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"Small Talk Window" is where host Brent Skinner and his guest have a small window of time to dispense with the small talk as quickly as possible and settle into a meaningful conversation related to the world of work.

  1. Risk Mitigation in Hiring Isn't Just for Pre-Hire Anymore, with Ben Mones, Founder and CEO of Fama

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    Risk Mitigation in Hiring Isn't Just for Pre-Hire Anymore, with Ben Mones, Founder and CEO of Fama

    My guest for this episode of the podcast is Ben Mones, founder and CEO of Fama. After he and I got past discussing what we feed our young children for breakfast, we left the virtual greenroom and started recording in earnest. Bad actors can do bad things while working at your company. That’s why hiring can’t just be about hiring people who can do the job. We need to hire people who will get the work done in a way that doesn’t negatively impact the organization once they join or even after they leave. Online screening can reveal deep behavioral intelligence about candidates like their Big 5 Traits without candidates having to do anything other than consent. And, it can also identify signs of misconduct in their online content, helping protect against things like violence, intolerance, and fraud -- much later, well past the time of hire. I really enjoyed this conversation with Ben, and so will you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  2. Embracing Uncertainty in the Growth Mindset to Improve Business Outcomes with Nikhil Arora, CEO of Epignosis

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    Embracing Uncertainty in the Growth Mindset to Improve Business Outcomes with Nikhil Arora, CEO of Epignosis

    Epignosis CEO Nikhil Arora has been a guest on the podcast previously. In that episode, we discussed the curious and undeniable benefits of unlearning when it comes to fostering an organization's learning culture. As for this episode, it's interesting. Having a growth mindset is important to a business and to individual contributors in the workforce. The most visceral objectives for each differ, of course. An employer needs to focus on business outcomes: increasing profits, improving EBITDA, ensuring its own perpetuity very much as a “going concern,” in the parlance of accounting. Meanwhile, employees need to invest in their professional development to maximize their value to the organization. The great thing about all this is that the latter’s improvement fuels the former’s success. What’s more, high-performing employees instinctually understand this individual imperative and the benefit it brings to the whole. Nikhil and I delve into how uncertainty in the growth mindset leads to better business outcomes, and faster. It's about creating a safe place for failure, one of life's greatest teachers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  3. Harnessing Community-Powered Hiring, with Summer Delaney, CEO and Founder of CollabWORK

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    Harnessing Community-Powered Hiring, with Summer Delaney, CEO and Founder of CollabWORK

    My guest for this episode of the podcast is Summer Delaney, who got her start in her career working for the iconic Katie Couric. Later, Summer founded CollabWORK, where she is CEO. Summer saw where recruiting had been for years and, with CollabWORK, disrupted things a bit. In many respects, recruiting today is still where it's been for a long time: with some evolution along the way, yes, a nevertheless elaborate system designed to approach finding talent with the conveniences of the online environment. In other words, it's been essentially just as recruiters approached it in the paleolithic era -- just kidding, the era predating the Internet. CollabWORK will integrate with an applicant tracking system. It plugs easily into the existing reality of recruiting today. At the same time, through community-powered hiring, CollabWORK reaches top talent in a way that other solutions won't. Through community-powered hiring, a hiring organization using CollabWORK can go to that coveted passive talent where they already spend their days -- behind the walled gardens of specialized online professional communities such as Slack and others. For more context, and to understand the ethos behind community-powered hiring, listen to my conversation with Summer. And, be sure to read this Open View Report on the topic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  4. A Swan Song to Transform Compliance Training, with John Hansen, CEO and Chairman of Atana

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    A Swan Song to Transform Compliance Training, with John Hansen, CEO and Chairman of Atana

    For this episode of "Small Talk Window," my guest is John Hansen, CEO and chairman of Atana. We talked about Atana's jam: transforming workplace learning into a tool for cultural and business impact. A long-time entrepreneur with an uber-interesting career in leading companies and other organizations in high technology and abutting areas, John tells me Atana is his "swan song," a notable final accomplishment ahead of retirement. Committed to creating workplaces where employees feel respected, engaged, and safe, he really wants to leave an impact on learning in the world of work. And I cannot help but believe that he will. Atana’s approach reimagines learning and development (L&D) as a strategic asset—delivering engaging, impactful content while uncovering employee insights to inform leadership decisions. John explains it much better than I do. Listen to this episode and find out for yourself. To say John's enthusiasm for learning is infectious is a wild understatement. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  5. Why Unlearning Is Important in Career Development with Nikhil Arora, CEO of Epignosis

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    Why Unlearning Is Important in Career Development with Nikhil Arora, CEO of Epignosis

    My guest for this episode of "Small Talk Window" is Nikhil Arora, CEO of Epignosis. A learning technology company, Epignosis is known best for TalentLMS. So, logically, Nikhil and I decided to talk about unlearning, instead.... Wait. It makes sense. Really, it does. You'd think that unlearning would be the opposite of learning. And, by definition, it is. But unlearning is, in fact, a part of learning — boom, there's that logic.... In the world of work, we must get good at unlearning as we embark upon upskilling and reskilling ourselves. When we unlearn, we dispense with adhering to ways we’ve always done things. In this way, unlearning enables us to get better at doing these same things in better ways. Unlearning also means to let go of the things we’ve learned and become very good at, but that may no longer be needed — something we all need to do as artificial intelligence continues to enter the workplace. Nikhil shares many insights related to all this during the 12 minutes we captured. By unlearning, we clear the mental white space to learn entirely new things to create future value, thus future-proofing our own livelihood as we enrich the lifeblood of organizational competitiveness. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  6. AI Dreams in Hiring with Mike Stafiej, CEO of ERIN

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    AI Dreams in Hiring with Mike Stafiej, CEO of ERIN

    From here on out, we're switching to the first person when it comes to descriptions here of the latest episodes of "Small Talk Window." It's more fun this way. Prompted by the seemingly breakneck pace of artificial intelligence's evolution, I found myself recently thinking anew about Robot Dreams, a compilation of short stories by the famous science fiction novelist Isaac Asimov. I must've still been in high school when I read that book. How the final novelette in that collection is a profound mid-20th century take on how we may eventually relate to AI is unrelated to this episode of the podcast, which features guest Mike Stafiej, CEO of ERIN, an employee referral and internal mobility platform. What's funny, however, is that Lucy, my dog sleeping behind the microphone, was having what seemed like a dream during the recording. Mike and I were so far down a rabbit hole on the topic of how to keep humans in hiring in the face of AI as we barrel into the future of work, that we both wondered whether Lucy's dream was a nightmare about AI. Of course it wasn't. Knowing Lucy, I suspect she was dreaming about a squirrel getting away. You'll hear Lucy dreaming around midway through this episode. And please do listen to this 16-minute conversation with Mike. With ERIN, he has a front-row seat to AI's impact on recruiting today and where things may go. (Hint: the humans in hiring are here to stay -- no, really.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  7. People Data Chaos: Impasse Along the Journey to the Future of Work, with Jeff Tremblay, Chief Technology Officer of The Cloud Connectors

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    People Data Chaos: Impasse Along the Journey to the Future of Work, with Jeff Tremblay, Chief Technology Officer of The Cloud Connectors

    Today marks the announcement of an agreement to merge between The Cloud Connectors, an integration-platform-as-a-service (iPaaS) in enterprise HR technology, and Joynd, a provider of HR technology integration solutions. In an on-demand webinar, members of TCC's and Joynd's leadership explain the merger's rationale and many benefits. And the news makes today's episode of "Small Talk Window" all the more special. Host Brent Skinner's guest is none other than TCC's chief technology officer — Jeff Tremblay. And a potentially brand-new industry buzzword emerged from their discussion: People Data Chaos — or PDC, for short. What is PDC? Depending on the complexity of an organization's HCM and HCM-adjacent tech stack, people data sprawls across multiple systems and applications -- sometimes, far more systems and applications than anyone would care to count. The many, many integrations holding all this together are flimsy. They break, and with ever increasing frequency as the tech stack grows. That is the very definition of people data in chaos. And, yet, vendors of technology for HCM continue to regale us with visions of a future of work. They promise exciting, fancy things like self-evolving workforce skills ontologies fusing with artificial intelligence, modern psychometrics and learning content and more to produce ever deeper, more insightful and accurate people analytics. It all sounds great. We'll never reach the future of work with PDC in the way. Listen in to hear Jeff and Brent discuss PDC and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  8. People Analytics: The Best Time to Start Is Now, With Ian Cook, Vice President of Product Management at Visier

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    People Analytics: The Best Time to Start Is Now, With Ian Cook, Vice President of Product Management at Visier

    For this episode of the "Small Talk Window" podcast, Ian Cook, vice president of product management at Visier, joined host Brent Skinner for an illuminating conversation. If you're in the profession of managing the employment of people, you've probably heard the mantra: advanced people analytics will help you finally get granular with your workforce to boost productivity and spark innovation, the lifeblood of competitiveness. And it's true. The newest stuff out there really works. It's understandable that people analytics may seem out of reach, however. All the administrative inefficiencies of untamed HR has a way of cascading throughout the enterprise (or small company) to lay bare a lack of maturity in human capital management. The circumstances are overwhelming. People analytics may seem like a luxury reserved for those who get their act together first. But it's unnecessary to be a well-oiled HCM machine to get started with people analytics now, not later. Ian and Brent explore the idea that businesses can get right down to it, right now, with people analytics no matter where they are with their sophistication -- or lack thereof -- in HCM. It is very rarely an either-or proposition. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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