Songs with Substance

with Reine Orelia
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Welcome to the Songs with Substance Podcast where I invite other artists to talk about how to stay sane & make meaningful work as an artist in a rapidly evolving world.

Episodes

  1. Art vs Capitalism: How to monetize your art without compromising on its authenticity | Conor Nickerson

    06/23/2024

    Art vs Capitalism: How to monetize your art without compromising on its authenticity | Conor Nickerson

    Hi and welcome back to the Songs with Substance podcast. I recently got to speak with Montreal-based artist, Conor Nickerson, a multi-facetted creative working in music, film, photography and graphic design. We spoke about the pressure to specialize in one field despite have multiple interests, the challenge of monetizing your art without losing your passion, tackling the fear of being seen, wrestling with social media burnout and much more. Find the chapters that most peak your interest in the chapters below: 00:00:00: Intro 00:02:57 - About Conor, his art forms & Montreal as a hub for artists 00:05:10 - How to navigate having “too many” passions as a creative 00:13:57 - Do you have to “pick a lane” to make money? 00:16:57 - We’re all tired of social media 00:27:14 - Is authentic marketing possible on social media? 00:31:51 - Can introverts succeed in music today? 00:34:44 - The “1000 super-fan” economic theory & the value of creating small tribes online 00:40:34 - Art & capitalism: Do metrics matter? 00:44:56 - Performing vs writing: must we do both to be legitimate artists? 00:52:54 - Tackling the fear of being seen 00:55:34 - Is it your intuition or a trauma response? 00:59:46 - Would your art change if likes, views & streams weren’t publicly visible? 01:02:35 - Does living off your art blunt your passion? 01:08:59 - Do you have to quit your day job? 01:10:39 - Limiting beliefs around money as a creative 01:12:54 - How your self-image determines your future 01:17:41 - The trap of over-intellectualization & toxic self-help culture 01:27:47 - Conor’s new music! 01:40:11 - Conor’s social media links & where you can find him Conor’s music Conor’s IG Conor’s website All my links

    1h 43m
  2. The King of Misery: Finding Solace in Song with Daudi Matsiko

    02/18/2024

    The King of Misery: Finding Solace in Song with Daudi Matsiko

    In today’s episode, I got to speak to Daudi Matsiko, a British-Ugandan, indie-folk artist who just released a gorgeously introspective album called “King of Misery,” in which he explores his long and at times arduous mental health journey. ⏳Chapters⏳ 00:00:00 Intro 00:00:48 What does Daudi want to make you feel through his music 00:04:32 What it takes to become a prolific songwriter 00:08:07 The trouble of taking yourself too seriously as an Artist 00:13:36 How Daudi’s depression inspired his latest album 00:19:55 Should an Artist make art for other people, or for themselves? 00:25:29 Dad’s mental health journey 00:40:52 Releasing a new album under Daudi’s own label Daudi’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/daudi/ Daudi’s Bandcamp: https://hellodaudi.bandcamp.com/ More from me: https://linktr.ee/reinecramer

    46 min
  3. Overcoming Addiction & Embracing Humility as an Independent Musician | Booster Fawn

    01/15/2024

    Overcoming Addiction & Embracing Humility as an Independent Musician | Booster Fawn

    Welcome to the Songs with Substance Podcast where I speak to introspective indie artists about their experience staying mentally healthy as they navigate the music industry. In today’s episode I spoke to Josh from Booster Fawn, an alt-rock band based in Montreal. We spoke about Josh’s positive journey to sobriety, as depicted in his latest album ‘Dreams made of Snowflakes’. TW: Please be advised that this episode touches on subjects like addiction and suicide. Perhaps this is one to skip over if these are sensitive subjects for you. ⏳CHAPTERS⏳ 00:00 Intro 01:03 Josh’s musical background 01:50 Why the name Booster Fawn 04:08 How they’re bringing nature back to civilisation 06:36 Being authentic but having a business mindset 07:08 Josh’s positive journey to sobriety 11:09 Songwriting before & after addiction 13:16 Spirituality after addiction 13:54 What helped Josh in his sobriety 16:33 Josh shares his rock bottom 20:57 How to make art without craving validation 24:42 How much ego is healthy for artists 26:44 Josh’s biggest learning curve in music marketing 30:19 Why Josh keeps going even when success feels out of reach 32:11 Success in music for Josh 36:13 What Josh wants his music to communicate to his audience 38:47 What’s next for Josh & where to find him Hear more from Josh: https://www.instagram.com/boosterfawn/ Hear more from Reine: https://linktr.ee/reinecramer

    43 min
  4. Why keep making music when the world is in despair | Nikolas L.B.

    01/13/2024

    Why keep making music when the world is in despair | Nikolas L.B.

    Happy new year everyone! Welcome back to the Songs with Substance podcast where I have existential conversations with introspective musicians. In this first episode of the year I spoke to Nikolas L.B, a Montreal-based artist. Check out the chapters below to get an overview of all the wonderful topics we covered around the music industry and the creative process. Here’s to a 2024 filled with deep chats 🥂 ⏳Chapters⏳ 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:55 - Discover Nikolas L.B’s music 🎵 00:02:25 - What makes the Montreal music scene so special 00:03:55 - How the pandemic affected our creativity 00:08:14 - Why make art when the world is in distress 00:13:53 - How should an artist relate to their ego 00:21:12 - Nik’s perception of music marketing, can marketing be mindful? 00:32:51 - The price you pay for commercializing your art 00:35:11 - How to make art for others without getting influenced by them 00:38:33 - Intentionality vs flow state, which is best? 00:43:00 - Is the music industry harder for artists today? 00:50:50 - Why release music when the industry is “oversaturated” 00:57:20 - Are we too *old* to find success in music? 01:05:24 - The trouble with having a scarcity mindset as an artist 01:17:53 - What’s next for Nik & where to find him 🔗 Links 🔗 Nikolas’s website - https://nikolaslb.com/ Nikolas’s IG - https://www.instagram.com/nikolas.l.b/ Nikolas’s Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/artist/5NWcTd6xSzxY6QnGevX5ER?si=6uDVINatRA2ETXP42hVvnQ  Reine’s website - https://linktr.ee/reinecramer Reine’s IG - https://www.instagram.com/reinecramer Reine’s Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/artist/5HtPBbG9Iwr9oBlvcpbNZD?si=2N4WJjYuSVG6UDVh3OGqoA  The Songs with Substance Playlist (featuring music from all guests) - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2148h2Fn8400mbS6paCNku?si=b0bac20effea4f50 #musicindustry #musicpodcast #indiemusic #musicdiscovery #introspection #analysis #ageism #oversaturation #ego #creativity #songwriting

    1h 20m
  5. Somatics & Staying Sane in the Music Industry | Sarah Rossy

    11/13/2023

    Somatics & Staying Sane in the Music Industry | Sarah Rossy

    Welcome to the Songs with Substance podcast where I speak with introspective artists about their experience in the music industry and their perspective on the creative process. In this episode I spoke to Sarah Rossy, a Montreal-based composer, producer, performer, educator and McGill University graduate whose music combines jazz with live-processed electronics. We spoke about how academia affects creativity, the importance of somatics when working in a creative field, the impact ageing has on women in the music industry & much more. ⏳ CHAPTERS⏳ 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:20 - About Sarah Rossy 00:02:46 - How academia affects creativity 00:04:14 - Art for emotional healing vs Art as a commodity 00:06:41 - Why Sarah turned away from band life & started her solo project 00:09:01 - The value of being a polymath 00:10:19 - Why Somatics is important for creatives 00:17:46 - Ancestral Trauma & psychosomatic symptoms 00:21:30 - Being a woman in the music industry 00:24:36 - How new generations are changing the industry 00:26:41 - How to make social media promotion sustainable 00:28:48 - Sarah’s biggest learning curve in commercializing her art 00:31:24 - Ageism in the music industry 00:39:11 - What does success in music look like for Sarah 00:47:03 - About Sarah’s new song “Hidden Heart” 00:51:36 - What’s next for Sarah & where to find her Follow Sarah: https://www.instagram.com/ara_ossy/ Follow Reine: https://www.instagram.com/reinecramer/ Listen to Hidden Heart: https://open.spotify.com/track/7mK54LyB8aATEAAc0XLpbS?si=c743725d5214426e #musicpodcast #indiemusic #musicinterview #somatics

    1h 1m
  6. Commercializing your Music in an Attention Economy | Pink Mario

    10/23/2023

    Commercializing your Music in an Attention Economy | Pink Mario

    Welcome to the Songs with Substance Podcast where I invite introspective musicians to skip the small talk and speak candidly about their work & how they experience the music industry. My mission is to help indie musicians feel inspired to create their version of success without compromising on their authenticity, and to introduce indie music-lovers to new up-and-coming artists. In this episode I interviewed ⁠Pink Mario⁠, a dream pop indie artist based in Berlin. He just released a single called ‘You Know Who to Call' ⁠in which he explores the value of human connection in our increasingly fast-paced and digitally governed lives. We spoke about his process in writing the song, as well as the relationship between boredom and creativity, how to have a healthy relationship with social media as an independent artist in an attention economy, what success in music even means today & the challenge of learning to commercialize your art. ⏳ Chapters ⏳ 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:25 Pink Mario’s songwriting process for his latest single 00:09:29 The relationship between boredom & creativity 00:11:62 What relationship should an artist have with social media? 00:15:11 Artificial validation & re-defining success in music 00:22:26 What if you don’t know who to call? 00:25:30 When did Pink Mario start taking music ‘seriously’? 00:27:57 The learning curve behind commercializing your art 00:37:23 Are there still winners & losers in the modern music industry? 00:40:41 What’s the difference between dreams & desperation 00:47:52 About Pink Mario’s music video 00:51:25 What’s next for Pink Mario 🔗 LINKS 🔗 Find Reine on Instagram Find Pink Mario on Instagram Stream “You Know Who to Call” Read Pink Mario’s Medium Article The team who helped Pink Mario with his music video: https://www.instagram.com/kevinpetersdp/ https://www.instagram.com/quantumera/

    53 min
  7. The Pitfalls of Secularism & why Songs need Substance | Man at Sea

    10/21/2023

    The Pitfalls of Secularism & why Songs need Substance | Man at Sea

    Welcome to Songs with Substance where I invite introspective musicians to skip the small talk and get existential. If you’re a sensitive, philosophically-oriented music-lover, this podcast is dedicated to you. In this first episode I interviewed ⁠Man at Sea⁠, a Bristol based singer-songwriter who takes inspiration from artists like Thom Yorke & Rufus Wainwright. He just released a single called '⁠Nothing Sacred' ⁠in which he explores the effects of living in a secularized culture, taking on the voice of someone in search for meaning, uncertain of what is worth worshipping. We got into a lengthy discussion about that in the second-half of the episode, after covering Man at Sea's musical background and discussing both our experiences in the music industry as two indie artists trying to market themselves the age of streaming and content creation. ⏳ TIME STAMPS ⏳ 00:00: Intro 01:10: Man at Sea’s musical background 06:26: writing melodies vs. writing lyrics 08:00: Man at Sea’s first songs & their impact 11:42: what does it mean to be successful in music? 18:17: who is Man at Sea’s music for? 21:01: what gives a song “substance”? 28:30: finding your voice as an artist 31:04: the challenges of self-marketing & content creation 37:27: can you still be a mysterious artist today? 41:20: how Man at Sea met his producer 46:15: ‘Nothing Sacred’: The Pitfalls of Secularism 50:00: human beings need meaning 53:07: talking about our spiritual practices 01:02:27: where does creativity really come from? 01:05:20: what’s next for Man at Sea? 01:07:14: getting creative with self-promotion 01:14:45: Conclusion 🔗 LINKS 🔗 Follow Reine @reinecramer Follow Man at Sea @manatsea.music Listen to Nothing Sacred

    1h 16m
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Welcome to the Songs with Substance Podcast where I invite other artists to talk about how to stay sane & make meaningful work as an artist in a rapidly evolving world.

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  • Creator
    with Reine Orelia
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2024
  • Episodes
    7
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © with Reine Orelia
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