/2025

    Keeping The Faith: Crossed Channels Goes Northern Soul

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit tonyfletcher.substack.com Welcome to the 21th episode of the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Brit) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond. This time out, we truly straddle the Atlantic with an energetic discussion of Northern Soul, the long-running British dance movement fired by the uptempo sounds of (mostly) obscure soul and R&B singles from American cities like Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia and Los Angeles. Growing out of the British mod scene and legendary 1960s venues like Manchester’s Twisted Wheel and Sheffield’s King Mojo, the Northern Soul scene exploded in the early 1970s, with thousands of young working-class people crowding hot spots like the Wigan Casino and Blackpool Mecca’s Highland Room to enjoy the social connection and euphoric uplift of dancing the night away to their favorite songs. These songs weren’t the pop hits of the day, however — Northern Soul DJs would typically spin older US soul and R&B songs, many of which bore a decided Motown influence, and most of which had never charted or even been released in the UK. Though both the Casino and the Mecca had shut their doors by 1981, the Northern Soul scene continued to morph and grow, with its music influencing a number of British artists of the 1980s, including Dexys Midnight Runners, The Jam, Orange Juice and Soft Cell. Indeed, the Northern Soul scene grooves on to this day, with young and old devotees alike still “keeping the faith” at all-nighters modeled upon the original dancefloor gatherings of the 1960s and 70s. In this episode, Tony talks about his own experiences at Northern Soul nights from Southport to Hull to London. The movement has inspired several documentaries (including 1977’s Tony Palmer-directed Wigan Casino episode of the ITV series This England, which gave many British viewers their first real look at the Northern Soul scene), a feature film (2014’s Northern Soul, directed by Elaine Constantine), numerous books, and countless compilations of Northern Soul dance favorites. Northern Soul is a deep, complex and fascinating subject, one with tendrils extending in myriad directions, and arguments over what constitutes “proper” Northern Soul sounds (and fashions, dance moves, etc.) rage to this day in every corner of the internet. We make no claims to being Northern Soul experts, and this discussion is in no way intended as a “definitive” summation of the movement. We both love the music, however — so much so that we talk about its genesis for best part of a full hour, after which we conclude the episode by pulling out and discussing 10 of our favorite Northern Soul singles, which our paid subscribers can here on our special YouTube playlist, linked below the fold. (And while it doesn’t exactly qualify as Northern Soul, there’s an undeniably soulful element to our podcast’s current theme song, “Put It Down” by Tony’s transatlantic band THE DEAR BOYS. Released last month, you can find it on Bandcamp and all good streaming services.) As always, this full CROSSED CHANNELS episode is only available to paid subscribers of Jagged Time Lapse and/or Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith, though a short preview of the episode is available above for all to listen to. To hear this episode in full, along with all of our previous CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them! CROSSED CHANNELS can be heard both here on our Substack pages or via your preferred podcast app: just follow the links and instructions on the right. In addition to the podcast, Jagged Time Lapse and Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith regularly serve up previously unpublished interviews and other exclusive content to our paid subscribers. To those of you who have already shelled out for paid subscriptions to either or both Substacks, we’d like to express our deepest thanks for continuing to support our work. And if you have some favorite Northern Soul songs or memories that you’d like to share with us, please feel free to do so in the Comments section below!

    11 min
  6. 09/11/2025

    From Asbury to Hammersmith: How "The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle" Set the Stage for Bruce Springsteen's Crossed Channels Breakthrough

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit tonyfletcher.substack.com Welcome to the 20th episode of the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Brit) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond. For our big 2-0, we’re back on American shores — the Jersey Shore, to be specific. Bruce Springsteen is someone whose work is extremely dear to both of us — though because of our slight difference in age and the fact that we grew up on opposite sides of the Atlantic, our experiences were quite different when it came to discovering his music. We compare notes on the “origin stories” of our Bruce fandom in this episode, while also taking a closer look at a Springsteen album that didn’t chart in either the US or the UK at the time of its release: 1973’s The Wild, The Innocent and The E Street Shuffle. Released just 11 months after the acoustic-oriented Greetings from Asbury Park, N.J., Springsteen’s ambitious second album found him plugging in his electric guitar to record seven songs — four of which ran seven minutes or longer — with a full band, while drawing upon a much wider range of musical styles and influences. The Wild, The Innocent and The E Street Shuffle was an incredibly important stepping stone in Springsteen’s career, once which put him and the E Street Band on course to create Born to Run and to play their first shows in the UK and Europe, including their now-legendary appearance at London’s Hammersmith Odeon on November 18, 1975. We talk about that incredible performance in this episode, along with why Wild/Innocent is still such a compelling listen, Bruce’s knack for myth-making, the time Tony interviewed Bruce for his book with Eddie Floyd, Knock! Knock! Knock! on Wood: My Life in Soul, and a whole lot more! As always, this full CROSSED CHANNELS episode is only available to paid subscribers of Jagged Time Lapse and/or Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith, though a short preview of the episode is available for all to listen to. To hear this episode in full, along with all of our previous CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them! Music on this episode: "Put It Down" by The Dear Boys. More info at https://thedearboys.bandcamp.com/album/put-it-down

    12 min
  7. 08/14/2025

    The Who Take on US and Win, 1967-69

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit tonyfletcher.substack.com Welcome to the 19th episode of the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Brit) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond. After making an appearance in our previous episode on The Beach Boys and their influence upon the UK pop scene, The Who finally make their long-overdue appearance on this podcast. The band has loomed exceedingly large for both Dan and Tony — the latter of whom authored the best-selling biography Dear Boy: The Life of Keith Moon, published in the US as Moon: The Life and Death of a Rock Legend — and now they are about to embark on their North American Farewell Tour, a 17-date trek with stops at such massive venues as Boston’s Fenway Park, Chicago’s United Center and New York’s Madison Square Garden. But in this episode of CROSSED CHANNELS, we flash back to 1967, the year The Who played their first North American gigs. The band’s inaugural US performance took place on March 26, 1967, where they promoted “Happy Jack” — their first real US hit — with a brief but brutal set as one of a dozen or so attractions on Murray the K’s “Music in the Fifth Dimension” show at midtown Manhattan’s RKO Theater. Dan and Tony discuss how The Who’s burgeoning popularity in the US not only helped to keep the band afloat during this uncertain period, but also set the stage for their breakthrough 1969 album Tommy and the band’s legendary appearance at Woodstock. “If it wasn’t for America there would be no Who,” says Max Ker-Seymer, a friend of the podcast who has seen The Who in concert over a longer period than anyone still attending their shows, and we’re very much inclined to agree. As The Who’s 1967-1969 visits to North America also included such infamous incidents as Pete Townshend’s bad acid trip on the flight home from Monterey, Keith Moon’s raucous 21st birthday party at the Holiday Inn in Flint, Michigan, and the concert with The Doors at New York’s Singer Bowl that inspired Townshend to write “Sally Simpson,” there was no shortage of material for our esteemed hosts (and diehard Who fans) to touch upon; indeed, with the help of only a few pints, this nearly 90-minute episode could have easily stretched to nine hours. As always, this full CROSSED CHANNELS episode is only available to paid subscribers of Jagged Time Lapse and/or Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith, though a short preview of the episode is available above for all to listen to. To hear this episode in full, along with all of our previous CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them! CROSSED CHANNELS can be heard both here on our Substack pages or via your preferred podcast app: just follow the links and instructions on the right. In addition to the podcast, Jagged Time Lapse and Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith regularly serve up previously unpublished interviews and other exclusive content to our paid subscribers.

    12 min
  8. 07/10/2025

    Good ViBritons: How The Beach Boys Changed British Beat

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit tonyfletcher.substack.com Welcome to the 18th episode of the CROSSED CHANNELS podcast — a.k.a. the podcast in which music journalists/obsessives Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Brit) clash and connect over music from either side of the pond. The Beach Boys fit in quite nicely with our whole CROSSED CHANNELS concept, as they were a quintessentially American band that was both profoundly impacted by the British Invasion and hugely influential on a number of British artists. And when their immense US popularity began to decline as Brian moved the band’s music away from surfing and hot rod songs, The Beach Boys experienced a new wave of popularity in the UK — a wave set in motion in May 1966, when The Who’s Keith Moon personally insisted that Beach Boy Bruce Johnston (then visiting London to promote the newly-released Pet Sounds) join him for an interview segment on ITV’s Ready Steady Go! Of course, The Beatles also show up in this CROSSED CHANNELS episode. The competition between Britain’s biggest import and America’s biggest homegrown band produced incredible music from both camps, at least before the May 1967 release of Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band caused Brian Wilson to scrap The Beach Boys’ ambitious Smile project. But even with Brian on the ropes, his band’s post-Pet Sounds output continued to sell remarkably well in the UK, where the influence of Pet Sounds itself also manifested in Billy Nicholls’ remarkable 1968 album Would You Believe, which Dan recently wrote about at his Substack: As always, this full CROSSED CHANNELS episode is only available to paid subscribers of Jagged Time Lapse and/or Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith, though a short preview of the episode is available above for all to listen to. To hear this episode in full, along with all of our previous CROSSED CHANNELS episodes, just sign up for a paid subscription to one of our Substacks — or, better yet, sign up for both of them! CROSSED CHANNELS can be heard both here on our Substack pages or via your preferred podcast app: just follow the links and instructions on the right. In addition to the podcast, Jagged Time Lapse and Tony Fletcher, Wordsmith regularly serve up previously unpublished interviews and other exclusive content to our paid subscribers.

    9 min

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Join music journalists/biographers/musicians/Dan Epstein (the Yank) and Tony Fletcher (the Brit) as they debate and discuss the different ways that certain major bands and artists from their respective homelands have been received on the other side of the pond. In the process, Dan and Tony compare and contrast their own experiences as obsessive music fans growing up in the US and the UK. tonyfletcher.substack.com