Space in Between

Vesna Lakovic van Kempen

I’m Vesna—a Master in Education with over a decade of experience in coaching, mentoring, and leading groups. Space in Between is a podcast that questions the self-help script and dives into the messy stuff we usually avoid: cancel culture, toxic positivity, gaslighting, power, and emotional complexity. No quick fixes here—just real questions, sharp insight, and a bit of sarcasm. Bring your curiosity. Leave the performance at the door. Stay uncomfortable!

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  1. 2025. 06. 21.

    #010 Adultism | You'll understand when you are older @ Space in Between by Vesna Lakovic

    Unpacking Adultism: The Hidden Bias Against YouthIn this episode of Space in Between, host Vesna Lakovic van Kempen tackles the often-overlooked topic of Adultism—the belief that adults know best and young people must earn respect. Vesna examines how this bias dismisses the voices and contributions of younger generations, perpetuates control, and stifles societal progress. She urges listeners to challenge their own perspectives, encourage intergenerational dialogue, and remain open to the fresh insights younger generations bring.📌 New episodes every week.Subscribe + hit the bell so you don’t miss the next one! Where Vesna talks about the subtle forms of gaslighting in various areas of life.🧠 Podcast by Vesna Laković van KempenTrainer, educator, professional question-asker.✨ Ready to go deeper?🎧 Work 1:1 with Coach Vesna Lakovic van Kempen on TaskHuman: https://bujoo.me/vesnaTaskhuman🆓 New to TaskHuman? Download the app: https://taskhuman.com/download and use referral code andré104 to unlock access.📚 Explore Vesna’s online courses on Pluralsight: https://bujoo.me/pluralsight🌐 Learn more about our work: https://bujooeducation.com🧠 Book a free consult: https://bujoo.me/consult📲 Follow Vesna on Instagram: https://bujoo.me/vesna-instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn: https://bujoo.me/vesna-linkedin📩 Reach out via email: vesna@bujooeducation.com💬 And don’t forget—join the conversation below in the comments. We read every one.Thanks for listening—and see you in the Space in Between.

    14분

  2. 2025. 06. 04.

    #010 Adultism - You'll understand when you are older @ Space in Between by Vesna Lakovic

    Unpacking Adultism: The Hidden Bias Against YouthIn this episode of Space in Between, host Vesna Lakovic van Kempen tackles the often-overlooked topic of Adultism—the belief that adults know best and young people must earn respect. Vesna examines how this bias dismisses the voices and contributions of younger generations, perpetuates control, and stifles societal progress. She urges listeners to challenge their own perspectives, encourage intergenerational dialogue, and remain open to the fresh insights younger generations bring. Vesna also teases the next episode's focus on the subtle forms of gaslighting in various areas of life.📌 New episodes every week.Subscribe + hit the bell so you don’t miss the next one!🧠 Podcast by Vesna Laković van KempenTrainer, educator, professional question-asker.✨ Ready to go deeper?🎧 Work 1:1 with Coach Vesna Lakovic van Kempen on TaskHuman: https://bujoo.me/vesnaTaskhuman🆓 New to TaskHuman? Download the app: https://taskhuman.com/download and use referral code andré104 to unlock access.📚 Explore Vesna’s online courses on Pluralsight: https://bujoo.me/pluralsight🌐 Learn more about our work: https://bujooeducation.com🧠 Book a free consult: https://bujoo.me/consult📲 Follow Vesna on Instagram: https://bujoo.me/vesna-instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn: https://bujoo.me/vesna-linkedin📩 Reach out via email: vesna@bujooeducation.com💬 And don’t forget—join the conversation below in the comments. We read every one.Thanks for listening—and see you in the Space in Between.

    13분

  3. 2025. 05. 27.

    #009 Internalized Sexism | Support All Women… Just Not That One @ Space in Between by Vesna Lakovic

    In this episode of Space In Between, Vesna Lakovic van Kempen explores the subtle yet powerful ways internalized sexism shapes how women perceive—and often police—each other.From “she’s just a bit much” to “she’s not the marrying type,” Vesna unpacks how patriarchal beliefs are absorbed, softened, and passed on between women, often under the guise of concern, taste, or standards.She challenges the idea that empowerment only counts when it fits the mold and invites us to question the quiet judgments we carry about what a “good woman” should be.This episode is an invitation to move beyond comparison and gatekeeping—and into a deeper kind of solidarity.📌 New episodes every week.Subscribe + hit the bell so you don’t miss the next one: Adultism - How we unconsciously mirror the same power dynamics with young people that we challenge in the rest of society.🧠 Podcast by Vesna Laković van KempenTrainer, educator, professional question-asker.✨ Ready to go deeper?🎧 Work 1:1 with Coach Vesna Lakovic van Kempen on TaskHuman: https://bujoo.me/vesnaTaskhuman🆓 New to TaskHuman? Download the app: https://taskhuman.com/download and use referral code andré104 to unlock access.📚 Explore Vesna’s online courses on Pluralsight: https://bujoo.me/pluralsight🌐 Learn more about our work: https://bujooeducation.com🧠 Book a free consult: https://bujoo.me/consult📲 Follow Vesna on Instagram: https://bujoo.me/vesna-instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn: https://bujoo.me/vesna-linkedin📩 Reach out via email: vesna@bujooeducation.com💬 And don’t forget—join the conversation below in the comments. We read every one.Thanks for listening—and see you in the Space in Between.

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  4. 2025. 05. 21.

    E008 Mc Mindfulness | “Just Breathe” Isn’t Always the Answer @ Space in Between by Vesna Lakovic van Kempen

    In this episode of 'Space In Between,' Vesna Lakovic van Kempen delves into the complexities of modern mindfulness practices, highlighting how they've been commercialized into productivity hacks, dubbed 'Mac Mindfulness.' Through her experience as a certified mindfulness teacher, she explores the core purpose of mindfulness—attentive, non-judgmental presence—and critiques how it is often used to make us better at tolerating life's pressures without addressing systemic causes of stress.Let's emphasizes the need to integrate mindfulness with social awareness and collective responsibility, rather than mere personal relief, and foreshadows an upcoming discussion on internalized sexism.00:00 Introduction to Mindfulness as a Productivity Hack00:42 Welcome to the Podcast01:35 The Essence of Mindfulness02:52 The Commercialization of Mindfulness06:55 The Paradox of Mindfulness09:57 Mindfulness and Social Awareness13:36 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview📌 New episodes every week.Subscribe + hit the bell so you don’t miss the next one: Internalized Sexism—Support All Women… Just Not That One🧠 Podcast by Vesna Laković van KempenTrainer, educator, professional question-asker.✨ Ready to go deeper?🎧 Work 1:1 with Coach Vesna Lakovic van Kempen on TaskHuman: https://bujoo.me/vesnaTaskhuman🆓 New to TaskHuman? Download the app: https://taskhuman.com/download and use referral code andré104 to unlock access.📚 Explore Vesna’s online courses on Pluralsight: https://bujoo.me/pluralsight🌐 Learn more about our work: https://bujooeducation.com🧠 Book a free consult: https://bujoo.me/consult📲 Follow Vesna on Instagram: https://bujoo.me/vesna-instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn: https://bujoo.me/vesna-linkedin📩 Reach out via email: vesna@bujooeducation.com💬 And don’t forget—join the conversation below in the comments. We read every one.Thanks for listening—and see you in the Space in Between.

    15분

  5. 2025. 05. 13.

    E007 Wellness Obsession | The Best Version of Myself... or a Wellness Project @ Space in Between by Vesna Lakovic van Kempen

    Welcome back to Space in Between—the podcast for the stuff you feel but don’t always say out loud.In this episode, we’re talking about something that hits deep:👉 the pressure to constantly grow, heal, and become your “best self.”But what if all this self-optimization isn’t really healing?What if the obsession with self-improvement is just a shiny form of self-rejection?✨ From somatic workshops to trauma-informed everything, from journaling and breathwork to spiritual “productivity”—we unpack what happens when personal growth turns into a performance.When you stop being a person and start feeling like a project.🎧 Whether you’re in therapy, in burnout, or just tired of treating yourself like a never-ending fixer-upper—this one’s for you.🔍 In this episode:• What self-development gets wrong• How healing can become performative• The myth of the “best version of yourself”• Why constant growth might be keeping you from self-acceptance• And how to reclaim your humanity in a world that wants you optimized💬 Let’s pause the hustle. Let’s question the healing. Let’s talk about the space in between.📌 New episodes every week.Subscribe + hit the bell so you don’t miss the next one: McMindfulness—when inner peace becomes a product.🧠 Podcast by Vesna Laković van KempenTrainer, educator, professional question-asker.✨ Ready to go deeper?🎧 Work 1:1 with Coach Vesna Lakovic van Kempen on TaskHuman: https://bujoo.me/vesnaTaskhuman🆓 New to TaskHuman? Download the app: https://taskhuman.com/download and use referral code andré104 to unlock access.📚 Explore Vesna’s online courses on Pluralsight: https://bujoo.me/pluralsight🌐 Learn more about our work: https://bujooeducation.com🧠 Book a free consult: https://bujoo.me/consult📲 Follow Vesna on Instagram: https://bujoo.me/vesna-instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn: https://bujoo.me/vesna-linkedin📩 Reach out via email: vesna@bujooeducation.com💬 And don’t forget—join the conversation below in the comments. We read every one.Thanks for listening—and see you in the Space in Between.

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  6. 2025. 05. 07.

    E006 Performative vulnerability | More Tears—More Followers @ Space in Between by Vesna Lakovic van Kempen

    In this episode of Space in Between, we explore the blurry line between real vulnerability and performative emotion. What does it mean to be truly open—and what happens when our most personal moments are curated for clicks? From crying on camera to "raw" captions that feel a little too polished, Vesna dives into why vulnerability has become a performance—and what we lose when we trade honesty for attention.This one’s for anyone who’s ever posted something “real”... and then wondered why it didn’t quite feel honest.🎧 Let’s talk about the difference between sharing and performing.✨ Ready to go deeper?🎧 Work 1:1 with Coach Vesna Lakovic van Kempen on TaskHuman: https://bujoo.me/vesnaTaskhuman🆓 New to TaskHuman? Download the app: https://taskhuman.com/download and use referral code andré104 to unlock access.📚 Explore Vesna’s online courses on Pluralsight: https://bujoo.me/pluralsight🌐 Learn more about our work: https://bujooeducation.com🧠 Book a free consult: https://bujoo.me/consult📲 Follow Vesna on Instagram: https://bujoo.me/vesna-instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn: https://bujoo.me/vesna-linkedin📩 Reach out via email: vesna@bujooeducation.com💬 And don’t forget—join the conversation below in the comments. We read every one.Thanks for listening—and see you in the Space in Between.

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  7. 2025. 04. 29.

    E005 Therapy Speak | Therapy words. Instagram wisdom. Zero self-awareness @ Space in Between by Vesna Lakovic van Kempen

    We need to talk.Because somewhere between “I’m setting a boundary” and “I don’t have the capacity for this,” healing language turned into something else.In this episode of Space in Between, we dig into how therapy-speak—once born in safe spaces and healing circles—has become a kind of emotional armor.A performance. A way to avoid responsibility, shut down discomfort, and still sound emotionally evolved while doing it.We explore: – when therapy language connects vs. when it distances – why “protecting your peace” sometimes just means ghosting people you’re scared to confront – and how self-awareness stopped being a process and became a trendThis isn’t about judging people who use this language.I’ve used it too.It’s about asking: am I using these words to get closer to others—or to stay in control?If this episode made you pause—great.If it made you uncomfortable—even better.🎙 Listen. Reflect. Share. Stay uncomfortable.00:00 Introduction: The Performance of Emotional Awareness00:34 Welcome to 'Space in Between'02:00 The Rise of Therapy Speak04:19 When Healing Becomes Aesthetic07:09 The Misuse of Therapy Language10:43 Staying Honest and Humble in Healing12:13 Conclusion: Real Growth vs. Performative Healing✨ Ready to go deeper?🎧 Work 1:1 with Coach Vesna Lakovic van Kempen on TaskHuman: https://bujoo.me/vesnaTaskhuman🆓 New to TaskHuman? Download the app: https://taskhuman.com/download and use referral code andré104 to unlock access.📚 Explore Vesna’s online courses on Pluralsight: https://bujoo.me/pluralsight🌐 Learn more about our work: https://bujooeducation.com🧠 Book a free consult: https://bujoo.me/consult📲 Follow Vesna on Instagram: https://bujoo.me/vesna-instagram💼 Connect on LinkedIn: https://bujoo.me/vesna-linkedin📩 Reach out via email: vesna@bujooeducation.com💬 And don’t forget—join the conversation below in the comments. We read every one.Thanks for listening—and see you in the Space in Between.

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  8. 2025. 04. 23.

    E004 Unconscious Bias | “I Would Never Judge” …Except You Just Did @ Space in Between by Vesna Lakovic van Kempen

    We all have unconscious bias.Even the “good ones.” The educated, the mindful, the inclusive.In this episode of Space in Between, Vesna unpacks the invisible scripts running in the background—shaping who we trust, who we doubt, and who we silently judge. From “Wow, you’re so articulate” to “Wait… you’re the boss?”—these micro-moments say more than we think.They come from somewhere deeper. 🎙 Let’s talk about what lives under the surface.The assumptions we didn’t choose, but still carry.This isn’t about blame—it’s about awareness. And it starts with one question: What’s the story you’ve been telling yourself… without even realizing it? ✨ Ready to go deeper? 🎧 Work 1:1 with Coach Vesna Lakovic van Kempen on TaskHuman: https://bujoo.me/vesnaTaskhuman 🆓 New to TaskHuman? Download the app: https://taskhuman.com/download and use referral code andré104 to unlock access. 📚 Explore Vesna’s online courses on Pluralsight: https://bujoo.me/pluralsight🌐 Learn more about our work: https://bujooeducation.com 🧠 Book a free consult: https://bujoo.me/consult 📲 Follow Vesna on Instagram: https://bujoo.me/vesna-instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn: https://bujoo.me/vesna-linkedin 📩 Reach out via email: vesna@bujooeducation.com 💬 And don’t forget—join the conversation below in the comments. We read every one.Thanks for listening—and see you in the Space in Between.

    13분

  9. 2025. 04. 15.

    E003 Microaggressions | “Just joking”—Sure you are @ Space in Between by Vesna Lakovic van Kempen

    “Relax, it was just a joke.” “Wow, bold haircut…” “You’re too pretty to be that smart.” In this episode of Space in Between, we’re talking about microaggressions—the subtle digs, passive-aggressive compliments, and “harmless jokes” that actually hit hard. They’re not always meant to hurt—but they still do.They show up at work, in friendships, in families, and especially in some cultures (like mine). We’ll explore: What microaggressions really are (and aren’t)Why “just joking” often hides discomfort or insecurityHow they’re tied to unconscious biasWhat it feels like to be on the receiving end—again and againAnd how to call it out without starting a war (unless you want to) This isn’t about canceling people. It’s about waking up to the little ways we shrink each other—and deciding not to keep playing along. 🎧 Listen now and let’s get a little uncomfortable—because that’s where real growth starts. Don’t forget to like, comment, share, and subscribe. 📢 Tag someone who always says they’re “just joking.” ✨ Ready to go deeper? 🎧 Work 1:1 with Coach Vesna Lakovic van Kempen on TaskHuman: https://bujoo.me/vesnaTaskhuman🆓 New to TaskHuman? Download the app: https://taskhuman.com/download and use referral code andré104 to unlock access. 📚 Explore Vesna’s online courses on Pluralsight: https://bujoo.me/pluralsight 🌐 Learn more about our work: https://bujooeducation.com 🧠 Book a free consult: https://bujoo.me/consult 📲 Follow Vesna on Instagram: https://bujoo.me/vesna-instagram 💼 Connect on LinkedIn: https://bujoo.me/vesna-linkedin 📩 Reach out via email: vesna@bujooeducation.com 💬 And don’t forget—join the conversation below in the comments. We read every one.Thanks for listening—and see you in the Space in Between.

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  10. 2025. 04. 08.

    E002 Cancel Culture | Growth? Too Slow—Let’s Just Cancel Instead @ Space in Between by Vesna Lakovic van Kempen

    Welcome back to Space in Between - a podcast for the honest, the messy, and the uncomfortable questions we don’t usually ask out loud. In this episode, we dive into the messy world of cancel culture. Is it justice? Is it shame? Or is it something more complex? We unpack what canceling really means, why it feels so powerful, and what it might be hiding underneath. If spiritual bypassing was about avoiding hard emotions, this is the flip side- when emotions erupt into public shaming. From moral elevation to mob justice, we explore the space between harm and healing, call-outs and call-ins, performance and real accountability.  Listen in, stay curious, and maybe-stay a little uncomfortable.  Don’t forget to subscribe & share with someone who’s done with performative growth. #CancelCulture #Accountability #SpaceInBetween #Podcast #Vesna #SocialDynamics #SpiritualBypassing #CourageousConversations

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  11. 2025. 04. 04.

    E001 Spiritual Bypassing | Love & Light—Until It’s Not @ Space in Between by Vesna Lakovic van Kempen

    Welcome to Space in Between—a podcast where we stop performing, start questioning, and make room for the messy middle.I’m Vesna. And no, I’m not here to fix you. I’m here to ask the uncomfortable questions we usually avoid.In this first episode, we’re going in—on spiritual bypassing.You know the drill:💬 “Everything happens for a reason.”💬 “Just raise your vibration.”💬 “Pain is just an illusion.”Sounds comforting—until it isn’t.We’ll talk about: • How spiritual language can gaslight you out of your own emotions • The fine line between personal responsibility and systemic gaslighting • Why “love & light” isn’t always loving or light • How spiritual bypassing props up systems of inequality and shuts down real healing • And why some of the most “evolved” folks might be the most emotionally avoidant👁️‍🗨️ If you’ve ever walked out of a breathwork class more confused than centered—this one’s for you.💣 If you’ve been told your burnout is just “low vibration”—this one’s definitely for you.🎧 Subscribe, leave a comment, and tell me:What’s the most unhelpful “wisdom” someone’s thrown at you while you were struggling?We’re not here to “just stay positive.”We’re here to sit in the tension.🌀 This is Space in Between—where healing gets honest.

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I’m Vesna—a Master in Education with over a decade of experience in coaching, mentoring, and leading groups. Space in Between is a podcast that questions the self-help script and dives into the messy stuff we usually avoid: cancel culture, toxic positivity, gaslighting, power, and emotional complexity. No quick fixes here—just real questions, sharp insight, and a bit of sarcasm. Bring your curiosity. Leave the performance at the door. Stay uncomfortable!

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